4 Seek3Destroy Beta Testers 23 posts 4,351 battles Report post #1 Posted September 1, 2015 Was hoping the ship Michael Phelps could outswim would get some anti air capabilities... I love the ship hardcore as I feel unique when taking it out to sea but cmon, it needs a little AA! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
83 Rebeldad Beta Testers 436 posts 2,160 battles Report post #2 Posted September 1, 2015 I have to honestly agree to some point.. but my issue with the Arkansas is when in a fight I am not able to shoot the other ships due to range.. I would rather have some slight range buffs to the arkansas. I am usually 1.8 km short on range to be effective for shooting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
87 Oliver_Clothes_Offenbed Beta Testers 329 posts 4,774 battles Report post #3 Posted September 1, 2015 You are and you aren't. The ship has no AA and it's just the way it is. I guess it just adds to the uniqueness :/ The fully-upgraded Wyoming has AA. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4 Seek3Destroy Beta Testers 23 posts 4,351 battles Report post #4 Posted September 1, 2015 I guess I need to do a little research on the ships history. Planes probably weren't a big issue in the time frame it was first in service.. Makes sense in that aspect, unfortunately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
90 GulfStorm Beta Testers 323 posts 3,583 battles Report post #5 Posted September 1, 2015 Nope, not even a lousy Hotchkiss woodpecker to spit back at them 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
90 GulfStorm Beta Testers 323 posts 3,583 battles Report post #6 Posted September 1, 2015 I guess I need to do a little research on the ships history. Planes probably weren't a big issue in the time frame it was first in service.. Makes sense in that aspect, unfortunately. Don't bother. WG isn't terribly interested in things like history. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
35 [ERN] NightmareDancer Beta Testers 193 posts 2,327 battles Report post #7 Posted September 1, 2015 (edited) if it was more of a upgraded Wyoming it wouldnt be such a bad ship. im currently debating on selling the thing unless they upgrade it Edited September 1, 2015 by NightmareDancer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
432 [NBNG] JSFWRX85 Beta Testers 1,660 posts 5,014 battles Report post #8 Posted September 1, 2015 its a reward ship that only BETA testers are going to get, it will never be on sale. No new players will ever get it. You dont have to play it. Its a gift as a thank you. Really no grounds to complain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4 Seek3Destroy Beta Testers 23 posts 4,351 battles Report post #9 Posted September 1, 2015 Heck, I don't even care if the AA guns are on par with the Wyoming. I'd be content with a few Roman candles shooting back... Something, anything! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,545 [GWG] BrushWolf [GWG] Alpha Tester 29,405 posts 15,833 battles Report post #10 Posted September 1, 2015 I have to honestly agree to some point.. but my issue with the Arkansas is when in a fight I am not able to shoot the other ships due to range.. I would rather have some slight range buffs to the arkansas. I am usually 1.8 km short on range to be effective for shooting. ount Gun Fire Control Systen Modification 1 for a 16% range increase which puts you on par with the Wyoming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7 Victua Members 32 posts 1,139 battles Report post #11 Posted September 1, 2015 is free ship, premiums in general are worse the their normal types. No AA for free premiums because balance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
431 Razzopper In AlfaTesters 957 posts 3,049 battles Report post #12 Posted September 1, 2015 What's very sad is WG own description of it described it as having good AA. http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/31853-closed-beta-reward-uss-arkansas/ Read the description just under the photo. The official announcement was removed when we went to OBT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
106 Hans_Von_Lohman Beta Testers 576 posts 1,158 battles Report post #13 Posted September 1, 2015 The advantage of the Arkansas is the 6 upgrade slots when the Wyoming only has 2. Granted, 2 of those are to bring some terrible stats back up to par with the original ship, Rudder Shift and Gun Range. However, because it has so many upgrades to work with you can specialize your Arkansas to your play style, especially if you are willing to give up on Rudder Shift and Gun range and go for something else, like damage control. I do have the rudder shift and main gun range, but even with that I ALSO have the main gun accuracy and detection range upgrades that the Wyoming can't ever have. But, you will have to put up with no AA of any kind. That can't be changed. Personally, I am fine with the lack of AA guns. They're never going to save your ship anyway, At Tier 4 the only ship that can reliably stop air attacks are fighter loadouts on American carriers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,471 [SWFSH] Fast_Battleship_Iowa [SWFSH] Volunteer Moderator 2,629 posts 7,415 battles Report post #14 Posted September 1, 2015 I'm pretty sure even Michael Phelps can't go 20kts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
106 Hans_Von_Lohman Beta Testers 576 posts 1,158 battles Report post #15 Posted September 1, 2015 I'm pretty sure even Michael Phelps can't go 20kts. You are now required to prove it. After all, this is the internet. I find your lack of sarcasm disturbing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,471 [SWFSH] Fast_Battleship_Iowa [SWFSH] Volunteer Moderator 2,629 posts 7,415 battles Report post #16 Posted September 1, 2015 You are now required to prove it. After all, this is the internet. I find your lack of sarcasm disturbing. According to a quick google search Michael Phelps goes 7.1km/h or 3.83kts. Arkansas Beta is way faster. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
395 [DRACS] MagusGerhardt Supertester, In AlfaTesters 879 posts 4,971 battles Report post #17 Posted September 1, 2015 There's rumored to be an Arkansas 1919 file in the new patch, so perhaps the hull is being upgraded to a mid-point between the Stock Wyoming (what the Ark is now) and the 1942 refit the Wyoming recieves. Actually, Ark 1919 sounds exactly like what I was requesting in another thread in the suggestions forum for the Beta Ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
131 Shatara422 Beta Testers 537 posts 2,625 battles Report post #18 Posted September 1, 2015 One thing I noticed on the test server, is the stock Wyoming seems to be getting a few 3" AA guns. Maybe Arkansas will too...? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,799 IronWolfV Alpha Tester, Beta Testers 30,523 posts 6,337 battles Report post #19 Posted September 1, 2015 Guys we have to realize, Arkansas was launched in the WW1 era before planes and AA was a thing. Not shocking her AA is crap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
106 Hans_Von_Lohman Beta Testers 576 posts 1,158 battles Report post #20 Posted September 1, 2015 (edited) According to a quick and unnecessary google search Michael Phelps goes 7.1km/h or 3.83kts. Arkansas Beta is way faster. But nobody cares, because this wasn't about that, it was about the sarcasm, humor, and how silly it is to correct people who are just exaggerating for style. Why are you all looking at me like that? What did I say? There, fixed it for you. Edited September 1, 2015 by Hans_Von_Lohman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
332 hoom Beta Testers 2,580 posts 4,750 battles Report post #21 Posted September 1, 2015 I actually have only very rarely been focused by CVs in mine. AA really just makes some pew pew sounds for most ships until Omaha/Cleveland. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,471 [SWFSH] Fast_Battleship_Iowa [SWFSH] Volunteer Moderator 2,629 posts 7,415 battles Report post #22 Posted September 1, 2015 What was that? Sorry I legitimately enjoyed your research and care to detail to answer random people's questions. Thanks for your attention to detail and masters degree in the art of "Google-fu". I look forward to meeting you again in the future, oh wise one - Teruzuki the great. Please notice my prayers. What is this supposed to mean? (I had too much fun typing that up.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,890 [-K--] vak_ Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 8,179 posts 10,923 battles Report post #23 Posted September 1, 2015 is free ship, premiums in general are worse the their normal types. No AA for free premiums because balance. Except fully equipped Arkansas is better than Wyoming, which is a good ship by itself. Lack of AA (which is at best mediocre on a fully upgraded Wyoming) is nothing compared to tighter salvos, better concealment, better secondaries, better income, better matchmaking, and the ability to put any captain in the Beta. If someone sold the Arkansas that person is a foolish fool I tell ya. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,765 [-K-] Lord_Zath Supertest Coordinator, Alpha Tester, WoWS Community Contributors, Wiki Editor 6,629 posts 29,072 battles Report post #24 Posted September 1, 2015 Guys we have to realize, Arkansas was launched in the WW1 era before planes and AA was a thing. Not shocking her AA is crap. St Louis has AA. Launched before WW1... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
145 KurganSPK Beta Testers 901 posts 12,833 battles Report post #25 Posted September 1, 2015 I have to honestly agree to some point.. but my issue with the Arkansas is when in a fight I am not able to shoot the other ships due to range.. I would rather have some slight range buffs to the arkansas. I am usually 1.8 km short on range to be effective for shooting. invest in the range and accuracy upgrades and it's a very good ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
