This is just too much WG! Ridiculous!

[USAPatriotGamer]

2 CVs and 3 subs per side at mid-tier?!

And god forbid if there were hybrids...

[_KlRlTO_]

11 minutes ago, USAPatriotGamer said:

2 CVs and 3 subs per side at mid-tier?!

And god forbid if there were hybrids...

Queue dumps don't follow the rules, but are needed to keep the server going. Outrage over queue dumps means nothing, and are merely a platform for the dramatic.

[anonym_Dt2GRUna23wG]

But it's this really a queue dump?

Both sides have balanced numbers and types.

Does not look like a queue dump to me.

[Rivyn]

I haven't had a 3 sub/2 CV in a few days, but it's common for two subs and two CVs. It just isn't fun to play against. 

[Retarie]

1 or 2 AA ships at tier 6? LOL lmbo god dude, you crack me up

[lordholland4293]

2 hours ago, USAPatriotGamer said:

2 CVs and 3 subs per side at mid-tier?!

And god forbid if there were hybrids...

Honestly not really impressive these videos only serve to kill the game more then actually helping it. Mountbatten is a great guy but his videos complain more then help, its a common trend in his videos.

[gillhunter]

29 minutes ago, lordholland4293 said:

Honestly not really impressive these videos only serve to kill the game more then actually helping it. Mountbatten is a great guy but his videos complain more then help, its a common trend in his videos.

So what should he do when WoWs gets stupid? 

[SuperComm4]

2 hours ago, _KlRlTO_ said:

Queue dumps don't follow the rules, but are needed to keep the server going. Outrage over queue dumps means nothing, and are merely a platform for the dramatic.

That was not a queue dump, I have had that occur numerous times with full 12 per side matches, and I have even had a third CV in the form of a hybrid on the other side.  Queue dumps generally have 9 or fewer ships per team.

[Ramagar_RoK]

43 minutes ago, lordholland4293 said:

Honestly not really impressive these videos only serve to kill the game more then actually helping it. Mountbatten is a great guy but his videos complain more then help, its a common trend in his videos.

Actually, one needs to point out issues if there are to be fixes.  Just ignoring it solves nothing.  That sort of game play at T6 is killing the game.  Classes of ships that NEVER have to be in peril are stupid in the extreme.  At some point people just quit being targets and go find other games that have better game play.  Seriously, I don't know of games that crap on a player base like this that survive.  TWO classes of ships (unreal) that have zero counter play.  People are smart enough to know cope-cages when they see them.  You will notice people that play these classes also are the ones claiming other people need to "git-gud".  Guys, when people tire of being targets they will move on to other games. 

[Ensign_Cthulhu]

7 minutes ago, Ramagar_RoK said:

Classes of ships that NEVER have to be in peril are stupid in the extreme.

You know carriers DO get sunk in game, right? Sometimes early, right? You HAVE heard of K-A-K CV-hunting divisions, right?

There are answers. You just need to be willing to look for them and apply them.

2 hours ago, USAPatriotGamer said:

2 CVs and 3 subs per side at mid-tier?!

Appeal to authority is the weakest argument of them all. 

[ArIskandir]

37 minutes ago, gillhunter said:

So what should he do when WoWs gets stupid? 

Building over the positive aspects? 

Teach you how to make lemonade if MM give you lemons? 

Understanding MM unbalance is a playerbase self-inflicted problem? 

But those themes don't generate outrage clicks so... 

[iDuckman]

15 minutes ago, Ramagar_RoK said:

if there are to be fixes.

What's the fix?  Tell players that they can' play the ship types that they want to play?  Realize that these matches are not gen'd up just for you.  All players must be accommodated.

[Ramagar_RoK]

53 minutes ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

You know carriers DO get sunk in game, right? Sometimes early, right? You HAVE heard of K-A-K CV-hunting divisions, right?

There are answers. You just need to be willing to look for them and apply them.

Appeal to authority is the weakest argument of them all. 

Probably one of the worst  fixes to an issue I have ever seen on the forums.  Seriously, have you ever played as single in random games?  That's like saying, "If I had the numbers to tomorrows lotto I could win!!"

[Grudge_Z]

3 hours ago, USAPatriotGamer said:

2 CVs and 3 subs per side at mid-tier?!

And god forbid if there were hybrids...

yeah it happen to me  from time to time But that's how this Game works :(

[Ensign_Cthulhu]

1 minute ago, Ramagar_RoK said:

Seriously, have you ever played as single in random games?

Yes, as a matter of fact I have - and in multiple DD lines, no less. I don't fear carriers and I don't fear subs, and I can quite possibly count the random battles divisions I've played in on one hand. At most two.

[SKurj]

don't play the game if you don't like it. or at least stop spending...

looking over at wg's successful title... it's about to take a nosedive...  not like i can't see them making further bad decisions for wows.

[LordDunselMaximus]

I ground forever for a Hannover....then they added subs. One sub takes me out so quick...I feel like an even bigger spud as a player and for buying it. The cost alone...I guess they are a dead idea anyway.

[gillhunter]

3 hours ago, ArIskandir said:

Understanding MM unbalance is a playerbase self-inflicted problem? 

 

How so?

[Capt_of_Satisfaction]

5 hours ago, lordholland4293 said:

Honestly not really impressive these videos only serve to kill the game more then actually helping it. Mountbatten is a great guy but his videos complain more then help, its a common trend in his videos.

He doesn't beat the drum all the time like Jingles and I fail to see how he serves to "kill the game."   He happens to be right, and he plays a heck of lot more Randoms than us! 

Playing 2v2 Brawls?  I am, and the queue times are pretty long for BB.  It's just reality that most people want to brawl in BBs, so you wait.  When I choose USS Black, instant starts.

[ArIskandir]

15 minutes ago, gillhunter said:

How so?

Players play the ship type they wanna play and give a damn about anything else. They don't care about what's waiting in the queue pool, they don't try to "balance" the load, they expect the game to accommodate them and everything and everyone else be damned. The game uses whatever is waiting, if the queue pool is filled with a bazillion BBs and a host of other ships that prey on BBs, what do you expect is gonna happen? 

How many CVs do you think there'll be in queue if they were to reliably expect 4-5 D7P (or equivalent AA monster)? 

How many Subs would you think there'll be if they had to deal with 3 Hydro DDs every match? 

The queue pool is a dynamic ecosystem, you as a player have the power to "play it" to your convenience, to hunt whatever the seasonal prey is and "restore balance" in an organic way. Yet most players don't even consider that notion and then complain about the environment they themselves are shaping. 

[gillhunter]

1 hour ago, ArIskandir said:

The queue pool is a dynamic ecosystem, you as a player have the power to "play it" to your convenience, to hunt whatever the seasonal prey is and "restore balance" in an organic way. Yet most players don't even consider that notion and then complain about the environment they themselves are shaping. 

If deer hunters would only harvest in a way that didn't put the deer population at risk we wouldn't need a hunting season and the rules that go along with it.

If people fishing would only harvest in a way that didn't put the fish population at risk we wouldn't needs seasons, length, and bag limits. 

Ain't going to happen. And it won't happen in this game. That's what we need a MM for.

Love it. Someone put down their crayons and decided to comment.

[Pugilistic]

If I recall correctly, WG once failed to express any qualms about 3 CVs per side as a matter of course until there was a major firestorm, I don’t recall seeing a 3 CV game in quite a while but I don’t think there is a hard cap. So I doubt they are dismayed by 3 subs per side.  

Possibly working as expected. 

[ArIskandir]

10 minutes ago, gillhunter said:

Ain't going to happen. And it won't happen in this game. That's what we need a MM for.

We already have a MM. I hunt whatever the seasonal prey is and it works just as expected. As I said, this is a self-inflicted player issue, you can "undo it" the moment you want. 

[lordholland4293]

1 hour ago, Capt_of_Satisfaction said:

He doesn't beat the drum all the time like Jingles and I fail to see how he serves to "kill the game."   He happens to be right, and he plays a heck of lot more Randoms than us! 

Playing 2v2 Brawls?  I am, and the queue times are pretty long for BB.  It's just reality that most people want to brawl in BBs, so you wait.  When I choose USS Black, instant starts.

I know jingles does, but jingles has a hilarious side also so it is flip coin, Mountbatten just complains but that is my personal opinion and what I observe, like saying Perth killed a whole clan season, hardly that's called a meta, like when it was one cv and 6 venzias 

[gillhunter]

5 minutes ago, ArIskandir said:

We already have a MM. I hunt whatever the seasonal prey is and it works just as expected. As I said, this is a self-inflicted player issue, you can "undo it" the moment you want. 

I like a person that's convinced they are always right. Shows self confidence.