Sorry War Gaming

[donaldEpott]

Sorry Wargaming i am not going to buy your premium junk anymore. I just went to world of tanks to play some and with Premium ammo making all the premium tanks I bought there worthless and HE rounds here making BB armor worthless I just dont see the point of spending any more money on your premium junk addons. Premium time yes but premium tanks, ships and aircraft are just absolutly junk.

[donaldEpott]

Ohh a minus one makes you think that will change my mind... still junk.

[Edsgarth]

Dont worry donald, I gave you one too so the first wouldnt be lonely

[donaldEpott]

Oh you hurt my feelings. I still think they are junk.

[powerkilroy]

I didn't downvote you or anything for the record, but my guess as to why you were downvoted was by people who have been on these forums for a long time and those that have come over from WOT forums. Over here most of the people on the forums can be displeased with Wargaming, but they don't generally go making a forum post slandering them unless its something huge that everyone else agrees on (gunlions promise for CBT release date for one). We're trying to create a community that isn't toxic and everyone has fun. Now does that mean you can't voice your opinion? No you can clearly voice your opinion just like I can with this post, but the point is you can voice your opinion in a better way then just going and slandering Wargaming. An idea would be instead of the post you just said, try something along the lines of how you think its "broken" and give solutions for them to fix it. Also posting this at this time of night their not going to see it and they never will see it by tomorrow morning with all the other posts, so if you want a better way of voicing your opinion where a developer or somebody at Wargaming will see it try posting it in the morning/afternoon. Again not being mean just giving some constructive criticism.

 

-Powerkilroy

[Edsgarth]

I thought he was just farming for down vote's.

 

1,356 posts.. I thought he might have actually read and absorbed some background info on WG products.

 

My mistake if he was posting seriously.

[donaldEpott]

Spend money on a tank that proves useless in battle in WOT and yes I am serious about being mad about it. Premium rounds used to be a Clan wars only thing that was bought with Gold and now its bought by credits. Everyone and their dog are spamming it in WOT leaving most of what was heavy armored tanks at a bad disadvantage. those rounds were rare in WW2 and they have served only to ruin the game. Now here we have HE ignoring armor just like its APCR and seems like WG just profits off a broken product. I voiced this with polls and other in WOT and just get this very treatment. I bought those tanks knowing they had greater armor and to what? just get destroyed by tanks spamming APCR and Heat. was a WW2 game and it spread to tanks used in Vietnam. Yes I Bought about 10 differant tanks for their armor and firepower just to have all that nullified and I through all that cash at the game just to have it become worthless. Yes I am pissed about it. Dosesnt mean that I am going to leave but it does mean that I am going to voice it here so wargaming can read how outraged I am... Just like you are offended that I voice it here. Hows about I voice it at Facebook instead?

[Moksie]

Shouldn't you be QQ'ing on the WoT forum instead?  Ya sure Facebook works, I don't use that.

[4reversegears]

Honestly, premium tanks by and large are only good for training crews and farming credits.  Most of them aren't as good in battle as a fully researched non-premium tank of the same tier.  You don't need to have a premium tank (or ship) to have fun playing the game - I wouldn't have any premium ships except I had to buy in to get CBT access, and even then I went cheap as possible with the Yubari.  Also remember that WOWS is in development so HE spam may be corrected in a later patch.  But meantime, by all means save your money for premium time, if you want to spend any money at all.

[powerkilroy]

Spend money on a tank that proves useless in battle in WOT and yes I am serious about being mad about it. Premium rounds used to be a Clan wars only thing that was bought with Gold and now its bought by credits. Everyone and their dog are spamming it in WOT leaving most of what was heavy armored tanks at a bad disadvantage. those rounds were rare in WW2 and they have served only to ruin the game. Now here we have HE ignoring armor just like its APCR and seems like WG just profits off a broken product. I voiced this with polls and other in WOT and just get this very treatment. I bought those tanks knowing they had greater armor and to what? just get destroyed by tanks spamming APCR and Heat. was a WW2 game and it spread to tanks used in Vietnam. Yes I Bought about 10 differant tanks for their armor and firepower just to have all that nullified and I through all that cash at the game just to have it become worthless. Yes I am pissed about it. Dosesnt mean that I am going to leave but it does mean that I am going to voice it here so wargaming can read how outraged I am... Just like you are offended that I voice it here. Hows about I voice it at Facebook instead?

 

First off this is a GAME that is in BETA. Secondly you say " Everyone and their dog are spamming it in WOT leaving most of what was heavy armored tanks at a bad disadvantage. those rounds were rare in WW2 and they have served only to ruin the game" and I say to that its a GAME also so what if someone is spamming gold rounds shouldn't you as a player either learn to play either better or smarter and use the disadvantages to gold rounds? Yes there are disadvantages such as APCR is easy to bounce with angling and HESH is crap against space armor. Now some tanks don't have either of those so then it turns to brain power. Next you say "Now here we have HE ignoring armor just like its APCR and seems like WG just profits off a broken product" what I have to say to that is you have no idea how bad it was before now the way I see it this is a serious upgrade to how OP HE rounds were originally and how Under Powered they were a patch ago. Also I state this again its BETA of course their going to have some balancing issues that is what Beta is for, and I can't tell you what the next patch is going to be about but trust me their will be balancing issues that "should" be fixed. I say "should" because somebody else is going to be making a post very similar to this on how they have to re-balance the thing they just balanced. Thirdly you say " was a WW2 game and it spread to tanks used in Vietnam" so what I have to say to this is most of the WW2 tanks have already been made. Sure they had different variations, but I don't want a flamethrower sherman fighting a sherman with a big hoe in front of it. Of course their going further into MBT's, but so far they haven't made the AMX 30 and Leopard 1 as powerful as they should be.  Finally you say "Hows about I voice it at Facebook instead" I could honestly care less where you tell Wargaming your opinion, but what I suggest is make it more nicer instead of just slander; because like you say "they just want our money" aren't going to care about your post since their racking in so much money. With that I bid you good night.

 

-Powerkilroy

[WanderingGhost]

1: Yes, they made them for credits, because otherwise, only the ones winning contests or clan wars or paying money for gold would sling them.

2. Is it easier to punch through, yes, guaranteed, no, my bloody scout tanks have bounce heat spam from a WZ-111 and even a top gunned IS-3. Certain angles still bounce anything, even when I've resorted to the handful of rounds I usually have for emergency on my tiger 2 have either bounced or not even penned.

3.How exactly does gold spam make your premium tanks worthless? They exist to earn extra credits and train crew, it's not like they are meant for auto win op power, and at that point, the way they make credits, sling gold back if it's that much an issue.

4. They are tryingto figure out the gold round "issue" at this point, theres not exactly an easy solution there

5. They are aware of the issues with HE, they are working on the issues with HE, it's a closed beta test, not everything will be perfectly balanced, the point is to tune it before open beta/live launch, things will be unbalanced when they make changes, it is inevitable, patience grasshopper.

[TxSasquatch09]

Sorry Wargaming i am not going to buy your premium junk anymore. I just went to world of tanks to play some and with Premium ammo making all the premium tanks I bought there worthless and HE rounds here making BB armor worthless I just dont see the point of spending any more money on your premium junk addons. Premium time yes but premium tanks, ships and aircraft are just absolutly junk.

I'm sorry you feel this way but honestly good riddance to the toxic player. I stopped playing wot for that very reason . Ships how ever is awesome yes there are some querks but its in Beta its gonna happen. You need to take your hateful self someplace else . Your no longer welcome here.

[TheGrtCanadian]

I just wanted to jump in here and be part of the party...........

[donaldEpott]

I'm sorry you feel this way but honestly good riddance to the toxic player. I stopped playing wot for that very reason . Ships how ever is awesome yes there are some querks but its in Beta its gonna happen. You need to take your hateful self someplace else . Your no longer welcome here.

 

Riddance to who? Your sadly mistaken if you think I am leaving.... Read again I just stated that I am not buying Premium tanks, ships, or Aircraft which I payed my own money... Not some that mom and dad gave me.

[donaldEpott]

1: Yes, they made them for credits, because otherwise, only the ones winning contests or clan wars or paying money for gold would sling them.

2. Is it easier to punch through, yes, guaranteed, no, my bloody scout tanks have bounce heat spam from a WZ-111 and even a top gunned IS-3. Certain angles still bounce anything, even when I've resorted to the handful of rounds I usually have for emergency on my tiger 2 have either bounced or not even penned.

3.How exactly does gold spam make your premium tanks worthless? They exist to earn extra credits and train crew, it's not like they are meant for auto win op power, and at that point, the way they make credits, sling gold back if it's that much an issue.

4. They are tryingto figure out the gold round "issue" at this point, theres not exactly an easy solution there

5. They are aware of the issues with HE, they are working on the issues with HE, it's a closed beta test, not everything will be perfectly balanced, the point is to tune it before open beta/live launch, things will be unbalanced when they make changes, it is inevitable, patience grasshopper.

 

I hope they do as one it was the end of my Clan over there which I was enjoying being a part of. Its just been a major issue to me since they made them available under silver credits. to much of that going on that just makes playing it not very fun. But without complaints like mine they would do nothing.

[Calphayus]

Sorry Wargaming i am not going to buy your premium junk anymore. I just went to world of tanks to play some and with Premium ammo making all the premium tanks I bought there worthless and HE rounds here making BB armor worthless I just dont see the point of spending any more money on your premium junk addons. Premium time yes but premium tanks, ships and aircraft are just absolutly junk.

 

aaaaand you felt you needed to blast this on the forums? we really dont care what you think about the Premium stuff. if you dont like it dont buy it and stop complaining. get over it man seriously

[GermanDragon]

Spend money on a tank that proves useless in battle in WOT and yes I am serious about being mad about it. Premium rounds used to be a Clan wars only thing that was bought with Gold and now its bought by credits. Everyone and their dog are spamming it in WOT leaving most of what was heavy armored tanks at a bad disadvantage. those rounds were rare in WW2 and they have served only to ruin the game. Now here we have HE ignoring armor just like its APCR and seems like WG just profits off a broken product. I voiced this with polls and other in WOT and just get this very treatment. I bought those tanks knowing they had greater armor and to what? just get destroyed by tanks spamming APCR and Heat. was a WW2 game and it spread to tanks used in Vietnam. Yes I Bought about 10 differant tanks for their armor and firepower just to have all that nullified and I through all that cash at the game just to have it become worthless. Yes I am pissed about it. Dosesnt mean that I am going to leave but it does mean that I am going to voice it here so wargaming can read how outraged I am... Just like you are offended that I voice it here. Hows about I voice it at Facebook instead?

they could make it like WT, there EVERYBODY has the rare ap ammo. They just dont call it gold ammo. 

[gunnyhighway1]

I didn't downvote you or anything for the record, but my guess as to why you were downvoted was by people who have been on these forums for a long time and those that have come over from WOT forums. Over here most of the people on the forums can be displeased with Wargaming, but they don't generally go making a forum post slandering them unless its something huge that everyone else agrees on (gunlions promise for CBT release date for one). We're trying to create a community that isn't toxic and everyone has fun. Now does that mean you can't voice your opinion? No you can clearly voice your opinion just like I can with this post, but the point is you can voice your opinion in a better way then just going and slandering Wargaming. An idea would be instead of the post you just said, try something along the lines of how you think its "broken" and give solutions for them to fix it. Also posting this at this time of night their not going to see it and they never will see it by tomorrow morning with all the other posts, so if you want a better way of voicing your opinion where a developer or somebody at Wargaming will see it try posting it in the morning/afternoon. Again not being mean just giving some constructive criticism.

 

-Powerkilroy

 

 

This is interesting when you say that you are trying to make a community that is not toxic.

 

 

All those MMO war games have forum recreating the tribe mentality with a code based on "Shame".

 

 

To change that, you need to have an "Ethos". Since all great majority of posters are not warriors, you will never change it, and because, if warriors only would play, you would not have a game in the first place. Those toxic "shame based" forums come with the territory.

 

 

Those games primary goals are to entertain to make money, not to train for combat! 

[DrKrieg]

IS-6 junk?

 

 

heresy!

 

 

[commander_cheef]

here we go with the negative community. time to dust off this thread. (mind the cobwebs)

 

http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/25902-changing-the-negative-community-one-step-at-a-time/

[Red_Raven_168]

Shouldn't you be QQ'ing on the WoT forum instead?  Ya sure Facebook works, I don't use that.

 

but he would have to find that forum

 

maybe he got a RO for being too toxic for it

[Scotty_SE]

OP sounds like somebody who buys all premium Ships and Tanks and wants an advantage. In other words, that guy who really believes in 'pay to win' and gives those of us who run a premium now and then for fun a bad name.

 

 

 

What's stupidly funny is the Atlanta is one of the most  popular premium ships in this game and it's only effective ammo *is* HE.

 

HE nerf is inevitably coming. We all know it.

[Sturg303]

Agree with every one here.

[donaldEpott]

Agree with every one here.

 

Well fine if it pisses you all off you can all buy me someting from the premium shop if it makes you all happy.

[digie2011]

Not that the discussion really belongs here, but honestly in pubs, how common is gold slinging in WOT? When I played, I rarely used premium ammo unless it was absolutely needed or ran out of standard ammo. In regards to the HE spam, yes, it kinda sucks as a BB. Can BBs still be effective? Hell yes, especially if you stay with your team (even a single other cruiser helps immensely). Good luck in your future battles.