unrealistic game play and battle maps

[warhammerer]

If one looks at the history of naval warfare the maps need to have less land masses and more open ocean. No smart ships captain in a Capital ship (BB, BC, OR, CV) would ever be near land a mass in combat. It's just not smart tactics. For the game play though, Ship in the world war 1 didn't have radar to spot aircraft and ships, so if you keep it to WWI ships these game tactics and set up will work. But bBy 1941, radar was in high use by the british, americans, germans and later Japan. Destoryer's never got within torp. range of large ships like this game does, and the picket DD's could spot air formation from miles away. I hoped for a good realistic naval game, but to my disappointment its another first person halo game with naval ships and aircraft.

 

    If you change the maps some with less land masses and give the ships what they really had for combat the game will be harder to play but much more realistic.

 

Thank-you for your time

 

U.S. Naval Chief retired

[dgr_874]

This is not real life.

[Lert]

Nor is it a sim.

[Strike_Witch_Tomoko]

If one looks at the history of naval warfare the maps need to have less land masses and more open ocean. No smart ships captain in a Capital ship (BB, BC, OR, CV) would ever be near land a mass in combat. It's just not smart tactics. For the game play though, Ship in the world war 1 didn't have radar to spot aircraft and ships, so if you keep it to WWI ships these game tactics and set up will work. But bBy 1941, radar was in high use by the british, americans, germans and later Japan. Destoryer's never got within torp. range of large ships like this game does, and the picket DD's could spot air formation from miles away. I hoped for a good realistic naval game, but to my disappointment its another first person halo game with naval ships and aircraft.

 

    If you change the maps some with less land masses and give the ships what they really had for combat the game will be harder to play but much more realistic.

 

 

Thank-you for your time

 

 

U.S. Naval Chief retired

 

*clap clap clap*

 

its a arcade game

 

not a realistic simulator

 

*clap clap*

 

its clear you did not understand that at all.

ARCADE GAME

 

NOT SIMULATOR

 

 

 

if it was realistic. no one would play cruisers or DDs.   only BBs and carriers.

 

 

how abotu THINKING before posting

 

ITS A GAME. AN ARCADE GAME DESIGNED TO PROMOTE PLAY OF ALL CLASSES

 

NOT A SIMULATOR DESIGNED TO ONLY PROMOTE THE HISTORICALLY BIG CLASSES.

 

 

does the US navy really take in people who don't think?

wow....if you really were a navel chief. i feel sorry for our navy.

[G0lfSierra1]

This again?

 

[kmanweiss]

Thanks for your service, but if you came to WG for a reality simulator, you were misguided.  Balance and gameplay trump reality (as they should).

All open water battles would be boring.  Inability to use entire classes of ships would be boring.  You description of the game you want to play would not likely find many people to play as it would not be very entertaining.

[TheEvi1Gnom3]

 

*clap clap clap*

 

its a arcade game

 

not a realistic simulator

 

*clap clap*

 

its clear you did not understand that at all.

ARCADE GAME

 

NOT SIMULATOR

 

 

 

if it was realistic. no one would play cruisers or DDs.   only BBs and carriers.

 

 

how abotu THINKING before posting

 

ITS A GAME. AN ARCADE GAME DESIGNED TO PROMOTE PLAY OF ALL CLASSES

 

NOT A SIMULATOR DESIGNED TO ONLY PROMOTE THE HISTORICALLY BIG CLASSES.

 

 

does the US navy really take in people who don't think?

wow....if you really were a navel chief. i feel sorry for our navy.

 

Chill dude.  No reason to take this man's opinion personally.  It's a game and this it's forum.  It's not like the guy pee'd in your cheerios this morning.

[Killer1941]

People already hate the map Ocean, you want to make it so all maps are like that?

[Strike_Witch_Tomoko]

 

Chill dude.  No reason to take this man's opinion personally.  It's a game and this it's forum.  It's not like the guy pee'd in your cheerios this morning.

 

but this crap gets posted so often on the forums.

it would do wonders for people to look it up before posting it.

 

and it should be common sense to assume that a game isn't going to be realistic if it offers players DD and cruisers in 15 v 15 matches vs carriers and BBs.

 

and the whole thing about land.   the game would be really dull if all maps were ocean.     having different land set ups adds variety and thus appeal to the game.

its obvious if people think about the reasoning for more than 1 secound.

[a_trout_bum_2]

what, you never herd of the slot in the solomon islands during ww 2  where the toyko express ran to try to keep their troops  supplied. look at the map, lots of islands,  

 

true, the usa and ijn  fleets didnt fight the battles the way wow is fighting , but this is an arcade game, not a true to life sim

[Patriot_games_1]

Insulting one of the less than 1% who had the nuts enough serve is uncalled for!

[MrMooFlarby01]

 

but this crap gets posted so often on the forums.

it would do wonders for people to look it up before posting it.

 

and it should be common sense to assume that a game isn't going to be realistic if it offers players DD and cruisers in 15 v 15 matches vs carriers and BBs.

 

and the whole thing about land.   the game would be really dull if all maps were ocean.     having different land set ups adds variety and thus appeal to the game.

its obvious if people think about the reasoning for more than 1 secound.

 

People download a game that is set in a historical time with historical ships and historical parameters. It's ok to expect historical aspects to the game. It's not ok to be a jerk to every person that wishes for more realism for the first time.

[MexicanPanda]

and it should be common sense to assume that a game isn't going to be realistic if it offers players DD and cruisers in 15 v 15 matches vs carriers and BBs.

 

and the whole thing about land.   the game would be really dull if all maps were ocean.     having different land set ups adds variety and thus appeal to the game.

its obvious if people think about the reasoning for more than 1 secound.

Not arguing, just pointing out something. You say it's common sense that it's not going to be realistic, but the problem is, that common sense is incredibly uncommon. Rare in fact these days.

[Strike_Witch_Tomoko]

Not arguing, just pointing out something. You say it's common sense that it's not going to be realistic, but the problem is, that common sense is incredibly uncommon. Rare in fact these days.

 

thats depressing....

[RainbowDash007]

don't forget we do have an open ocean map, one of the most requested so yes, actual naval tactics can be used in a maner so to speak with that map.  And who knows maybe there will be othe rmaps that ar emor eopen with fewer islands but having some land mass.  I am sure WG will come up with some cool new maps.

[Quaffer]

People already hate the map Ocean, you want to make it so all maps are like that?

 

Not everyone hates Ocean.  Many of us enjoy it and wouldn't mind a few maps where we have a little more sea room.

 

To the rest of you, warhammerer has as much right to post his opinion here as anyone else.  Considering some of the ideas we get thrown about with very little evidence of forethought I'd say we can afford him a little more tolerance than this thread has exhibited thus far.

 

In many ways the game has been dumbed down from what it once was.  For my money it's too much speedboats with guns, and not enough naval warfare.

 

You don't have to agree with warhammerer, or me come to that, but I'd appreciate it if you showed a little more respect.

[Killer1941]

 

Not everyone hates Ocean.  Many of us enjoy it and wouldn't mind a few maps where we have a little more sea room.

 

To the rest of you, warhammerer has as much right to post his opinion here as anyone else.  Considering some of the ideas we get thrown about with very little evidence of forethought I'd say we can afford him a little more tolerance than this thread has exhibited thus far.

 

In many ways the game has been dumbed down from what it once was.  For my money it's too much speedboats with guns, and not enough naval warfare.

 

You don't have to agree with warhammerer, or me come to that, but I'd appreciate it if you showed a little more respect.

 

I said people hate it, not everyone. Sorry if my comment implied that, I think it is an okay map.

[BlazerSparta]

Games = fun. Reality =/= fun. Game =/= reality

 

Being a veteran doesn't give you any qualifications to comment on games. If you're going to make a suggestion about gameplay, then make your points based on gameplay.

[Quaffer]

Games = fun. Reality =/= fun. Game =/= reality

 

Being a veteran doesn't give you any qualifications to comment on games. If you're going to make a suggestion about gameplay, then make your points based on gameplay.

 

If you are limiting things that you enjoy, to things that are not found in reality, you are missing out on a whole lot of fun. Expand your horizons.  You will smile more often.

[Legendary_Typo]

There are ships in-game that rely on landmasses, USN DDs for example. Yes it may be unrealistic to fight near a bunch of islands, but it's for game balance.

[Quaffer]

I found nothing in warhammerer's post that would indicate that he was "a bit thick".  I found nothing in it deserving of mockery.  His idea of an ideal game may not be coincident with yours but that is no call to mock him.  We are better off ignoring a persons "qualifications" and address the topics that are brought up directly.

 

His vision of the game involves more sea room at the higher tiers than yours and a change to the detection system.  Talk about that then.

[bzep666]

 

*clap clap clap*

 

its a arcade game

 

not a realistic simulator

 

*clap clap*

 

its clear you did not understand that at all.

ARCADE GAME

 

NOT SIMULATOR

 

 

 

if it was realistic. no one would play cruisers or DDs.   only BBs and carriers.

 

 

how abotu THINKING before posting

 

ITS A GAME. AN ARCADE GAME DESIGNED TO PROMOTE PLAY OF ALL CLASSES

 

NOT A SIMULATOR DESIGNED TO ONLY PROMOTE THE HISTORICALLY BIG CLASSES.

 

 

does the US navy really take in people who don't think?

wow....if you really were a navel chief. i feel sorry for our navy.

 This is why I wish we still had -1s. Wow, are you 12?

[BlazerSparta]

 

If you are limiting things that you enjoy, to things that are not found in reality, you are missing out on a whole lot of fun. Expand your horizons.  You will smile more often.

 

Why would I want the unfun bits of reality in my games?

[Quaffer]

Games = fun. Reality =/= fun. Game =/= reality

 

Being a veteran doesn't give you any qualifications to comment on games. If you're going to make a suggestion about gameplay, then make your points based on gameplay.

 

 

If you are limiting things that you enjoy, to things that are not found in reality, you are missing out on a whole lot of fun. Expand your horizons.  You will smile more often.

 

 

Why would I want the unfun bits of reality in my games?

 

So you've never been to a live concert and had fun?  You've never had a great meal? You've never  ... ahem... spent time with a significant other? You've never been on a roller coaster... ridden a bike down a steep hill... played a ball game.. clowned around with a puppy...? etc.  Reality can be a blast; even when it's incorporated in a game. If you want to throw away everything real may I recommend E.V.E. or World of WarCraft.  Enjoy life, even if it means living through pixels.

[Darquenova]

Wow! Considering how young this community is. It is already extremely toxic. We need some mods to start handing out warnings for this ridiculous behavior.