301 [H0PAS] TangledThorns Members 769 posts 16,193 battles Report post #1 Posted September 3, 2015 Shouldn't those that spent XP or free XP on the Minekaze's type 89 torps be compensated for losing them after the patch? Was there anything else that cost you your XP but was removed after the patch too? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
38 AegisFCS Beta Testers 180 posts 2,572 battles Report post #2 Posted September 3, 2015 It is beta get over it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
301 [H0PAS] TangledThorns Members 769 posts 16,193 battles Report post #3 Posted September 3, 2015 It is beta get over it. A beta that I put money into so... no. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
655 PelicanHazard Members 2,632 posts 10,276 battles Report post #4 Posted September 3, 2015 I'm going to go with 'no'. Balancing happens, it's a beta, and you didn't have to spend money to get the Type 89s, just time. (Unless you bought doubloons to convert some other ship's XP to free XP to get them, but that was your choice.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
104 Gaudy6523 Beta Testers 261 posts 1,889 battles Report post #5 Posted September 3, 2015 A beta that I put money into so... no. Fine, don't get over it. It's not like the devs care... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
786 Cragger Alpha Tester 1,730 posts 1,193 battles Report post #6 Posted September 3, 2015 The amount of people that see beta tagged on and accept it as a catch all excuse as well as defend it is both hilarious and sad how easy it is for marketing wank to guide the sheeple society. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
431 Razzopper In AlfaTesters 957 posts 3,049 battles Report post #7 Posted September 3, 2015 No. Free game. Ship happens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
431 Razzopper In AlfaTesters 957 posts 3,049 battles Report post #8 Posted September 3, 2015 A beta that I put money into so... no. I put money in my 401K and got screwed there. Can I have that back? 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
301 [H0PAS] TangledThorns Members 769 posts 16,193 battles Report post #9 Posted September 3, 2015 (edited) I'm going to go with 'no'. Balancing happens, it's a beta, and you didn't have to spend money to get the Type 89s, just time. (Unless you bought doubloons to convert some other ship's XP to free XP to get them, but that was your choice.) Yes, free XP which did cost $. I paid money for an item, lost it and expect compensation. Just like any other service or product. I put money in my 401K and got screwed there. Can I have that back? You clearly don't know the difference between a financial transaction and a 401K. Or perhaps you're just trolling. I'm certain its the latter. Edited September 3, 2015 by TangledThorns Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
370 MexicanPanda Beta Testers 1,529 posts 1,148 battles Report post #10 Posted September 3, 2015 That torpedoes cost how much xp? Less than 10k? I know that WG won't refund that. If you free xp'd them, that's your problem. If you don't like it, WG thanks you for your business and is so very sorry that you won't be spending more money on their game. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
188 [JEDI-] MikeCMyers Beta Testers 511 posts 5,283 battles Report post #11 Posted September 3, 2015 Yes, free XP which did cost $. I paid money for an item, lost it and expect compensation. Just like any other service or product. You clearly don't know the difference between a financial transaction and a 401K. Or perhaps you're just trolling. I'm certain its the latter. So your crying over a tiny amount of exp lost? Tier 5 mods cost little to nothing, get over it. It seems like you are simply whining just because you want to have something to whine about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
115 Jagdfan Beta Testers 583 posts 7,478 battles Report post #12 Posted September 3, 2015 I put money in my 401K and got screwed there. Can I have that back? LOL - So true. Not looking forward to the 3rd quarter report at the end of this month. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
655 PelicanHazard Members 2,632 posts 10,276 battles Report post #13 Posted September 3, 2015 Yes, free XP which did cost $. I paid money for an item, lost it and expect compensation. Just like any other service or product. No you didn't, you paid money for doubloons. You got them. Transaction complete. Everything after that from using the doubloons to convert XP and then researching the Type 89s was not what you paid money for and WG owes you nothing. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,275 [WOLF1] paradat Beta Testers 17,020 posts 24,964 battles Report post #14 Posted September 3, 2015 (edited) Check the terms of service Edited September 3, 2015 by paradat 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
386 [O7] Zampy Beta Testers 1,804 posts 12,331 battles Report post #15 Posted September 3, 2015 Read the TOS, they can change anything they want at any time and are not liable to refund you for anything. That given, there's no way you lost more than a few $'s worth of free XP if you used doubloons to convert. Things change, accept it or move on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
301 [H0PAS] TangledThorns Members 769 posts 16,193 battles Report post #16 Posted September 3, 2015 That torpedoes cost how much xp? Less than 10k? I know that WG won't refund that. If you free xp'd them, that's your problem. If you don't like it, WG thanks you for your business and is so very sorry that you won't be spending more money on their game. Weren't closed-beta players that spent doubloons compensated after the wipe? Shouldn't that apply to those in the beta as I consider this a partial wipe of paid for inventory? I'm surprised others here don't feel the same or am I the only one in this thread that paid for doubloons? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,705 redblurr Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters 4,719 posts Report post #17 Posted September 3, 2015 (edited) Weren't closed-beta players that spent doubloons compensated after the wipe? Shouldn't that apply to those in the beta as I consider this a partial wipe of paid for inventory? I'm surprised others here don't feel the same or am I the only one in this thread that paid for doubloons? Probably not going to happen, so let it go. Sorry. I put money in my 401K and got screwed there. Can I have that back? Edited September 3, 2015 by redblurr 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
605 Mourneblade Alpha Tester 2,410 posts 2,897 battles Report post #18 Posted September 3, 2015 (edited) Absolutely should be compensated...It is considered fraud if you spend money on digital goods and then they remove said goods without fair compensation... I cannot believe people think the OP, or anyone else, should have to suck this up....In WoT if they change something WG has always compensated the player...This should be no different. Put in a support ticket, if they do not compensate you the support ticket is evidence. Edited September 3, 2015 by Mourneblade 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
200 tortelloni Members 713 posts Report post #19 Posted September 3, 2015 (edited) You've all forgotten the 4 reverse decision requests per calendar year they offer. If it means so much to the OP let him use 1 of his 4 reversals. Edited September 3, 2015 by tortelloni Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
145 KurganSPK Beta Testers 901 posts 12,833 battles Report post #20 Posted September 3, 2015 10K torps were unlocked for free for me on Mustsucka, which I bought yesterday - so isn't that compensation? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
655 PelicanHazard Members 2,632 posts 10,276 battles Report post #21 Posted September 3, 2015 Absolutely should be compensated...It is considered fraud if you spend money on digital goods and then they remove said goods without fair compensation... Well then, good thing he spent money on doubloons and not on the Type 89 torps. He got the doubloons. There was no fraud involved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,593 [CRMSN] Cobraclutch Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 6,021 posts 4,739 battles Report post #22 Posted September 3, 2015 I do not know what everyone is smoking here. But every single time this has happened in WOT. I have been refunded my XP... This is OBT, not CBT. This is a soft release regardless of the BETA tags. And the OP is completely in the right in what he posted. He should definately get the XP back for that module. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
605 Mourneblade Alpha Tester 2,410 posts 2,897 battles Report post #23 Posted September 3, 2015 10K torps were unlocked for free for me on Mustsucka, which I bought yesterday - so isn't that compensation? This is a an awesome point.... that means that his experience has not been lost... absolute fair compensation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
511 TheGhostCat Beta Testers 840 posts 595 battles Report post #24 Posted September 3, 2015 LOL What WoT were you playing? I have lost track of the nerfs and changes in that game that they didn't give us anything for. What they do give us is an EULA and TOS which specifically states that this is an online game where basically everything is owned by WG and can be changed at any time. WG is pretty good when messing with premiums, but ... wow, they have nerfed many tanks in WoT without compensation. WoT compensated XP changes all the freaking time. ALL THE TIME. WG should've rolled the exp back to players on this one. It's not the end of the world, but the catch it in the 'it beta' excuse is juvenile Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,593 [CRMSN] Cobraclutch Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 6,021 posts 4,739 battles Report post #25 Posted September 3, 2015 10K torps were unlocked for free for me on Mustsucka, which I bought yesterday - so isn't that compensation? If this is true in the OP's situation than case closed.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
