498 [JOLLY] Bl4ckBaron Alpha Tester 579 posts 6,287 battles Report post #1 Posted July 31, 2015 Hello all, I made this guide for my personal use because my visual memory for diagrams and graphics is so much better than for letters and text. Also, I firmly believe in condensing everything important about a subject in 1 picture. Please find the guide below. Best regards. P.S. - This is another visual guide I made about Damage: 23 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
59 [TIKI_] Lightning_Lad64 Beta Testers 504 posts 6,471 battles Report post #2 Posted July 31, 2015 I enjoy your posts, Baron. Your contributions to the community are to be commended. Thanks for this. The damage model (2nd visual) is spectacular. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
498 [JOLLY] Bl4ckBaron Alpha Tester 579 posts 6,287 battles Report post #3 Posted July 31, 2015 I enjoy your posts, Baron. Your contributions to the community are to be commended. Thanks for this. The damage model (2nd visual) is spectacular. Thank you.. I like to make this guides for me and it would be a bit selfish not to share them with the community. Also, all feedback is welcome...they are living projects always subjected to changes. Best regards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
186 DeprivedPickle Members 250 posts 7,864 battles Report post #4 Posted July 31, 2015 Not sure when you made this you knew, but your stats on fire and flooding appear to be based on before they buffed them in 4.0. My Yamato used to take around 300 dmg per sec per fire, in the old days, which falls in line with the 0.3%. But I can assure you it is now closer to 500 damage a tick. From just using rough calculations, it is now is now closer to 0.5% of HP pool for fires and 0.6-0.7% for flooding. If you want to test with me and get exact numbers, send me a PM. have training room, montana, yamato, and friends with T10 CV to test out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
746 [LEAK] amade Beta Testers 1,686 posts 209 battles Report post #5 Posted July 31, 2015 Are you sure about the dispersion orientation? The wiki says different, though admittedly the wiki is incomplete and a WIP. Haven't seen a dev quote on it yet either. When firing at short ranges, the dispersion feels more like what the real world dispersion looks like (with several shots falling more short or long than wide). Hmm, I think there's a way to test this properly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
115 Jagdfan Beta Testers 583 posts 7,478 battles Report post #6 Posted July 31, 2015 +1 Nice post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
746 [LEAK] amade Beta Testers 1,686 posts 209 battles Report post #7 Posted July 31, 2015 Not sure when you made this you knew, but your stats on fire and flooding appear to be based on before they buffed them in 4.0. My Yamato used to take around 300 dmg per sec per fire, in the old days, which falls in line with the 0.3%. But I can assure you it is now closer to 500 damage a tick. From just using rough calculations, it is now is now closer to 0.5% of HP pool for fires and 0.6-0.7% for flooding. If you want to test with me and get exact numbers, send me a PM. have training room, montana, yamato, and friends with T10 CV to test out. The damage you see in-game is actually dealt every 2 seconds. His visual guide lists it for every 1 sec. And yes, I tested them in training rooms very recently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
605 Mourneblade Alpha Tester 2,410 posts 2,897 battles Report post #8 Posted July 31, 2015 Great post and solid work as usual Baron Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
498 [JOLLY] Bl4ckBaron Alpha Tester 579 posts 6,287 battles Report post #9 Posted July 31, 2015 Thank you for the nice feedback. Not sure when you made this you knew, but your stats on fire and flooding appear to be based on before they buffed them in 4.0. My Yamato used to take around 300 dmg per sec per fire, in the old days, which falls in line with the 0.3%. But I can assure you it is now closer to 500 damage a tick. From just using rough calculations, it is now is now closer to 0.5% of HP pool for fires and 0.6-0.7% for flooding. If you want to test with me and get exact numbers, send me a PM. have training room, montana, yamato, and friends with T10 CV to test out. Thank you very much DeprivedPickle for the offer. As I said, for the damage guide I used information from a lot of sources and one of them was amade, as I acknowledge. On my guide the damage is per second, in-game is every 2 seconds. The damage you see in-game is actually dealt every 2 seconds. His visual guide lists it for every 1 sec. And yes, I tested them in training rooms very recently. Thank you amade for the clarification and support. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
498 [JOLLY] Bl4ckBaron Alpha Tester 579 posts 6,287 battles Report post #10 Posted July 31, 2015 Are you sure about the dispersion orientation? The wiki says different, though admittedly the wiki is incomplete and a WIP. Haven't seen a dev quote on it yet either. When firing at short ranges, the dispersion feels more like what the real world dispersion looks like (with several shots falling more short or long than wide). Hmm, I think there's a way to test this properly. amade, for the dispersion orientation and shell distribution I used my game observation plus the information of this blog article: http://blog.worldofwarships.ru/shells/ I did not expanded about the dispersion of BB guns up until 5 km because I think the actual model is different from the overall dispersion model in order to add extra survivability to smaller ships at close range. I think that destroyers and cruisers use the overall dispersion model with minimum (zero) dispersion at zero distance and maximum dispersion at maximum range. BB's just get an artificial increase in dispersion under 5 km range but I am not able yet to figure out the exact model. Anyway, in the blog post the author reveleas that WG is testing a new dispersion model for BB's under 5 km range. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
24 [AK] Rabbican Beta Testers 252 posts 14,896 battles Report post #11 Posted July 31, 2015 Looking forward to the new improved BB dispersion model and thank you for the guide Bl4ckBaron. I still learn things about this game after thousands of games thanks to players like you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
37 Fruta_mala Members 116 posts 9,263 battles Report post #12 Posted September 27, 2015 Wow Baron. Well done indeed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
498 [JOLLY] Bl4ckBaron Alpha Tester 579 posts 6,287 battles Report post #13 Posted September 27, 2015 Wow Baron. Well done indeed. Thank you.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Jinto1980 Beta Testers 6 posts 369 battles Report post #14 Posted September 27, 2015 Thanks for the info. i totally used the info for he aiming, and just finished a game where i did 43k he damage and 39k fire damage. Might nickname my Kuma 'aka kaze' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
605 Mourneblade Alpha Tester 2,410 posts 2,897 battles Report post #15 Posted September 27, 2015 Dispersion in game is actually like the Real World Dispersion Model you have as verified by mapping shell splashes.. just FYI... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
26 [SNS] Whiski Members 148 posts 6,055 battles Report post #16 Posted September 27, 2015 Excellent post mate. Very informative. +1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
498 [JOLLY] Bl4ckBaron Alpha Tester 579 posts 6,287 battles Report post #17 Posted September 27, 2015 Excellent post mate. Very informative. +1 Thanks.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
498 [JOLLY] Bl4ckBaron Alpha Tester 579 posts 6,287 battles Report post #18 Posted September 27, 2015 (edited) Edited September 27, 2015 by Bl4ckBaron Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
