86 [44MAG] Sisyphus_ii Members 124 posts Report post #1 Posted September 3, 2015 my DD:Hastsuharu is sunk cost -48450, i sink a BB:Wyoming and CR:Omaha and damage a 2nd BB:Wyoming and get + 51673 , final total 8937 (TG premium & 20% flag) else it would have been a -11,732 lost. Gee WG I know you got to make a ruble but the either the cost is too High or the reward is too low, And don't tell me about a VII DD vs IV ships, your MM put them together, why penalize me for too few opponents to match. Look I like the game, but your need for profit to show Mircosoft is getting in the way of a good game. As of now, if anybody asks me about getting WOWs, my opinion WOWs cost to much real money to play. WG does not need to worry about MS, windows 10 is not doing well, they need you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5 babylonstew Beta Testers 11 posts 2,739 battles Report post #2 Posted September 3, 2015 my DD:Hastsuharu is sunk cost -48450, i sink a BB:Wyoming and CR:Omaha and damage a 2nd BB:Wyoming and get + 51673 , final total 8937 (TG premium & 20% flag) else it would have been a -11,732 lost. Gee WG I know you got to make a ruble but the either the cost is too High or the reward is too low, And don't tell me about a VII DD vs IV ships, your MM put them together, why penalize me for too few opponents to match. Look I like the game, but your need for profit to show Mircosoft is getting in the way of a good game. As of now, if anybody asks me about getting WOWs, my opinion WOWs cost to much real money to play. WG does not need to worry about MS, windows 10 is not doing well, they need you. 2sounds like you were in co-op mode for such a small return, easy mode, low rewards 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,661 Macabe Alpha Tester, Members, In AlfaTesters, Beta Testers 12,413 posts Report post #3 Posted September 3, 2015 Play better, get more damage in -> Profit. Profits eventually decline to next to nothing after tier 8. At tier 9-10 you only profit IF you don't get sunk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
145 [KFL] darien22 Alpha Tester 1,307 posts 5,794 battles Report post #4 Posted September 3, 2015 I do fine and make about a solid 400k each match with about 200k in repairs if I die and 100k if I dont. It is hard to play at tier 9 and 10 and make money but at tier 7 you have to die without doing anything to lose money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
193 Hjamnr Beta Testers 725 posts 1,646 battles Report post #5 Posted September 3, 2015 2sounds like you were in co-op mode for such a small return, easy mode, low rewards I agree. OP, it sounds like you're playing coop mode, rather than random battles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
200 tortelloni Members 713 posts Report post #6 Posted September 3, 2015 Remember the old joke: "Doctor it hurts when I do this." Doctor says, "don't do that"??? If it hurts (your wallet, xp, etc.) then don't do that. Loads of posts about making income and free xp at tier V and under. Want us to make like the 3 Stooges and each take turns smacking you on the head till that idea takes root? Once again, higher levels are a money sink. Lower levels are for profit. A+B =potato for some people though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
175 [CJN] Doutech Beta Testers 719 posts 9,359 battles Report post #7 Posted September 3, 2015 Remember that you are charged for ammo in the repair cost (it literally says ammunition and then the price) so don't fire randomly and launch torps unnecessarily because you do have to pay for it. Make all your shots count. Also the service prices are intentional high so players don't always play in their high tier ships and have a reason to play the lower tiers (money makers) plus by being in high tiers it means you have developed enough skill and tactics to play smartly, deal a lot of damage, and survive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
79 ButtonsPushed Members 709 posts 6,496 battles Report post #8 Posted September 3, 2015 It gets much worse starting at T8. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
91 [WOLF1] BarbedWireRat [WOLF1] Beta Testers 1,144 posts 22,594 battles Report post #9 Posted September 3, 2015 (edited) Look I like the game, but your need for profit to show Mircosoft is getting in the way of a good game. As of now, if anybody asks me about getting WOWs, my opinion WOWs cost to much real money to play. WG does not need to worry about MS, windows 10 is not doing well, they need you. But that isnt really an honest assessment is it? I can understand that you dont like the game's economy because you would like to play higher tiers for free without having to mine credits at the middle tiers, but how about you let friends decide for themselves if they can enjoy the game. Tell them you don't like the game because it essentially requires play at the the mid tiers even after you have levelled up to tier 8. Even premium time alone is not enough to fund higher tiers without earning credits at middle tiers. Edited September 3, 2015 by BarbedWireRat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,407 Compassghost Supertest Coordinator 7,223 posts 14,450 battles Report post #10 Posted September 3, 2015 I usually make a profit at high tiers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,039 Skpstr Members 34,409 posts 10,768 battles Report post #11 Posted September 3, 2015 No offense OP, but when you 3 premium ships and free XP your way to the Shokaku, of course you're going to think you need money to play the game... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
384 BlackAngelCom Beta Testers 1,127 posts 5,907 battles Report post #12 Posted September 3, 2015 It's like WoT. Making money at Tier 8 requires good play and Tier 9 & 10 require good games you survive. The economy is somewhat tougher but the general scheme still applies. The game assumes that once you have a Tier 9 or 10 you aren't "grinding" anymore in that tech line, so it's not going to just toss you money and let you never do anything else. Keep some Tier IV-VI ships and run them for cash. You can usually play an entire co-op game in the time it takes for a bad PvP match where you died early to end. Tier IV carriers are essentially free money versus the AI; it's brainless but it does make cash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3 Firesparks Members 48 posts 702 battles Report post #13 Posted September 3, 2015 (edited) the high repair cost on the higher tier does make it difficult for the MM to find a balanced match at higher tier. I guess the assumption is that the population will be eventually be large enough to make the issue irrelevant, but that's a bit too optimistic. maybe t8,9,10 should have a one free repair per day to make the higher tier population a bit more active? Edited September 3, 2015 by Firesparks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,407 Compassghost Supertest Coordinator 7,223 posts 14,450 battles Report post #14 Posted September 3, 2015 No offense OP, but when you 3 premium ships and free XP your way to the Shokaku, of course you're going to think you need money to play the game... uh... I can free XP that high and I'm not delusional @.@ if you free XP farm you should naturally get lots of credits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,471 [SALVO] Dr_Venture Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 6,610 posts 7,430 battles Report post #15 Posted September 3, 2015 Use your 8 to get experience....use everything below it to make money. The game basically becomes pay to play (or work alot harder) after tier 8. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,039 Skpstr Members 34,409 posts 10,768 battles Report post #16 Posted September 3, 2015 (edited) uh... I can free XP that high and I'm not delusional @.@ if you free XP farm you should naturally get lots of credits. But how much money would it cost you? That was my point. He's doing things that cost him money, and if he's tellimg his friends it costs too much money to play the game, and they ask what he's spent, he's likely going to include the cost of those premium ships and XP conversion, making it seem like he "had" to spend that much money. Edited September 3, 2015 by Skpstr Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6 JP_Jones Beta Testers 14 posts 2,512 battles Report post #17 Posted September 3, 2015 (edited) I totally agree with the OP. Too expensive. People just won't play T8-T10. I'm playing maybe 2-3 games a day in my Fletcher and 0-1 in the Des Moines. Just not worth it when I can jump in a T5-T7 ship and have fun. Fun is what this game is supposed to be right? Edited September 3, 2015 by JP_Jones Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,407 Compassghost Supertest Coordinator 7,223 posts 14,450 battles Report post #18 Posted September 3, 2015 But how much money would it cost you? That was my point. He's doing things that cost him money, and if he's tellimg his friends it costs too much money to play the game, and they ask what he's spent, he's likely going to include the cost of those premium ships and XP conversion, making it seem like he "had" to spend that much money. what it costs me? A lot of potential beer and steak. Good thing I don't drink and have a budget for steak Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
59 [KSF] Helipro [KSF] Members 191 posts 11,667 battles Report post #19 Posted September 3, 2015 I have no trouble making money even in my Baltimore and I am an average player. Oh, and what is all this Microsoft talk? Why do they need to prove anything to Microsoft? Lastly, windows 10 is doing insanely well... It is the other "model" as in everyone other is they make is solid and an improved version of the previous sucky one. Vista -> win 7, win 8 -> win 10, and was it win me -> win xp? Its been a while. Win me/2000/nt were all a blur that I skipped over. None the less, windows 10 is pretty damn popular and pretty damn nice if you know how to mess with privacy settings lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
66 iagolan Members 646 posts 3,746 battles Report post #20 Posted September 3, 2015 Look I like the game, but your need for profit to show Mircosoft is getting in the way of a good game. As of now, if anybody asks me about getting WOWs, my opinion WOWs cost to much real money to play. WG does not need to worry about MS, windows 10 is not doing well, they need you. What does Microsoft have to with this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
91 [WOLF1] BarbedWireRat [WOLF1] Beta Testers 1,144 posts 22,594 battles Report post #21 Posted September 3, 2015 I have no trouble making money even in my Baltimore and I am an average player. I'm calling you out! If you are making good profit in your Baltimore you are being modest calling yourself an average player...or are underestimating your skill in this game compared to the current player base! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,186 BlazerSparta Members 11,026 posts 30,665 battles Report post #22 Posted September 4, 2015 I'm calling you out! If you are making good profit in your Baltimore you are being modest calling yourself an average player...or are underestimating your skill in this game compared to the current player base! Or he's running premium. Making credits with premium is stupid easy. I agree. OP, it sounds like you're playing coop mode, rather than random battles. That just pushes the issue up a few tiers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
180 GermanDragon Alpha Tester 455 posts Report post #23 Posted September 4, 2015 The game is designed to be profitable for players in the range of Tier 5 to Tier 8 (with premium) . This is really why you should pick your favorite ship you want to play not at Tier 10, but at most at Tier 8 as you will have to play at that level to earn in game cash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
