33 Flying_Bacon_Monster Alpha Tester 58 posts 2,702 battles Report post #1 Posted August 11, 2015 I used to be primarily a battleship player, I enjoyed the long range combat a ton but I decided to switch that out, I then went into the american cruisers. These were alright but something was wrong with them and I still can't put my finger on it... so I became bored on playing them. Then when open beta hit I tried out the Japanese cruisers, always good to try out new things right? I was at the tier 3 cruiser when I started to see the bright of it, the guns just sound fantastic! Then at the Kuma all hell broke loose... Every single game was absolutely amazing, I swear for every winning game I must have gotten more than 3 kills easily, plus I never sailed a ship before where I got 5 kills back to back with every match. I was a bit sad when I transitioned to the furutaka (furious taco), however that sadness was short lived because... my first match I got 6 kills... I think I am officially a Japanese cruiser captain from now on Good sounding guns+Fast ship+torpedoes=amazing 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
726 RogueFlameHaze Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 8,843 posts 7,637 battles Report post #2 Posted August 11, 2015 And imo they just get better as they go! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,799 IronWolfV Alpha Tester, Beta Testers 30,523 posts 6,320 battles Report post #3 Posted August 11, 2015 Mogami is love, Mogami is life. I so need her back. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,461 Strike_Witch_Tomoko Banned 3,836 posts Report post #4 Posted August 11, 2015 tier 4 and below are great tier 5 is a downside. but hopefully fixed in next patch tier 6 is a preview to the rest of the line, with the bad citadels, good guns, decent torps. and good stealth. but ironically has the best firing guns of ANY of them xD -keeper tier 7 is....decent but the downside is the 3 rear facing torps (something Atago has...) tier 8 fixes this with 3 front facing torps. and is just epic! the first ship above tier 4 to benefit from the captain skills for + reload, traverse, AND range with its 155mm. -keeper. and owner of the Queen of Tier 8 title (king going to North Carolina) tier 9 is...not bad but its honestly feels a bit dissapointing after Myoko and Mogami got you used to so many turrets. it improves the stats ever so slightly but its just not as appealing (doesn't help it has HORRIBLE repair cost. RIP) tier 10 is epic. with a MASSIVE boost to citadel armor and hull armor compared to ANY of the other ships in its line. the guns are inferior to Des Moines, but its a beauty of a ship with EXTREMELY fast moving torps (72knots!. only 8km range but that means anyone who gets within 8km range had better get the fk out of range FAST). and its the first ship in its line to have a WORKING torpedo belt (does a good job decreasing torp dmg. and decreasing chance of flooding) -it should be mentioned that TECHNICALLY the Mogami is the first to have a torpedo belt thats useful, but its rather hard to notice the belt working until the Zao. where it shows up strong. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
33 Flying_Bacon_Monster Alpha Tester 58 posts 2,702 battles Report post #5 Posted August 11, 2015 lol Yeah the Furutaka and the gun traverse rate is just terrible, but the armor isn't that bad, I bounced a couple of shots from a south Carolina Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,944 [GUTS] Mizzerys_Fate [GUTS] Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 8,547 posts 30,032 battles Report post #6 Posted August 11, 2015 I love my fruitcake and it's getting BUFFED next patch. Kumo is love...... But i got to say, I love my US cruisers too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
255 [R_N] Tank3rDude Beta Testers 899 posts 1,776 battles Report post #7 Posted August 11, 2015 Yes the Japanese cruisers are much fun and seriously outclass the American ones from tier 6 and up, yes even the Cleveland is just "on par" with the Aoba. Now the pre-OBT Cleveland was a different story. But the Japanese cruisers from tier 6 up get the same 203 guns with better rates of fire and torpedoes, as well as generally more HP to boot! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
109 [CWGC] Summon3r Members 848 posts 2,977 battles Report post #8 Posted August 12, 2015 i quite enjoy ijn cruisers, the ability to dump torps and make the guy shooting at you have a shitfit and turn is nice or he doesnt and dies a horrible death Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
116 illyrium_dawn Beta Testers 295 posts 565 battles Report post #9 Posted August 12, 2015 Yes the Japanese cruisers are much fun and seriously outclass the American ones from tier 6 and up, yes even the Cleveland is just "on par" with the Aoba. Now the pre-OBT Cleveland was a different story. But the Japanese cruisers from tier 6 up get the same 203 guns with better rates of fire and torpedoes, as well as generally more HP to boot! I don't know if they outclass American cruisers. The Myoko is probably better than the Cleveland, but it's no as much of a no-contest as people think. IJN cruisers do let you do weird things like torpedo stuff and their guns are much easier to use. The Japanese 203mms are fun guns because they're so easy to use, but there's a drawback to them: They don't improve. The 203mms you were using in the Furutaka are the same ones you're using the Ibuki (the Zao gets better guns). American 8" guns continually get damage improvements as they go up in tiers. While a few hundred points of damage doesn't seem like much, it actually makes a large difference, especially when you get things like citadels because the damage that gets through the armor is essentially multiplied. So a few hundred points more ... are multiplied. The big drawback of USN 8" guns in that annoying lofting trajectory, making it a chore to hit at long range but they actually have smaller dispersal than the IJN ones, so at closer range, they're superior. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
255 [R_N] Tank3rDude Beta Testers 899 posts 1,776 battles Report post #10 Posted August 12, 2015 I don't know if they outclass American cruisers. The Myoko is probably better than the Cleveland, but it's no as much of a no-contest as people think. IJN cruisers do let you do weird things like torpedo stuff and their guns are much easier to use. The Japanese 203mms are fun guns because they're so easy to use, but there's a drawback to them: They don't improve. The 203mms you were using in the Furutaka are the same ones you're using the Ibuki (the Zao gets better guns). American 8" guns continually get damage improvements as they go up in tiers. While a few hundred points of damage doesn't seem like much, it actually makes a large difference, especially when you get things like citadels because the damage that gets through the armor is essentially multiplied. So a few hundred points more ... are multiplied. The big drawback of USN 8" guns in that annoying lofting trajectory, making it a chore to hit at long range but they actually have smaller dispersal than the IJN ones, so at closer range, they're superior. The Aerican 8" guns get more damage as the tiers increase? I did not know that as I have not looked at the high tier cruisers in a good while. Guess that is something to note. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
50 SgtSoviet Beta Testers 294 posts Report post #11 Posted August 12, 2015 I used to be primarily a battleship player, I enjoyed the long range combat a ton but I decided to switch that out, I then went into the american cruisers. These were alright but something was wrong with them and I still can't put my finger on it... so I became bored on playing them. Then when open beta hit I tried out the Japanese cruisers, always good to try out new things right? I was at the tier 3 cruiser when I started to see the bright of it, the guns just sound fantastic! Then at the Kuma all hell broke loose... Every single game was absolutely amazing, I swear for every winning game I must have gotten more than 3 kills easily, plus I never sailed a ship before where I got 5 kills back to back with every match. I was a bit sad when I transitioned to the furutaka (furious taco), however that sadness was short lived because... my first match I got 6 kills... I think I am officially a Japanese cruiser captain from now on Good sounding guns+Fast ship+torpedoes=amazing I know righ ti got my NC then i palyed CA's and realised how easy CA players actually have it im good jap cruisers are awesome Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
158 DEADTIME Members 322 posts Report post #12 Posted August 12, 2015 (edited) I used to be primarily a battleship player, I enjoyed the long range combat a ton but I decided to switch that out, I then went into the american cruisers. These were alright but something was wrong with them and I still can't put my finger on it... so I became bored on playing them. Then when open beta hit I tried out the Japanese cruisers, always good to try out new things right? I was at the tier 3 cruiser when I started to see the bright of it, the guns just sound fantastic! Then at the Kuma all hell broke loose... Every single game was absolutely amazing, I swear for every winning game I must have gotten more than 3 kills easily, plus I never sailed a ship before where I got 5 kills back to back with every match. I was a bit sad when I transitioned to the furutaka (furious taco), however that sadness was short lived because... my first match I got 6 kills... I think I am officially a Japanese cruiser captain from now on Good sounding guns+Fast ship+torpedoes=amazing have you hit the furry taco yet?(I see you have, good luck). Edited August 12, 2015 by DEADTIME Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
50 SgtSoviet Beta Testers 294 posts Report post #13 Posted August 12, 2015 have you hit the furry taco yet?(I see you have, good luck). cute you think the furry taco is a road block please i gorund through the craporado im used to bad ships and 160k EXP grinds in bad ships Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,020 [PPNA1] Dah_Bears268 [PPNA1] Beta Testers 2,236 posts 29,738 battles Report post #14 Posted August 12, 2015 (edited) Mogami is love, Mogami is life. I so need her back. One reason I still haven't sailed in my Ibuki(unlocked her Saturday night, bought the ship Monday) is that I refused to sell Mogami therefore is short on cash to mount upgrade on Ibuki. Didn't regret it though, two games today back to back: CSS Mogami Edited August 12, 2015 by Cpt_VictorHenry_USN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,799 IronWolfV Alpha Tester, Beta Testers 30,523 posts 6,320 battles Report post #15 Posted August 12, 2015 One reason I still haven't sailed in my Ibuki(unlocked her Saturday night) is that I refused to sell Mogami therefore is short on cash to mount upgrade on Ibuki. Didn't regret it though, two games today back to back: CSS Mogami Only at Aoba currently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
627 [MAHAN] AdmiralPiett Beta Testers 1,605 posts 7,195 battles Report post #16 Posted August 12, 2015 I really enjoy the Japanese cruiser line. Their 8" guns sound amazing too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest 0 posts Report post #17 Posted August 12, 2015 Their cruisers are just plain amazing overall, you can't help but like using them in battle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,799 IronWolfV Alpha Tester, Beta Testers 30,523 posts 6,320 battles Report post #18 Posted August 12, 2015 Their cruisers are just plain amazing overall, you can't help but like using them in battle. Hence why I am going up both cruiser lines first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,020 [PPNA1] Dah_Bears268 [PPNA1] Beta Testers 2,236 posts 29,738 battles Report post #19 Posted August 12, 2015 (edited) The Aerican 8" guns get more damage as the tiers increase? I did not know that as I have not looked at the high tier cruisers in a good while. Guess that is something to note. 203mm Gun AP Damage Table: Furukata stock(200mm gun)/Pensacola stock 4500 Pensacola upgraded,New Orleans, Baltimore stock 4600 Furukata upgraded,Aoba,Myoko,Mogami(8"),Atago,Ibuki 4700 Baltimore upgraded, Des Moines 5000 Zao 5400 American 8" gun have higher AP damage at tier 9 once upgraded, but otherwise does less AP damage at all tiers. Japanese 203mm HE shell is much better too, deal 500 more damage and have 2% higher chance of starting a fire(14 vs 16%, Zao's have 18% chance). Edited August 12, 2015 by Cpt_VictorHenry_USN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
75 [WORST] GunBoat2305 Alpha Tester 336 posts Report post #20 Posted August 12, 2015 Yes the Japanese cruisers are much fun and seriously outclass the American ones from tier 6 and up, yes even the Cleveland is just "on par" with the Aoba. Now the pre-OBT Cleveland was a different story. But the Japanese cruisers from tier 6 up get the same 203 guns with better rates of fire and torpedoes, as well as generally more HP to boot! They have done nothing to the Cleveland so if it was good in CBT it's still good in OBT and I really feel the only ship that is some what weak on the us CA line is the pensacola due to the fact it's a steep learning curve from the T6 but if you take the time in it you will own in the T8 and up with US Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest 0 posts Report post #21 Posted August 12, 2015 Hence why I am going up both cruiser lines first. I wish you the best of luck with that, have fun grinding up the trees o7. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12 StarbuckMarik Beta Testers 74 posts 333 battles Report post #22 Posted August 12, 2015 I used to be primarily a battleship player, I enjoyed the long range combat a ton but I decided to switch that out, I then went into the american cruisers. These were alright but something was wrong with them and I still can't put my finger on it... so I became bored on playing them. Then when open beta hit I tried out the Japanese cruisers, always good to try out new things right? I was at the tier 3 cruiser when I started to see the bright of it, the guns just sound fantastic! Then at the Kuma all hell broke loose... Every single game was absolutely amazing, I swear for every winning game I must have gotten more than 3 kills easily, plus I never sailed a ship before where I got 5 kills back to back with every match. I was a bit sad when I transitioned to the furutaka (furious taco), however that sadness was short lived because... my first match I got 6 kills... I think I am officially a Japanese cruiser captain from now on Good sounding guns+Fast ship+torpedoes=amazing I'll Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
23 DSA_Corsair114 Members 208 posts 691 battles Report post #23 Posted August 12, 2015 They have done nothing to the Cleveland so if it was good in CBT it's still good in OBT and I really feel the only ship that is some what weak on the us CA line is the pensacola due to the fact it's a steep learning curve from the T6 but if you take the time in it you will own in the T8 and up with US If you watch videos of the Cleveland shortly before and after the launch of the OBT patch, you can see they made its arc about 5-6 degrees higher, leading to much longer flight times. It's really difficult to effectively fight other cruisers outside of 10km that do a good job of maneuvering and adjusting speed frequently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
