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Sub captains would be the biggest whiners

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A lot of people here would be resistant to the concept of subs. Understandable. However, if they were balanced with other ships, seriously consider it:

 

All but the highest tier submaries would be extremely slow. They'd have to stay on the surface to have any decent mobility, making them easy prey for many surface vessels and aircraft.


 

If subs were introduced, then DDs would certainly get antisub measures (hydrophones, depth charges) along with probably antisub planes/loadouts (an excellent use for a ship like the Bogue).


 

Submarines would be slow, vulnerable, and relegated to camping control points and choke points. Destroyers would easily be able to chase them down.

 

 

 

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I can see that...submarines themselves being slow, without the other weaknesses, would be enough to cause rage and complaints, everything else? ...well...its going to be noisy. 

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Subs would be the arty of WoWS.

 

No, because Destroyers would nullify the hell out of them.

 

That's my whole point. They're too slow to reliably get into position to use their torpedoes. Destroyers would chase them all down.

 

 

I think in that sense they should have had Submarines, since they would be so easily countered.

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Subs would be the arty of WoWS. 

 

Never would be close. They'd be chased emergency deep till forced up, where they'd be rekt by anything in view range.

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No, because Destroyers would nullify the hell out of them.

 

That's my whole point. They're too slow to reliably get into position to use their torpedoes. Destroyers would chase them all down.

 

 

I think in that sense they should have had Submarines, since they would be so easily countered.

 

As a DD captain I wouldn't want to spend my game hunting subs. I don't think a lot of other DD captains would. And with four or five DDs maximum on a team, how are they supposed to cover the whole map? What you are suggestion would rely on the one thing you will really never get: teamwork.

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OK... how many battles can people name were subs were major a factor?  Since this game is about fleet action, how would they fit in?

 

Ask yourself, if they were implemented with their realistic flank speed, what would they do besides camp base?

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Never would be close. They'd be chased emergency deep till forced up, where they'd be rekt by anything in view range.

 

Which means they would be broken, if they are so easily countered. Balancing them would be hard much like arty in its current form. 

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Submarines already basically exist in WoWS.

 

They're called Japanese Destroyers.

 

* Bad guns.

 

* Good torpedoes.

 

* Hard to spot.

 

* Die easily to cruisers and destroyers if detected.

 

* Vulnerable to being spotted and attacked by aircraft, especially on the way to an attack.

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Subs are already in the game, they are just called IJN destroyers. Except for rather than 9 knots and cumbersome while submerged and can only aim by turning the ship, you go 35 knots, turn on a dime, and can aim torps over a wide arc.

 

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As a DD captain I wouldn't want to spend my game hunting subs. I don't think a lot of other DD captains would. And with four or five DDs maximum on a team, how are they supposed to cover the whole map? What you are suggestion would rely on the one thing you will really never get: teamwork.

 

This.

 

I play mostly DDs, and last thing I want to do is hunt subs. 

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This.

 

I play mostly DDs, and last thing I want to do is hunt subs. 

 

then you must hate USN DD because all they can really do until tier 8 is hunt subs (IJN destroyers).

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then you must hate USN DD because all they can really do until tier 8 is hunt subs (IJN destroyers).

 

That's crap. Best ambush ships in the game are the Clemson and Nicholas. Find a nice island to orbit, wait for some idiot to blunder into range then crush him with 12 torps.

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That's crap. Best ambush ships in the game are the Clemson and Nicholas. Find a nice island to orbit, wait for some idiot to blunder into range then crush him with 12 torps.

 

Relying on your enemies being imbeciles is not a reliable strategy when sometimes you face off against non imbeciles.

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then you must hate USN DD because all they can really do until tier 8 is hunt subs (IJN destroyers).

 

Going up both DD lines, and currently like USN DDs. Good guns to support your team with. And torps to punish inexperienced enemies. Hunting IJN is just part of their duties. 

 

 

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Relying on your enemies being imbeciles is not a reliable strategy when sometimes you face off against non imbeciles.

 

Hell even if I don't have to rely on them being imbeciles, just find a nice channel and orbit. Along with taking pot shots, you can effectively close off a section of the map by being there.

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You all have lost your minds if you think WG would make them slow and cumbersome.  When subs come to this game, stand by.

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You all have lost your minds if you think WG would make them slow and cumbersome.  When subs come to this game, stand by.

 

That is what has me worried about subs. WG had to really warp how arty actually worked to fit it in WoT, which lead to a broken mechanic. I see subs going that route. 

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