0 DragonScorched Members 3 posts 1,755 battles Report post #1 Posted August 14, 2015 Even more complaining about carriers have caused them to be nerfed into the ground, with the AI taking stupid paths on manual drops, torpedoes dropping far back from where you've actually set them, and far less aircraft. Hooray~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,407 Compassghost Supertest Coordinator 7,223 posts 14,454 battles Report post #2 Posted August 14, 2015 Carriers are fine. The new paths are technically a buff because that's the ARMING RANGE 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
355 [-WTP-] Kermut Alpha Tester 834 posts 9,458 battles Report post #3 Posted August 14, 2015 Carriers are fine. The new paths are technically a buff because that's the ARMING RANGE could you please explain what the new paths are? I'm on mobile and won't be able to install the beta for some while. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,407 Compassghost Supertest Coordinator 7,223 posts 14,454 battles Report post #4 Posted August 14, 2015 Old TB aiming showed where torpedoes were dropped. New TB aiming shows where torpedoes become armed. Like DD torpedo arcs where torpedoes are armed once they reach the big wedge. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
861 Sakuzhi Beta Testers 7,130 posts 7,345 battles Report post #5 Posted August 14, 2015 The bigger change was that IJN CVs until Tier 9 lost their 3 torpedo bomber option. Which was long due. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
57 Wesrin Alpha Tester 63 posts 921 battles Report post #6 Posted August 14, 2015 I love CV driver tears. Indeed, the ridiculous strike option for IJN needed a tone-down. The new manual drop template is a good thing for CV drivers, imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
635 [CHASE] NeonPeanuts Beta Testers 1,810 posts 6,064 battles Report post #7 Posted August 14, 2015 nerfed into the ground Hooray~ The fact that you celebrate one class becoming useless in your eyes is disgusting. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
534 [VPMN] 4wilds Alpha Tester, Beta Testers 2,095 posts 8,175 battles Report post #8 Posted August 14, 2015 The fact that you celebrate one class becoming useless in your eyes is disgusting. Um....he plays CVs as well and I'm thinking maybe he was being sarcastic. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,471 [SWFSH] Fast_Battleship_Iowa [SWFSH] Volunteer Moderator 2,629 posts 7,415 battles Report post #9 Posted August 14, 2015 I love CV driver tears. Indeed, the ridiculous strike option for IJN needed a tone-down. The new manual drop template is a good thing for CV drivers, imo. Which is hilarious because IJN has wicked-wide drops compared to the dense 6-torpedo block that USN gets, not to mention higher tier USN carriers start to get more TB squadrons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
42 LordCommanderMatthew Members 318 posts Report post #10 Posted August 14, 2015 I finally see the day that carriers no longer have magic 100 feet from hull instant death drops. Plays we are the champions by queen 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,557 [KSF] BiggieD61 Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 1,732 posts 21,674 battles Report post #11 Posted August 14, 2015 The fact that you celebrate one class becoming useless in your eyes is disgusting. Disgusting? Turn down the emo there Anime guy. It's a balance move, one of many that an MMO goes through over the life of the game. Of course if you are saying that low to mid tier IJN CV's were balanced before hand, we know where you are coming from ..... 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
80 MandoWarrior1 Beta Testers 555 posts 65 battles Report post #12 Posted August 14, 2015 So what are all the changes in this aptch? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
870 [A-D] Carrier_Ikoma Beta Testers, Alpha Tester 2,638 posts Report post #13 Posted August 14, 2015 Which is hilarious because IJN has wicked-wide drops compared to the dense 6-torpedo block that USN gets, not to mention higher tier USN carriers start to get more TB squadrons. I'm thinking more and more I need to switch to USN. My current IJN CV only gets 2 TBs now, with a huge spread and less damage per torpedo. Doesn't really seem worth it... But then I have to grind up through the USN lines, and deal with the Bogue when I get to it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
141 [DRACS] Kayos Alpha Tester 1,013 posts 1,057 battles Report post #14 Posted August 14, 2015 Best news I've heard in a long time !!!!! About time. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
109 [CWGC] Summon3r Members 848 posts 2,977 battles Report post #15 Posted August 14, 2015 sounds good hope it wasnt over done though as i was never to think that CV's themselves were very op Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
348 [H-T] Fog_Destroyer_Akizuki Beta Testers 2,249 posts 3,258 battles Report post #16 Posted August 14, 2015 sounds good hope it wasnt over done though as i was never to think that CV's themselves were very op People feel planes should be soft as butter and any ship that had good AA should be relativly immune to air attack. "Death Drops" ........... oh you mean they well timed their incoming planes to drop in accordance to your predicted motions and thus took lots of damage?....like a battleship well timing their lead and range and slapping you with a citadel hit.......honestly the "nerf this, buff that" rhetoric is sometimes infantile in it's display. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
399 Scotty_SE Beta Testers 1,313 posts 12,709 battles Report post #17 Posted August 14, 2015 I finally see the day that carriers no longer have magic 100 feet from hull instant death drops. Plays we are the champions by queen More like Beck's "Loser" song given there isn't a single high tier CV players that doesn't rely rely on this garbage mechanic for wins. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
492 [STW] KTcraft Beta Testers 1,984 posts 10,616 battles Report post #18 Posted August 14, 2015 More like Beck's "Loser" song given there isn't a single high tier CV players that doesn't rely rely on this garbage mechanic for wins. While it may be true IJN and high tier USN carriers are overperforming, you cannot dismiss the skill involved in timing drops and multitasking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,455 [FOXEH] DoomStomper Beta Testers 3,985 posts 2,373 battles Report post #19 Posted August 14, 2015 Old TB aiming showed where torpedoes were dropped. New TB aiming shows where torpedoes become armed. Like DD torpedo arcs where torpedoes are armed once they reach the big wedge. That is a nice change! When I finally get around to playing carriers (not until the devs officially state CVs are in a stable place and "working as intended"), I was planning to look for a mod that did just that. As usual, my hat is off to all current CV drivers for enduring this apparent roller coaster ride of changes that I'm too lazy to adapt to. Carriers are looking on track to being a fun class indeed! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,060 [-K--] Spyde Beta Testers 4,889 posts 15,173 battles Report post #20 Posted August 14, 2015 Old TB aiming showed where torpedoes were dropped. New TB aiming shows where torpedoes become armed. Like DD torpedo arcs where torpedoes are armed once they reach the big wedge. Sounds like a buff to me for some players. There will be alot less dead drops now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5 schwanksta Beta Testers 16 posts 1,009 battles Report post #21 Posted August 14, 2015 I started playing CV for the first time in open beta last night, and I didn't find it all that easy. I did figure out how to manually drop torps after becoming really frustrated at the crazy wide spreads my IJN TBs were making. Hats off to the folks who can coordinate multiple, simultaneous manual drops from different attack vectors. It'll be interesting to see how these changes work out. I played USN CV in CB (never tried manual drops then), and I'm not sure if things changed with 0.4.0 or if it's just that IJN CV play is different. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
80 MandoWarrior1 Beta Testers 555 posts 65 battles Report post #22 Posted August 14, 2015 People feel planes should be soft as butter and any ship that had good AA should be relativly immune to air attack. "Death Drops" ........... oh you mean they well timed their incoming planes to drop in accordance to your predicted motions and thus took lots of damage?....like a battleship well timing their lead and range and slapping you with a citadel hit.......honestly the "nerf this, buff that" rhetoric is sometimes infantile in it's display. You forget battleships prayers to RNGesus being answered 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
348 [H-T] Fog_Destroyer_Akizuki Beta Testers 2,249 posts 3,258 battles Report post #23 Posted August 14, 2015 You forget battleships prayers to RNGesus being answered RnGeesus yes, but if a target is ranged properly, I aim correctly, and he's broadside to me, i land a good hit nonethe less, the chance of nothing and it all straddling is low. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
40 EmptyPepsiCan Members 105 posts 284 battles Report post #24 Posted August 14, 2015 Um....he plays CVs as well and I'm thinking maybe he was being sarcastic. How can you tell what class he plays? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,548 [EPOXY] Tedster_ Wiki Editor, Members, Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters, Beta Testers 5,899 posts 13,703 battles Report post #25 Posted August 14, 2015 stats pages are public. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
