112 BlackBeard1987 Beta Testers 398 posts 2,828 battles Report post #1 Posted August 11, 2015 I have much more fun at T 5 or T 6 - The higher I got, now at T 9, it blows, and cost to repair is so incredibly high.. why is getting higher in the game really a punishment? It should be more rewarding! This is definitely a fail on the games part. 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,104 [WOLF1] paradat Beta Testers 16,643 posts 24,301 battles Report post #2 Posted August 11, 2015 Free to play model. It is what it is. Encourages those that can to dip into the wallet.. which is good for the game. Encourages those that can't to play lower tiers to finance higher tiers which is also good for the game. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,407 Compassghost Supertest Coordinator 7,223 posts 14,450 battles Report post #3 Posted August 11, 2015 Welcome to the big leagues, where the best of the best demolish the average. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
112 BlackBeard1987 Beta Testers 398 posts 2,828 battles Report post #4 Posted August 11, 2015 Welcome to the big leagues, where the best of the best demolish the average. Im not saying im bad.. im not the best, but I dont suck, I learned from T 1 up to where I am now.. Im just saying, the actual gameplay is more fun at 5 or 6, where as 8 9 and I imagine 10 is just a grind.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
39,439 [HINON] Lert Alpha Tester 27,812 posts 26,851 battles Report post #5 Posted August 11, 2015 *sigh* This again? Higher tiers are not supposed to be profitable, unless you're really good. The reasons are: 1) To encourage people to buy gold and premium, WG's main source of income. They are a for-profit organization after all. God forbid a company trying to encourage their customers to pay for their product ... 2) To encourage people to play the lower tiers as well, and avoid having everybody who has a high tier vehicle running nothing but it all day long. This keeps the game alive by ensuring there is enough population at mid tiers for everyone to find a game quickly. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,407 Compassghost Supertest Coordinator 7,223 posts 14,450 battles Report post #6 Posted August 11, 2015 I'm not saying you're bad. I'm saying you're the average player. At T9 It is unsustainable for the average player to consistently break even, because the great players are also in T9 and T10 laying out lead poisoning which will incur repairs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,319 suleiman71 -Members- 6,960 posts 10,623 battles Report post #7 Posted August 11, 2015 *sigh* This again? Higher tiers are not supposed to be profitable, unless you're really good. The reasons are: 1) To encourage people to buy gold and premium, WG's main source of income. They are a for-profit organization after all. God forbid a company trying to encourage their customers to pay for their product ... 2) To encourage people to play the lower tiers as well, and avoid having everybody who has a high tier vehicle running nothing but it all day long. This keeps the game alive by ensuring there is enough population at mid tiers for everyone to find a game quickly. Mid-tiers are also a balance between new capabilities and chances to ship classes, draw rates, and fun overall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
112 BlackBeard1987 Beta Testers 398 posts 2,828 battles Report post #8 Posted August 11, 2015 *****[Content Moderated – General Insults]~PanikMekanic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
770 [TXGUN] donaldEpott [TXGUN] Members 4,596 posts 13,562 battles Report post #9 Posted August 11, 2015 Ya Cruisers at that tier are not all that great to play. Its why I am focused more on the Battleship lines. The Battleships are great at those tiers as well as the Destroyers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 anonym_E4frrPsISLY2 Members 207 posts Report post #10 Posted August 11, 2015 Lets face it higher tiers withoutt a gold account do not make sense. It is a must. You must accept that higher tier VIII-X are basically pay to play. It is a business decision by WG just a Lert pointed out. I spent gobs on WOT for several years, I learned my lesson. WOWS will be no different. No sense in getting upset at WG...after all we are playing "their" game. For what I personally want to spend on the game, a gold account and playing no higher than tier VII suites me just fine. It is a personal decision you make as to how much you want to spend to play higher tier vehicles. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,407 Compassghost Supertest Coordinator 7,223 posts 14,450 battles Report post #11 Posted August 11, 2015 lol, yea, judging based on nothing. Idiot. No, I'm actually judging based on your account stats. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
112 BlackBeard1987 Beta Testers 398 posts 2,828 battles Report post #12 Posted August 11, 2015 Number of games in consideration, about the same as yours... cough, anyway.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
355 [-WTP-] Kermut Alpha Tester 834 posts 9,235 battles Report post #13 Posted August 11, 2015 lol, yea, judging based on nothing. Idiot. Aren't we salty...he saying average players (myself included) struggle at those tiers due to divisions of elite players in Tier 10s owning people. Nothing to get upset about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
112 BlackBeard1987 Beta Testers 398 posts 2,828 battles Report post #14 Posted August 11, 2015 Id like to see a bigger rewards system... rewards tailored to each tier, gives people something to play fpr other than what they are already grinding for.. would not be hard to implement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,471 [SALVO] Dr_Venture Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 6,610 posts 7,430 battles Report post #15 Posted August 11, 2015 Aren't we salty...he saying average players (myself included) struggle at those tiers due to divisions of elite players in Tier 10s owning people. Nothing to get upset about. Its more like elite players exploiting the low server population in divisions to consistently club people three tiers below them...and think there isn't anything wrong with it. 13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
492 MikeLapTrap Beta Testers 3,012 posts 1,480 battles Report post #16 Posted August 11, 2015 Id like to see a bigger rewards system... rewards tailored to each tier, gives people something to play fpr other than what they are already grinding for.. would not be hard to implement. no, sorry but T10 is only for clan wars, tourneys, and pubs(if your really good) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
492 MikeLapTrap Beta Testers 3,012 posts 1,480 battles Report post #17 Posted August 11, 2015 Its more like elite players exploiting the low server population in divisions to consistently club people three tiers below them...and think there isn't anything wrong with it. killing a T7 is work nothing to a T10, even T8s are barely worth anything Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
206 SpeedingBus Beta Testers 1,198 posts 2,732 battles Report post #18 Posted August 11, 2015 Number of games in consideration, about the same as yours... cough, anyway.. No need to get upset honestly high tiers is pretty hard for average player because only the hard core players really play high tier so your just going to have bad time in general. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
43 DarkStar80 Members 158 posts 3,363 battles Report post #19 Posted August 11, 2015 Its more like elite players exploiting the low server population in divisions to consistently club people three tiers below them...and think there isn't anything wrong with it. And it's the skilled players responsibility to what, throw the odd game to keep the average players happy? Get better or stay in lower tiers......or [edited]to WG to change it. Don't complain about people that are good. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
648 Nachoo31 Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 4,050 posts Report post #20 Posted August 11, 2015 Look at the big ego stroking going on in here. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
251 Kaeldian Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 890 posts 2,056 battles Report post #21 Posted August 11, 2015 And it's the skilled players responsibility to what, throw the odd game to keep the average players happy? Get better or stay in lower tiers......or [edited]to WG to change it. Don't complain about people that are good. Yah... difficult when your Tier 7 keeps getting pulled into tier 10 matches that don't even have enough players to fill both teams... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
45 [DO-IT] hawaiiandude241 Beta Testers 150 posts 11,395 battles Report post #22 Posted August 11, 2015 At the current state of the game and its undeveloped population spread, I wouldn't venture into higher tier battles (8+) until late fall. As it stands the folks who are already in their top tier ships are making a killing since they will be always be the top tier ships facing those with Atago's and those grinding through base hulls of lower tier ships than their own. BlackBeard1987, there's nothing wrong with being average, no game will have a large portion of the population as really great to elite players. Taking a step back to observe how you're playing ,adjusting, learning, reading up on information will make your playing experience more enjoyable. Hell even I wouldn't compare to many of them despite my stats. Top tier ships are rewarding, to those who truly become one with their ships and have consistent friends to play with. Having people you can trust, not as a means to be carried, but to have teammates who also know very well what they're doing and how to go about it can make the end tier experience that much better. Find folks who are willing to join up, who you can plan with and stick with to focus fire on enemies once in a match. If you enjoy the mid tiers more, by all means invest the majority of your time there, as playing the high tiers alone can be frustrating and stressful at times. There's no reason to sour your experience by going alone into those higher tier match, especially if you're grinding for modules. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
847 [BONKY] Merc85 Beta Testers 2,426 posts 38,697 battles Report post #23 Posted August 11, 2015 I have much more fun at T 5 or T 6 - The higher I got, now at T 9, it blows, and cost to repair is so incredibly high.. why is getting higher in the game really a punishment? It should be more rewarding! This is definitely a fail on the games part. So far for me, in terms of pure fun and when I am playing solo, tier V is the best. Fun ships (Minekaze & Murmansk), the MM works fairly well at mid tiers since many captains play there, and you can make lots of credits with small repair bills. At tier IX you face many very good players in powerful ships, the MM doesn't work as well since there are significantly fewer captains there, and repair bills are very high. Plus imo you are playing a ship which at that level is hard to compete in, at least based upon what I've seen of it. So yah, it's going to be a rough ride. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
379 [HBK] Business6 WoWS Community Contributors 1,361 posts 16,300 battles Report post #24 Posted August 11, 2015 Yah... difficult when your Tier 7 keeps getting pulled into tier 10 matches that don't even have enough players to fill both teams... You're tier 7 and that's the normal range for your matchmaking. Even when more people were in the higher tiers towards the end of CBT there were plenty of 7s in the tier 10 matches I was in. Also, you're looking at it entirely wrong. Those tier 10s are worth so, so much more to you than you are to them. Damaging/sinking ships at tier 9 or 10 will give you a hell of a huge xp bonus. For instance, I was in a Tier 9 match last night that my team won in my Nagato and did only 91k damage and no kills versus tier 8s and 9s.. We had an uncontested Essex on our team that managed 8 kills who finished below me in XP. Getting matched in those games is a boost in your grind and offers you the chance to actually improve your play. So take advantage of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
251 Kaeldian Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 890 posts 2,056 battles Report post #25 Posted August 11, 2015 (edited) You're tier 7 and that's the normal range for your matchmaking. Even when more people were in the higher tiers towards the end of CBT there were plenty of 7s in the tier 10 matches I was in. Also, you're looking at it entirely wrong. Those tier 10s are worth so, so much more to you than you are to them. Damaging/sinking ships at tier 9 or 10 will give you a hell of a huge xp bonus. For instance, I was in a Tier 9 match last night that my team won in my Nagato and did only 91k damage and no kills versus tier 8s and 9s.. We had an uncontested Essex on our team that managed 8 kills who finished below me in XP. Getting matched in those games is a boost in your grind and offers you the chance to actually improve your play. So take advantage of it. You missed my point entirely......... the matches aren't even full. Not enough people have enough reason to play the upper tiers right now - so there's nobody there to even get a full game out of it. Less targets = less exp and less bigger ships for me to use as meatshields (shouldn't be taking hits in my Pensa anyway) Edited August 11, 2015 by Kaeldian Share this post Link to post Share on other sites