9 [FAILZ] PeTeR_PetrenKo Beta Testers 32 posts Report post #1 Posted August 31, 2015 (edited) Another patch and more nerfs for the japanese ships and they make more OP the US ships , WG always makes the same in his games .......why you no reduce the fire rate of the cleveland or omaha??? why dont do someting with the "always-make-you-a-torch" shoots of the Cleveland? always Nerf the IJN , ....Do someting too with the US ships , do something with the "always-win-an-aerial-battle" planes of the US CVs, do something with the Extreme AA from the US ships , you only nerf the IJN in every one patch , im tired of that , and im no the only one, do someting about the US extremly OP ships and leave alone the bastardized IJN ships, PLEASE!.- Sry for the bad use of language, was my fault i was really mad. Edited August 31, 2015 by PeTeR_PetrenKo 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,461 Strike_Witch_Tomoko Banned 3,836 posts Report post #2 Posted August 31, 2015 care to be more specific to how IJN is being fked? other than IJN CVs furutaka is getting buffed Myoko and Mogami slightly nerfed(not enough to warrent a fk) so.....what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
231 Hangoverhomey Members 1,515 posts 8,453 battles Report post #3 Posted August 31, 2015 care to be more specific to how IJN is being fked? other than IJN CVs furutaka is getting buffed Myoko and Mogami slightly nerfed(not enough to warrent a fk) so.....what? Now you have me excited! ? what is suppose to be getting buffed on the furutaka? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
90 [-FOG-] Sir_Robert_Whitney Beta Testers 611 posts 2,887 battles Report post #4 Posted August 31, 2015 I am happy that my Furutaka is getting buffed... still kind of sad they wont add the twin turrets upgrade however. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
90 [-FOG-] Sir_Robert_Whitney Beta Testers 611 posts 2,887 battles Report post #5 Posted August 31, 2015 Now you have me excited! ? what is suppose to be getting buffed on the furutaka? The video boasted faster rate of fire and faster rotation speed of the primary armament. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
58 [WALLY] Unkle_Grimace Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 287 posts 12,389 battles Report post #6 Posted August 31, 2015 Hmmm! From the looks of it. English is not his first language. Of course rage is rage in any dialect. I for one, am really looking forward to patch 4.1.Ever forward. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,461 Strike_Witch_Tomoko Banned 3,836 posts Report post #7 Posted August 31, 2015 Now you have me excited! ? what is suppose to be getting buffed on the furutaka? small rof buff major turret traverse and ship hull traverse buff and supposedly they made the citadels a bit harder to hit with ease. (unconfirmed) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
20 [-IA-] amazingronaldo Beta Testers 67 posts 2,439 battles Report post #8 Posted August 31, 2015 Here let me translate for you OP .... Those fargin somanabatch iceholes are gonna be nerfing my favorite ship. Those lousy cork soakers! Why don't those fargin bastages nerf the other guy's favorite ships? It's a fargin frame job! This country was found so the rights of patriotic citizens like me could not be taken away by a bunch of fargin iceholes!! There how is that? 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9 [FAILZ] PeTeR_PetrenKo Beta Testers 32 posts Report post #9 Posted August 31, 2015 yes the English is no my native language , so srry for my bad english, and thx for undestand =D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,197 Legendary_Typo Members 10,919 posts 4,873 battles Report post #10 Posted August 31, 2015 Cleveland IMO doesn't need to be nerfed. The shell velocity on it is so low that at max range it is essentially useless against an evading ship. At close range, it's not hard to hit the citadel of the Cleveland. Also, who said they're not nerfing the "always-make-you-a-torch" thing? Fire chances are being reduced. And the "always-win-an-aerial-battle" thing, IJN CVs have more air groups and better air group options anyways, and you want to nerf AA? Why should that be? So you want to be untouchable in an IJN CV? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
172 BrianDavion Members 944 posts 2,251 battles Report post #11 Posted August 31, 2015 as for the Japanese CVs, their having to take a fighter group is fair although I'd rather WG address WHY Japanese CV commanders never bother with fighters 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9 [FAILZ] PeTeR_PetrenKo Beta Testers 32 posts Report post #12 Posted August 31, 2015 care to be more specific to how IJN is being fked? other than IJN CVs furutaka is getting buffed Myoko and Mogami slightly nerfed(not enough to warrent a fk) so.....what? what about the DDs? minekaze and mutsuki??? minekaze lost his torps and lost part of the fire angle AND now is more detectable..... and sims a PREMIUM ship win better torps .....and if i dont hear bad the myoko now have the same fire rate than the Wyoming a BB fire rate ..... (can be a error in the video, or no) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9 [FAILZ] PeTeR_PetrenKo Beta Testers 32 posts Report post #13 Posted August 31, 2015 Cleveland IMO doesn't need to be nerfed. The shell velocity on it is so low that at max range it is essentially useless against an evading ship. At close range, it's not hard to hit the citadel of the Cleveland. Also, who said they're not nerfing the "always-make-you-a-torch" thing? Fire chances are being reduced. And the "always-win-an-aerial-battle" thing, IJN CVs have more air groups and better air group options anyways, and you want to nerf AA? Why should that be? So you want to be untouchable in an IJN CV? check the stats of the planes jap and US and if you see the video they put a obligatory Fighter squad in jap CVs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,461 Strike_Witch_Tomoko Banned 3,836 posts Report post #14 Posted August 31, 2015 what about the DDs? minekaze and mutsuki??? minekaze lost his torps and lost part of the fire angle AND now is more detectable..... and sims a PREMIUM ship win better torps .....and if i dont hear bad the myoko now have the same fire rate than the Wyoming a BB fire rate ..... (can be a error in the video, or no) Minekaze is actually barely more detectable. and its torps are still extremely fast and deadly i never saw the appeal to the slower an easier to dodge 10km ones 8km are harder to dodge and i can still fire while invisible. as for detection. only 300m worse....not that problematic. still insanely stealthy. sims is a tier 7. i would hope it has superior torps to a tier 5. Myoko is more accurate than Wyoming. and actually has 2x to 3x the rof (nerf isn't as big as the video said) as for mitsuki...no comment. you might be wrong or right. i cant speak for it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,197 Legendary_Typo Members 10,919 posts 4,873 battles Report post #15 Posted August 31, 2015 check the stats of the planes jap and US and if you see the video they put a obligatory Fighter squad in jap CVs IIRC, that's tier VI - VIII only, and it should be done. People do really well in the Ryujo, Hiryu, and Shokaku. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
407 [GC] thehelmsman Alpha Tester 1,117 posts 5,252 battles Report post #16 Posted August 31, 2015 what about the DDs? minekaze and mutsuki??? minekaze lost his torps and lost part of the fire angle AND now is more detectable..... and sims a PREMIUM ship win better torps .....and if i dont hear bad the myoko now have the same fire rate than the Wyoming a BB fire rate ..... (can be a error in the video, or no) Minekaze is one of the best ships in the IJN tree. Sims has -more- torpedoes but that doesn't mean they're -better- torpedoes. They have a range far shorter than the detection range of the ship, unlike Minekaze, which even in stock form has 1km less detection range than its torpedoes can run. Sims isn't about the torps, it's about the guns. --Helms Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9 [FAILZ] PeTeR_PetrenKo Beta Testers 32 posts Report post #17 Posted August 31, 2015 Minekaze is one of the best ships in the IJN tree. Sims has -more- torpedoes but that doesn't mean they're -better- torpedoes. They have a range far shorter than the detection range of the ship, and they're slow. Sims isn't about the torps, it's about the guns. Myogi may not have the raw firepower that Wyoming does, but it's much faster and has much more range, and therefore is better able to dictate the terms of an engagement. Plus, it has 14" guns compared to the Wyoming's 12" guns. When Myogi hits, it hits hard. To be honest, Myogi is probably the only Japanese battleship where the huge range advantage generally enjoyed by IJN actually makes sense. There are many other factors to consider for ships than the number of guns or torpedoes. --Helms but is not the Myogi BB is the Myoko CA , so decrease his fire rate from 5.0 to 2.0 that is insane, Pensacola have a Fire Rate of 4.0 and is the same tier ..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
231 Hangoverhomey Members 1,515 posts 8,453 battles Report post #18 Posted August 31, 2015 small rof buff major turret traverse and ship hull traverse buff and supposedly they made the citadels a bit harder to hit with ease. (unconfirmed) Sounds good too me, it desperately needs a higher rate of fire and turret traverse. It's a damn cruiser, not a BB. Such a pretty looking ship as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,461 Strike_Witch_Tomoko Banned 3,836 posts Report post #19 Posted August 31, 2015 Sounds good too me, it desperately needs a higher rate of fire and turret traverse. It's a damn cruiser, not a BB. Such a pretty looking ship as well. seriously. when i first saw it the first thought in my mind was "Yubari 2.0" cause it was such a pretty ship once i played it...i was like "yeah....Yubari 2.0 was more accurate than i thought. not just in looks but in citadel 2" but the buff they giving it. i rebought it in preparation (of coarse....my ex captain for it is refusing to leave Aoba.....traitor <.<) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9 [FAILZ] PeTeR_PetrenKo Beta Testers 32 posts Report post #20 Posted August 31, 2015 (edited) Minekaze is actually barely more detectable. and its torps are still extremely fast and deadly i never saw the appeal to the slower an easier to dodge 10km ones 8km are harder to dodge and i can still fire while invisible. as for detection. only 300m worse....not that problematic. still insanely stealthy. sims is a tier 7. i would hope it has superior torps to a tier 5. Myoko is more accurate than Wyoming. and actually has 2x to 3x the rof (nerf isn't as big as the video said) as for mitsuki...no comment. you might be wrong or right. i cant speak for it BUT WYOMING IS A BB 3 tiers less ang have 305mm cannons !!!! Edited August 31, 2015 by PeTeR_PetrenKo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,461 Strike_Witch_Tomoko Banned 3,836 posts Report post #21 Posted August 31, 2015 BUT WYOMING IS A BB 3 tiers less ang have 305mm cannons !!!! so o.0 Myoko is more accurate, with higher rof, it works out. it lacks the alpha. but you gotta measure stuff in effective dpm instead of paper dpm due to how dmg works Wyoming is working out at 34k avg dmg Myoko is working out at...45k (part of that dmg from torps) http://www.warshipstats.com/analytics/ so its working out well o.o plus. higher caliber only matters when shooting BBs. against other targets lower caliber helps more. armor isn't a blessing, its curse =) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
246 Cowcharge Alpha Tester 434 posts 4,351 battles Report post #22 Posted August 31, 2015 Forcing us to take a useless squad of fighters is a hell of a nerf. The reason we don't take one now is because a three year-old with a slingshot can shoot them all down in ten seconds. The only thing they're good for is spotting. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,053 [SYN] MrDeaf Members 16,027 posts 12,803 battles Report post #23 Posted August 31, 2015 (edited) isn't that why they gave them the barrage ability? I don't understand why the Mutsuki had to be nerfed. It's quite bad as it is, and improving the gun traverse on it doesn't suddenly make it a good ship... or did they nerf it, because Hatsuharu is even worse, with the same average damage for a T7? Edited August 31, 2015 by MrDeaf 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,080 1Sherman Alpha Tester 6,683 posts 3,338 battles Report post #24 Posted August 31, 2015 Another patch and more nerfs for the japanese ships and they make more OP the US ships , WG always makes the same in his games .......why you no reduce the fire rate of the cleveland or omaha??? why dont do someting with the "always-make-you-a-torch" shoots of the Cleveland? always Nerf the IJN , ....Do someting too with the US ships , do something with the "always-win-an-aerial-battle" planes of the US CVs, do something with the Extreme AA from the US ships , you only nerf the IJN in every one patch , im tired of that , and im no the only one, do someting about the US extremly OP ships and leave alone the bastardized IJN ships, PLEASE!.- Sry for the bad use of language, was my fault i was really mad. The Cleveland definitely needs a nerf, but the Omaha? Its citadel is very easy to hit and it rarely (if ever) uses its torps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
46 ColonelYumYum Beta Testers 256 posts 4,764 battles Report post #25 Posted August 31, 2015 They want to fix ships? How about giving the Beta Arkansas her AA back? The ship is worthless without it. The Yubari needs to be tougher (harder to hit engine room), much harder to spot (not 9.9 KM!!), get longer range torps (8 km at least). As is the ship is almost worthless except as a CV escort. No CV in game and your just a target. Historic accuracy should go hand in hand with play ability and fun. It's why Japanese tanks in WoT are pretty much unplayable, their worthless against pretty much any other tank in their teir. It's really evident in the higher teirs. Why I stopped WoT. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites