Anti Air

[Phil3931]

I think BB's esp those at higher Tiers should have better AA to be able to compete with the Higher Tier CV's

- the amount of torps a cv can drop is sick - I think they need to limit the torp planes.

 

 

[TurboT]

Watch for planes, click the planes, turn your ship, make the enemy CV captain change his attack vector.  Watch planes fall from sky.

 

Planes falling from sky happens faster if next to cruiser and with on board float fighters in air.

 

 

[Tigerkiller98]

I do think that the torp planes do need to be nerved just a little because to me they sometimes seem to powerful!! Battleships I think do need to have increased AA on some of the newer Battleships, however the older battleships such as the kongo need to be left alone.

[Pappy_0311]

To the crybabies who keep crying that torp planes are OP, learn to look at your map learn how to take evasive actions or just uninstall the game now in will only get harder and we don't want to hear you cry

[armydude]

As an old grizzled Gunny on said "adapt and overcome" so plz don't cry to get everything nerfed, just learn to play and have fun.  

 

[Tigerkiller98]

To the crybabies who keep crying that torp planes are OP, learn to look at your map learn how to take evasive actions or just uninstall the game now in will only get harder and we don't want to hear you cry

 

I do take evasive actions and anything possible that I can but I its the damage that some top planes can deal to a battleship!!

 

[Pappy_0311]

If you cry about the damage you take from torp planes, I would hate to be in a game with you if you get torpedo by a DD you most throw an all out tantrum in chat. 

Let look at in from a cv's point of view a BB can shoot all day long and not run out of rounds and a BB has a reload of let say 20-25 sec( for example) also good hp and secondary guns, and if YOU are a smart BB player you use your map and have a CA escort you. And you should do pretty good. Now a CV has planes yes but he only has a limited number and when their gone he f***ed, and remember your reload is 20-25sec a CV has lets say about a 30 sec reload and 10sec take off time then lets say about 30-40sec flight time to the target, so you are looking at 1 wave of attacks every minute and a half, not counting if the deck is on fire planes can't take off. Can your BB still shoot when you are on fire? Now add in enemy fighter and AA sometimes you can lose all your planes before even dropping your torpedo or bombs. If you think CV's are OP all you need to do is play smarter and you will see how under powered CV's are.

[shell_shock]

To the people saying "take evasive actions", blah blah blah. The player controlling the planes can just wait, there is no limit to the time his planes can hang around and wait on you, that's [edited]. Is this world of warships or world of torps. Why does it take 4 or 5 direct hits from a bb to kill a dd? That's not balance at all considering that cruisers have a 3-4 second reload. Its almost like the devs want everyone running around spamming torps, what fun is that?

[Pappy_0311]

Lets try this again PLAY smarter, don't try and be a rambo and go off on your own stay with a group your AA is stronger that way. If you are in a BB and by yourself you will be the main target every time, if that is to hard for you to understand you need to uninstall now it will only get harder for you or stay in tier 1&2 battles they may be more your skill level.

[Rez_0311]

If you are going to cry about torp planes stay in tier 1and2, or learn to "adapt and overcome"

[Corey99]

Maybe you guys should just stop playing bb and try cruisers, I think the play smarter idea maybe a little hard for they to understand.

[warmseas]

I always say if you see a ship that you think is OP don't cry get one, but higher CVs are OP there torps should need a longer distance before the torps are armed. I don't have a CV and I think they should be the most powerful ships ingame but they are a bit over powered right know.

[Rez_0311]

I'm guessing most of you don't play CV's till you start playing them and playing them in high tiers don't try and say that they are OP, you have no clue what you are talking about. As for you low tier cry babys suck it up, my god do you guys cry like this anytime things get hard. You don't hear CV player cry about losing all of his planes when he loses them to AA or enemy fighter? But as soon as you get torpedo Oh my god let the crying start CV's are OP DD's are OP if you get taken out in one shot by a BB do you cry BB's are OP? Or do you say good shot? When a CA uses HE are you crying HE is OP?

[WrathTKL]

TP planes are only OP to BB captains who love going along at 1/2 speed zoomed in and firing all day.

The T6 and higher BB's already are floating bullets... that panic the bravest torpedo bomber... to the point where they lose 2-3 planes on a drop... I don't see anyone else wondering if they should REALLY shoot at that Destroy they MIGHT hit because they only have 200 shells ... and they could run out.

Or maybe they shouldn't drop Torpedo's against other OTher DD cause they only have 30 torps on the boat.

CV pilots have to be super cautious with everything they do because they are big XP pinata that everyone gun for ... with limited bullets (Planes)

Fly playing to target 30s

Drop Torps 1 sec

Fly ship back to CV 30s
Reload Time: 24sec (Assuming your comannder has all the cool stuff)

Fly ship back to target: 30s

 

 

[Matthewl419]

I think BB's esp those at higher Tiers should have better AA to be able to compete with the Higher Tier CV's

- the amount of torps a cv can drop is sick - I think they need to limit the torp planes.

 

 

 

you have definitly not been a higher tier CV

 

and dont nerf anything or buff anything, just do this

Watch for planes, click the planes, turn your ship, make the enemy CV captain change his attack vector.  Watch planes fall from sky.

 

Planes falling from sky happens faster if next to cruiser and with on board float fighters in air.

 

 

 

[SuiNyan]

Lots of people seem not to understand the idea of staying together in formation with other ships like cruisers and battleships and rely on the cumulative AA power and use the Defensive AA consumable properly... Its not that bad...

[CK8164]

I think BB's esp those at higher Tiers should have better AA to be able to compete with the Higher Tier CV's

- the amount of torps a cv can drop is sick - I think they need to limit the torp planes.

 

 

 

Well you certainly need to start reading up and get informed about all the changes that have been done thus far regarding

Balance of all munitions / ect including carrier base planes / Just adding more AA to battleships would be fine in a fantasy game .

but this game is based around real research and implementing that into all class of ships to resemble the real life counterparts in all aspects

 

 

[BelgaraththeSorcerer]

In a good 20 minute game in my hiryu I will get maybe 5 coordinated attacks from my planes and even then I wont hit half of my attacks, good turning battleship drivers can shoot down 2-3 planes per squadron while I line up my planes and even then ill miss half the torpedoes, all that while you battleships have a reload of 30 secs or so, while to restock and resupply all 6 squadrons it takes me about 2 minutes then they have to fly all the way there.... That's if there isn't a cruiser because then ill lose 50%+ of my planes on every attack, if I even attack because it's usually better to go for weaker target's than a supported battleship

[StarFox31]

I voted no due to the fact the AA on higher tier BBs is already super high and there is a low enough pop on the CVs as it is. People need to pay attention and sit by cruisers, you cant have a ship that is jack of all trades and encourages lone wolf play style.

[Ks_Twister]

I voted no.

I would say about tier 7 and on you have to start using your fleets better, cruisers need to play that roll of escorting BB's and CV"s at the start of the game and try to thin out the numbers of CV planes, no CV driver in his right mind is going to attack a BB or CV that as one or god forbid 2 high tier cruisers flanking them, that lone BB that sails off by himself and then gets mauled and cries over powered deserves his fate.

[Dr__Claw]

YES! especially T8-T10 USN BBs, the first time a modern US BB was used in an AA roll (yes that is correct, BBs were used for AA support to protect CVs) the South Dakota (the class between North Carolina and Iowa) was providing escort for the Enterprise on Oct 26th at the battle for Santa Cruz islands. during the battle multiple US ships reported the South Dakota was on fire because of the intensity of AA fire and the nonstop muzzle flashes and smoke rising from her AA guns. The SD shot down 26 planes that day. US BBs were by far the best and most effective AA platforms in the war.

[Stee]

They don't need to up the AA on BBs, and as a CV player I understand completely what the other CV players are saying.

[hsky128]

Lets try this again PLAY smarter, don't try and be a rambo and go off on your own stay with a group your AA is stronger that way. If you are in a BB and by yourself you will be the main target every time, if that is to hard for you to understand you need to uninstall now it will only get harder for you or stay in tier 1&2 battles they may be more your skill level.

 

[kenki11]

>.> Reduce USN to 5 planes, instead of 6 , Means your dodging 5 torps not 6 or if your a midway 7 torpedoes lol.

[2CRsgt]

The only AA fire that might be changed should be those that had VT or 'prox' fuses late in the fuses. NOTE: 'proximity' fused shells were and still are used to knockout a ship's electronics (radar dish/ fire control).