Russian style negotiations

[_Zurk_]

Remember kiddies in soviet russia nobody wins.

be grateful to get a gold ship which will be nerfed shortly and removed from the prem store.

 

[WarFalcon1]

Remember kiddies in soviet russia nobody wins.

be grateful to get a gold ship which will be nerfed shortly and removed from the prem store.

 

 

But they can't nerf it. Its a Russian ship, that would be heresy. Russian navy 2 strong.

[Sabrechien]

Soviet Russia dissolved back in 1989.

 

[Moksie]

Soviet Russia dissolved back in 1989.

 

 

We were just bemoaning our education system earlier also.

I bet Palin can still see Soviet Russia....

[Sal_T_jr]

in russia who has most vodka wins

[Brave_Sir_Robin_]

You can't really blame them.  When you grow up under communism, have to wait in line for everything, and "customer service" is an unknown concept, you never develop the skills needed to function in a capitalist economy.

 

They see themselves as the commisars, and we are the unwashed masses lining up for a (very diluted) bottle of vodka.  No matter how much they screw with us, we will always be back.

[Sabrechien]

 

We were just bemoaning our education system earlier also.

 

#evolutionmyth.

You haven't seen how the northeast reacted to PARCC.

[Moksie]

You can't really blame them.  When you grow up under communism, have to wait in line for everything, and "customer service" is an unknown concept, you never develop the skills needed to function in a capitalist economy.

 

Greed? Low morals?  Willingness to lie and steal and break the law? What skills would these be?

[Red_Raven_168]

 

Greed? Low morals?  Willingness to lie and steal and break the law? What skills would these be?

 

job requirements for higher government??

[Mudman24]

 

But they can't nerf it. Its a Russian ship, that would be heresy. Russian navy 2 strong.

Actually it was an American ship originally.  They will change it to the US tech tree for historical accuracy and then nerf it.  

[Sabrechien]

 

Greed? Low morals?  Willingness to lie and steal and break the law? What skills would these be?

 

More like short-sightedness and a willingness to drop to using inflammatory lexicon. Gee when you frame this entire thing as a U.S vs. Communism thing, it really gives me the shivers. I thought McCarthyism wasn't a thing anymore.

[WarFalcon1]

Actually it was an American ship originally.  They will change it to the US tech tree for historical accuracy and then nerf it.  

 

But then its just an Omaha.....

[Brave_Sir_Robin_]

 

Greed? Low morals?  Willingness to lie and steal and break the law? What skills would these be?

 

I think you have your capitalism and communism mixed up.  Capitalism is a system based on voluntary exchange.  Communism operates on theft and lies.  Both have a degree of greed and criminality, but that has more to do with human nature than either system.

[Moksie]

 

I think you have your capitalism and communism mixed up.  Capitalism is a system based on voluntary exchange.  Communism operates on theft and lies.  Both have a degree of greed and criminality, but that has more to do with human nature than either system.

 

Explain Halliburton....  Explain Blackwater.....  Explain record oil company profits while we lost our homes and jobs?

or does war profiteering fit into the capitalism scheme without any issues?

[Brave_Sir_Robin_]

 

Explain Halliburton....  Explain Blackwater.....  Explain record oil company profits while we lost our homes and jobs?

 

They used the government to line their pockets at everyone else's expense.  That is corruption, and every economic system has it.

[Moksie]

That is quite true it is corruption, I'm glad you see this also.

sorry not trying to create a fuss.

[Sabrechien]

 

(everything you said)

 

The issue with your dialectic is that it rests on caricatures of both capitalism and communism. Using stereotypes as the premise of an argument suggests an ignorance of the subject that really discredits you intellectually. I'm saying this because the fundamental flaw of communism was that it was inflexible and inefficient. Corruption would be about equal in both capitalism and communism (corruption is more dependent on the state rather than the economic system in place), but in terms of labor incentives and management, capitalism is works with human nature more effectively. Communism failed because it was actually too centralized an economic system to react to changes in the economy.

 

Now that I said that, I'll just say now that Russia is currently under a capitalist system in line with the rest of the world. This is public knowledge. "Capitalism vs communism" is an increasingly irrelevant dichotomy, if that is the angle you are going for.

[Brave_Sir_Robin_]

 

 

The issue with your dialectic is that it rests on caricatures of both capitalism and communism. Using stereotypes as the premise of an argument suggests an ignorance of the subject that really discredits you intellectually. I'm saying this because the fundamental flaw of communism was that it was inflexible and inefficient. Corruption would be about equal in both capitalism and communism (corruption is more dependent on the state rather than the economic system in place), but in terms of labor incentives and management, capitalism is works with human nature more effectively. Communism failed because it was actually too centralized an economic system to react to changes in the economy.

 

Now that I said that, I'll just say now that Russia is currently under a capitalist system in line with the rest of the world. This is public knowledge. "Capitalism vs communism" is an increasingly irrelevant dichotomy, if that is the angle you are going for.

 

Neither Russia nor the United States have a strictly capitalist economy.  Both have mixed economies, with elements of capitalism and socialism.

 

Capitalism and Communism are ideas, and can never be perfectly implemented.  But I think we can come to some conclusions on these ideas based on the attempts that have been made to implement them.

[Kamaitachi_Mio]

 

[von_Krimm]

 

Explain Halliburton....  Explain Blackwater.....  Explain record oil company profits while we lost our homes and jobs?

or does war profiteering fit into the capitalism scheme without any issues?

 

just a quick note here: capitalism is a neither more moral or amoral than communism; an economic system does not have an inherent "code of ethical conduct", the ethics in an economic system are either derived from the state, or from the individual firms in the economic system, or a combination of both. 

[Moksie]

 

 

Neither Russia nor the United States have a strictly capitalist economy.  Both have mixed economies, with elements of capitalism and socialism.

 

Capitalism and Communism are ideas, and can never be perfectly implemented.  But I think we can come to some conclusions on these ideas based on the attempts that have been made to implement them.

 

Quite so we have regulations in place to protect people.  Or we do until deregulation, or when the law is not heeded.  I lived in 2 states that deregulated, and watched the price of heating fuel and electricity go up over 150% in 3 years.

[Brave_Sir_Robin_]

 

Quite so we have regulations in place to protect people.  Or we do until deregulation, or when the law is not heeded.  I lived in 2 states that deregulated, and watched the price of heating fuel and electricity go up over 150% in 3 years.

 

If we cannot control, or even measure, all of the variables within an economy, how can we arrive at the conclusion that deregulation caused the increase in energy prices?

[Patriot_games_1]

Arguing politics over pixels in a game.. Shakes head..

[Moksie]

Hey go deflate some balls eh?

[Brave_Sir_Robin_]

 

just a quick note here: capitalism is a neither more moral or amoral than communism; an economic system does not have an inherent "code of ethical conduct", the ethics in an economic system are either derived from the state, or from the individual firms in the economic system, or a combination of both. 

 

Morality and ethics are not the same thing.