7 Ludacris55 Members 3 posts 277 battles Report post #1 Posted June 5, 2015 (edited) so i heard in an upcoming patch to go open beta, that all stats will be reset and we will have to re-grind everything we ever done.. so we paid money just for it to be taken away from us?, im not ok with that unless we are going to receive proper compensation equivalent to the amount of stats we have and what we have done, such as paid for a premium account and bought all the premium ships, and grinded/ paid for other ships doesn't that at least seem more reasonable than blatantly taking everything we ever done and throwing it out the window like it never happened? Edited June 5, 2015 by Ludacris55 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
165 NWGIX Beta Testers 390 posts 4,066 battles Report post #2 Posted June 5, 2015 It's been stated many many many many many times that when open beta comes along we will all be compensated properly for all of our progress Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7 Ludacris55 Members 3 posts 277 battles Report post #3 Posted June 5, 2015 that's not what i heard, supposedly they are but i was told you will get the minimal possible out of the compensation, like only free premium days for the premium days you spent idk something stupid like that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,545 [GWG] BrushWolf [GWG] Alpha Tester 29,406 posts 15,834 battles Report post #4 Posted June 5, 2015 (edited) Closed to open will be a wipe. We will get any pre-orders and tokens/dabloons and premium time refunded for certain. I think there will be something like WoWP did from open to live with all experience earned applied to our starter ship captains. Edited June 5, 2015 by BrushWolf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
366 Mulletproof Beta Testers 1,136 posts 4,017 battles Report post #5 Posted June 5, 2015 I'm fine with wiping the stats. The last beta I played that promised not to hard wipe went down in flames as it struggled between changing gameplay values and appeasing veterans in order to keep their promise. It was great that they kept the promise and didn't wipe, but horribly restricted their ability to develope the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
32 JimmyJimboJimBob Beta Testers 210 posts 5,347 battles Report post #6 Posted June 5, 2015 In WoWP they did a wipe once where we got all of our exp earned as free exp and reset everything. They didn't do it when they went from closed to open but it was pretty cool. That would be nice but it's not gonna happen. WG announced a long time ago what their intentions were. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5 StevenKing_hero Beta Testers 1 post 967 battles Report post #7 Posted June 5, 2015 They shouldn't take away any of the crapyou grinded for. It's not fair that you spend time and waste YOUR premium days grinding on battleships and whatnot just so the devs can take it all away from you so that some kiddie noobs who jump into the game will feel better and whatnot. It's really not funny or fair. Let eh people who paid keep what they grinded for. If you are new tough luck 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
91 F1zzzy90908 Beta Testers 312 posts 43 battles Report post #8 Posted June 5, 2015 (edited) They shouldn't take away any of the crapyou grinded for. It's not fair that you spend time and waste YOUR premium days grinding on battleships and whatnot just so the devs can take it all away from you so that some kiddie noobs who jump into the game will feel better and whatnot. It's really not funny or fair. Let eh people who paid keep what they grinded for. If you are new tough luck That is the stupidest thing I've read all day. A closed beta is not there for you to get a head start over everyone else, it is there for you to find the major bugs which still plague the game before going into open beta. Everything which you have spent during closed beta (premium days, gold, etc...) will be refunded to you at the start of open beta, so you did not "waste" anything.... Edited June 5, 2015 by F1zzzy90908 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
237 [AP0C] GRB_Duck Beta Testers 442 posts 2,670 battles Report post #9 Posted June 5, 2015 so i heard in an upcoming patch to go open beta, that all stats will be reset and we will have to re-grind everything we ever done.. so we paid money just for it to be taken away from us?, im not ok with that unless we are going to receive proper compensation equivalent to the amount of stats we have and what we have done, such as paid for a premium account and bought all the premium ships, and grinded/ paid for other ships doesn't that at least seem more reasonable than blatantly taking everything we ever done and throwing it out the window like it never happened? In your post, you reference WE and US, eight times. You are not even a beta tester but just a forum member. You have no dog in this fight, why are you upset? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,545 [GWG] BrushWolf [GWG] Alpha Tester 29,406 posts 15,834 battles Report post #10 Posted June 5, 2015 They shouldn't take away any of the crapyou grinded for. It's not fair that you spend time and waste YOUR premium days grinding on battleships and whatnot just so the devs can take it all away from you so that some kiddie noobs who jump into the game will feel better and whatnot. It's really not funny or fair. Let eh people who paid keep what they grinded for. If you are new tough luck This is closed, well semi closed and really open because of the pre-orders, beta. What part of testing do you not understand? You will get your pre-orders back come open so you are losing nothing and will still have an advantage over those that are not in the testing, experience. In your post, you reference WE and US, eight times. You are not even a beta tester but just a forum member. You have no dog in this fight, why are you upset? EU tester on the wrong forum maybe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,661 Macabe Alpha Tester, Members, In AlfaTesters, Beta Testers 12,413 posts Report post #11 Posted June 5, 2015 (edited) I could care less if i get compensation. If i do, that's great. If i don't, whatever, i didn't want it in the first place. It's been stated many many many many many times that when open beta comes along we will all be compensated properly for all of our progress Source? or are you referring to the beta ship? StevenKing_hero, on 05 June 2015 - 11:20 AM, said: They shouldn't take away any of the crapyou grinded for. It's not fair that you spend time and waste YOUR premium days grinding on battleships and whatnot just so the devs can take it all away from you so that some kiddie noobs who jump into the game will feel better and whatnot. It's really not funny or fair. Let eh people who paid keep what they grinded for. If you are new tough luck Wow. *insert facepalm* Edited June 5, 2015 by Macabe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,109 Red_Raven_168 Alpha Tester 17,510 posts Report post #12 Posted June 5, 2015 that's not what i heard contact your source for clarification. official posts in http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/forum/93-announcements/ clearly state your source is not one of quality Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
184 ajapanzer5 Beta Testers 797 posts 85 battles Report post #13 Posted June 5, 2015 They shouldn't take away any of the crapyou grinded for. It's not fair that you spend time and waste YOUR premium days grinding on battleships and whatnot just so the devs can take it all away from you so that some kiddie noobs who jump into the game will feel better and whatnot. It's really not funny or fair. Let eh people who paid keep what they grinded for. If you are new tough luck Wow, such a selfish elitist prick. On a lighter note, WG will probably compensate whatever we lost with credits and a special ship. They did it at the end of alpha testing. As for gold & premium time, I will bet my soul that it will be given back to you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
286 [-B-Z-] Bravo_Zulu_000 Alpha Tester 715 posts 4,225 battles Report post #14 Posted June 5, 2015 (edited) so i heard in an upcoming patch to go open beta, that all stats will be reset and we will have to re-grind everything we ever done.. so we paid money just for it to be taken away from us?, im not ok with that unless we are going to receive proper compensation equivalent to the amount of stats we have and what we have done, such as paid for a premium account and bought all the premium ships, and grinded/ paid for other ships doesn't that at least seem more reasonable than blatantly taking everything we ever done and throwing it out the window like it never happened? So.... you know you're playing a game in closed beta testing right? Many of us here were chosen to be testers and then they opened the pre-orders and allowed anyone to have access. Being allowed in CBT and having access to that content prior to OBT release is actually allowing you to eat your cake and have it too. Obviously you have no clue that by accessing a CBT you agreed to the conditions of being a tester (which as a best practice usually involves one or more account wipes), not a player of a released title. I suggest next time you actually read what is entailed in participating in any software test before you put money down. It will avoid the disappointment you obviously seem to be experiencing and will save the community involved from being exposed to your obvious entitlement issues. As to compensation, you get back all the gold you spend in CBT as well as the pre-order ships and premium time when the game goes to OBT. Add to it you got access to the game early so you have an advantage over those who will start when OBT starts and depending on how many games you've played you will also get a Beta reward ship that only Beta players receive. That is your "compensation". Otherwise, if you consider playing this game "grinding", perhaps it's more of a job than a game and you should really play something else. if you consider playing a game "grinding", perhaps it's more work than fun for you and you should consider playing something else. Edited June 5, 2015 by Bravo_Zulu_000 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
270 [BS] Pyrofiend Alpha Tester 586 posts 1,053 battles Report post #15 Posted June 5, 2015 You get all real-life money that you spent in closed beta refunded for in-game value. All premium days you bought with real money will be given back to you at the start of open beta. All gold that you spent will be returned at the start of open beta. All premium ships that you bought will still be there in open beta. All free exp that you bought with real-life money will be there in open beta. All stats, experience, and progress will be reset/wiped. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
37 Evocoot Beta Testers 212 posts Report post #16 Posted June 5, 2015 We get everything we paid for plus likely a free ship. Not sure what the issue is. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,545 [GWG] BrushWolf [GWG] Alpha Tester 29,406 posts 15,834 battles Report post #17 Posted June 5, 2015 We get everything we paid for plus likely a free ship. Not sure what the issue is. Someone treating testing like it is the live game. /shrug Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7 Ludacris55 Members 3 posts 277 battles Report post #18 Posted June 6, 2015 (edited) In your post, you reference WE and US, eight times. You are not even a beta tester but just a forum member. You have no dog in this fight, why are you upset? the referencing to WE and US is to all the beta testers who worked to get progress in the game. So.... you know you're playing a game in closed beta testing right? Many of us here were chosen to be testers and then they opened the pre-orders and allowed anyone to have access. Being allowed in CBT and having access to that content prior to OBT release is actually allowing you to eat your cake and have it too. Obviously you have no clue that by accessing a CBT you agreed to the conditions of being a tester (which as a best practice usually involves one or more account wipes), not a player of a released title. I suggest next time you actually read what is entailed in participating in any software test before you put money down. It will avoid the disappointment you obviously seem to be experiencing and will save the community involved from being exposed to your obvious entitlement issues. As to compensation, you get back all the gold you spend in CBT as well as the pre-order ships and premium time when the game goes to OBT. Add to it you got access to the game early so you have an advantage over those who will start when OBT starts and depending on how many games you've played you will also get a Beta reward ship that only Beta players receive. That is your "compensation". Otherwise, if you consider playing this game "grinding", perhaps it's more of a job than a game and you should really play something else. if you consider playing a game "grinding", perhaps it's more work than fun for you and you should consider playing something else. you are a complete gaming scrub if you bring the term ''grinding'' into the derogatory category, im just a little pissed off that i have to do everything i ever done over again, i know its a beta and its supposed to be clearing out bugs but what ever freaking happened to the policy where companys test their crap to the point where there are no bugs and THEN they release the near end open beta so actual players can get in the nook and crannys to get the really small bugs, AND keep their suff when it goes full release? Edited June 6, 2015 by Ludacris55 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,109 Red_Raven_168 Alpha Tester 17,510 posts Report post #19 Posted June 6, 2015 AND keep their suff when it goes full release? sorry not this company's policy so move along Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
37 Evocoot Beta Testers 212 posts Report post #20 Posted June 6, 2015 I think the releasing of complete games ended about the time games starting coming with endless add-ons. Used to be games were only really updated for unfounded bugs, now we expect new stuff all the time. Thinking it was around the first big mmos like Dark Ages and EQ maybe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
469 [-JEDI] Mr_Alex Alpha Tester 2,667 posts 8,571 battles Report post #21 Posted June 6, 2015 What happens to people who have brought the Warspite? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4 [PIRAT] graytip Beta Testers 27 posts 6,343 battles Report post #22 Posted June 6, 2015 What happens to people who have brought the Warspite? Points at above Quote....Not buying it if I don't get to keep it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
184 ajapanzer5 Beta Testers 797 posts 85 battles Report post #23 Posted June 6, 2015 the referencing to WE and US is to all the beta testers who worked to get progress in the game. you are a complete gaming scrub if you bring the term ''grinding'' into the derogatory category, im just a little pissed off that i have to do everything i ever done over again, i know its a beta and its supposed to be clearing out bugs but what ever freaking happened to the policy where companys test their crap to the point where there are no bugs and THEN they release the near end open beta so actual players can get in the nook and crannys to get the really small bugs, AND keep their suff when it goes full release? Umm, but good sir, *points to forum tag* it says here you are a member. Do you know what that means? Either you're posting from a second account, or you aren't a beta tester. And if you aren't a beta tester none of this applies to you and you may resume living whatever happy life you may have. Furthermore, he never stated grinding was a derogatory term, he was saying that if you don't enjoy working up through the tiers, then maybe you should go back to whatever happy life you may have. As for keeping your stuff, that is a blatant NO! You will probably be compensated with a decent sum of credits, and a bit of free xp. Be happy with that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
344 [WOLF4] LieutenantJebStewart Beta Testers 381 posts 26,354 battles Report post #24 Posted June 6, 2015 Never planned on doing any commenting on the forums, but.....sometimes people just can't see the forest for the trees! All you have to do is look around a little at how many people are begging to get into CBT, to understand how fortunate we all are to be part of this early testing. First off, we actually....might....have a useful say in the game development. Nobody can wipe that. If you've spent real money, WG has said you'll be compensated, so no worries there. As far as the wipe....no big deal. Why? Because WE now have all of that pre-gained knowledge and insight of the game that newbies at OBT are gonna be scratching their heads over for awhile......before they too get the hang of things. So look at it this way, as far as a wipe and start over.....think of your stats, as a veteran of CBT.....while your flying through some "grind" and FEASTING on all the OBT newbies! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,106 [ERN] MajorRenegade Alpha Tester, Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters, Beta Testers 10,906 posts 4,896 battles Report post #25 Posted June 6, 2015 They shouldn't take away any of the crapyou grinded for. It's not fair that you spend time and waste YOUR premium days grinding on battleships and whatnot just so the devs can take it all away from you so that some kiddie noobs who jump into the game will feel better and whatnot. It's really not funny or fair. Let eh people who paid keep what they grinded for. If you are new tough luck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites