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Worcester DESIGN in 1948 and 1949?

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From the recent devblog:

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One of the preliminary designs of the Worcester-class cruiser from 1948. During the preliminary design process, the US Department of the Navy considered the possibility of building a 3-gun 152-mm main battery turret instead of the final twin turret for this cruiser. But the idea was abandoned due to the complexity of the task and the uncertainty of the terms of its implementation. The Santander is a model of what a Worcester-type cruiser with three triple 152mm turrets could have looked like by 1948. 

 

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Another version of the Worcester-class cruiser design, this time from 1949. The cruiser is a further development of the Worcester-class cruiser. The general layout and architecture are similar to Worcester.

 

And we know that Worcester entered commission in July 1948, so how is a "preliminary design" for Worcester still possible in 1948? Do such designs really exist, or it's WG altering real Worcester designs to meet the gameplay needs?

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Already are being altered by carrying torpedoes??? US ships look ridiculous with torpedoes when they shouldn’t carry torps

Heck by the way the ship looks it’s more realistic they removed the catapults and put the torpedoes in the rear.

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1 hour ago, lonelylincoln said:

And we know that Worcester entered commission in July 1948, so how is a "preliminary design" for Worcester still possible in 1948? Do such designs really exist, or it's WG altering real Worcester designs to meet the gameplay needs?

I think you're misreading this.  If the triple turret preliminary design had been implemented, Santander is what would have appeared in 1948.  Well, except for the torps.  Whether that particular *design* was real isn't really relevant, is it? 

San Martin appears to be a potential evolution of Wooster.

 

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2 hours ago, lonelylincoln said:

From the recent devblog:

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One of the preliminary designs of the Worcester-class cruiser from 1948. During the preliminary design process, the US Department of the Navy considered the possibility of building a 3-gun 152-mm main battery turret instead of the final twin turret for this cruiser. But the idea was abandoned due to the complexity of the task and the uncertainty of the terms of its implementation. The Santander is a model of what a Worcester-type cruiser with three triple 152mm turrets could have looked like by 1948. 

 

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Another version of the Worcester-class cruiser design, this time from 1949. The cruiser is a further development of the Worcester-class cruiser. The general layout and architecture are similar to Worcester.

 

And we know that Worcester entered commission in July 1948, so how is a "preliminary design" for Worcester still possible in 1948? Do such designs really exist, or it's WG altering real Worcester designs to meet the gameplay needs?

wouldn't the 'proto' Worchester be Seattle?

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5 hours ago, Fatalimpulse said:

Technically the T9 is not actually the Worchester prelim it claims to be. Neither is the T8 and T10. These ships are imposters among us.

T8 is a real design. But I wonder what 'design' is T9 and 10 based on.

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23 hours ago, lonelylincoln said:

T8 is a real design. But I wonder what 'design' is T9 and 10 based on.

Looks to me like they are trying to get more mileage out the Vallejo design and artwork....

 

I'm really curious how Pan Am players really feel about this....

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On 11/6/2022 at 8:40 AM, Copperhead550 said:

Already are being altered by carrying torpedoes??? US ships look ridiculous with torpedoes when they shouldn’t carry torps

Heck by the way the ship looks it’s more realistic they removed the catapults and put the torpedoes in the rear.

There's other bits of fun.

 

Tier VIII Anchorage has torpedoes, but the USN gave up on having torpedoes on their new CAs as early as 1932-1933's Portland-class.  Anchorage has an appearance like those of mid-1930s USN CAs like Wichita, and the USN stopped making new CAs with torps long before her.

 

Tier VII Zara has torpedoes in the game.  There were plans on having torpedoes, but the Italian navy wanted even lower displacement.  So numerous things were axed or cut down from the design, like armor and torpedoes.  They never even commissioned with torpedo launchers.

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2 hours ago, YouSatInGum said:

I'm really curious how Pan Am players really feel about this....

I'm not part of that community so I don't want to speak for them in any sense, however all you need to do is look at the comments under the devblog on the forum to see that there are a lot of people upset that better designs and real ships, in some cases, were ignored

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On 11/6/2022 at 9:37 PM, lonelylincoln said:

T8 is a real design. But I wonder what 'design' is T9 and 10 based on.

The Devblog gives details that would imply the T8 is based off the 6" AA cruiser scheme "A" being the Worchester preliminary with 4 double turrets and aircraft facilities. However in the devblog, her hull is the model of the T8 American CL Cleveland. In the same vein, the T9 is the hull model of the T10 USN CA Des Moines and the T10 is the hull model of the T9 USN CA Buffalo  

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