6 dizanck ∞ Members 6 posts 30,882 battles Report post #1 Posted November 6, 2022 (edited) Im sick and tired of having NO COUNTER to subs. Worst then average players playing tier 10 subs. Owning their side of the map. Players not working together to deal with the subs, or they are too busy dealing with other ships. You cant play as a single player in Randoms anymore. So now that my Rant is over. When playing as a single in Randoms, what are the best ships to hunt Subs (if they can). Edited November 6, 2022 by dizanck 1 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
11,311 [SALVO] ArIskandir Members 16,461 posts 10,200 battles Report post #2 Posted November 6, 2022 Oh crap, I totally forgot Subs entered full access, thanks for the reminder. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
74 [DOG] Riminisky Members 156 posts 17,609 battles Report post #3 Posted November 6, 2022 (edited) A Daring with the Slot 4 Depth Charge modification and Extended Hydro Upgrade is a bit deadly. Problem is speed and the sun disengaging. But if you can get on top the sub is gone and the hydro allows you to illuminate the thing for others. Edited November 6, 2022 by Riminisky 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
270 [ISLA] DeadIyArT Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 781 posts 15,415 battles Report post #4 Posted November 6, 2022 Any dd with hydro is a good counter to sub. Sub are easy to fight once you know there machines. there are lots of guides on youtube. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6 dizanck ∞ Members 6 posts 30,882 battles Report post #5 Posted November 6, 2022 Tier 10 subs are too fast. Been trying the Daring. Still not a LEGIT counter. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
11,311 [SALVO] ArIskandir Members 16,461 posts 10,200 battles Report post #6 Posted November 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, dizanck said: Tier 10 subs are too fast. Been trying the Daring. Still not a LEGIT counter. Try Cossack Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
39,267 [HINON] Lert Alpha Tester 27,729 posts 26,569 battles Report post #7 Posted November 6, 2022 Bye. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,145 [WPORT] Wolfswetpaws Members 20,736 posts 22,656 battles Report post #8 Posted November 6, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, dizanck said: Im sick and tired of having NO COUNTER to subs. Worst then average players playing tier 10 subs. Owning their side of the map. Players not working together to deal with the subs, or they are too busy dealing with other ships. You cant play as a single player in Randoms anymore. So now that my Rant is over. When playing as a single in Randoms, what are the best ships to hunt Subs (if they can). Things that help... ~Player situational awarenes. [Check? Check! Okay, good.] ~Being able to maneuver well, (speed and turning radius and rudder-shift time). ~Hydro-acoustic search consumable, useful but not strictly necessary. ~Air-strike depth-charges offer some flexibility for hull positioning and the capability to "reach-out" and depth charge a Submarine. But, in a pinch, one can maneuver alongside or on-top of a Submarine to depth-charge it with stern-launched depth-charges. ~Understanding of how the homing-torpedoes work, and how they can be dodged. @Ahskance has created a few videos on his youtube channel regarding this. Here's a link to one of them. https://youtu.be/U1hL9yioEF0 Edited November 6, 2022 by Wolfswetpaws 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
39,267 [HINON] Lert Alpha Tester 27,729 posts 26,569 battles Report post #9 Posted November 6, 2022 24 minutes ago, Wolfswetpaws said: Things that help... Yeah but that takes actual skill, effort and learning. Ain't nobody got time for that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,145 [WPORT] Wolfswetpaws Members 20,736 posts 22,656 battles Report post #10 Posted November 6, 2022 10 minutes ago, Lert said: Yeah but that takes actual skill, effort and learning. Ain't nobody got time for that. If one wants an "Easy Button", then go to the Staples office supplies store. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
334 [VFW] ThePanzerKing41 Members 395 posts 4,562 battles Report post #11 Posted November 6, 2022 1 hour ago, dizanck said: Im sick and tired of having NO COUNTER to subs. Worst then average players playing tier 10 subs. Owning their side of the map. Players not working together to deal with the subs, or they are too busy dealing with other ships. You cant play as a single player in Randoms anymore. So now that my Rant is over. When playing as a single in Randoms, what are the best ships to hunt Subs (if they can). Uh, yeah you can play in randoms buddy. There's a distinct difference in there being no counter to something and you not being able to think of a counter to something. Let me give you a few examples of great sub counters. Forrest Sherman and Z-52 are the most notable ones with their insane amounts of depth charge drops as well as their ability to use hydro and catch the submarine. Gearing and literally any other DD that has good max depth charge damage around 5000. Most American battleships have great ASW as well as any ship with radar to catch a submarine that may be surfaced or on periscope depth. Does this satisfy your needs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,015 [SUB4] MN1234 Members 1,716 posts 13,143 battles Report post #12 Posted November 6, 2022 I just killed 2 subs in 1 battle. I'm sorry, but I just don't get the whining. That is the very last thing I will say on this topic. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
270 [ISLA] DeadIyArT Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 781 posts 15,415 battles Report post #13 Posted November 6, 2022 1 hour ago, dizanck said: Tier 10 subs are too fast. Been trying the Daring. Still not a LEGIT counter. Any sub on surface or periscope depth does it full speed. For German sub are slower then usa sub by a bit. And can be detected by hydro. Once under 30m to max depth there speed is half. I wish they would increase the Dearing hydro to 5km Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
720 Telastyn Members 1,031 posts 21,131 battles Report post #14 Posted November 6, 2022 2 hours ago, dizanck said: When playing as a single in Randoms, what are the best ships to hunt Subs (if they can). At least at mid tiers, Italian DDs are great at it. Their charge smoke lets them close on the sub without being shot, their speed gets them there before the sub can run, and their DCs can usually one-shot the subs. Unfortunately, it’s one of the only things they’re good at. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,585 black_hull4 Members 3,357 posts 3,059 battles Report post #15 Posted November 6, 2022 3 hours ago, dizanck said: You cant play as a single player in Randoms anymore. Oh yeah? Watch me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12,714 [PSP] Snargfargle [PSP] Members 19,325 posts Report post #16 Posted November 6, 2022 3 hours ago, dizanck said: what are the best ships to hunt Subs (if they can). I've been sunk once by a sub in my Massachusetts and have sunk about 20 of them. This will probably change as players become better in subs though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,137 [NMKJT] MnemonScarlet Members 4,286 posts 9,133 battles Report post #17 Posted November 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Lert said: Yeah but that takes actual skill, effort and learning. Ain't nobody got time for that. This playerbase has never been into that stuff, and it doesn't start with subs. See all the people raging about DDs/HE spam since 2015. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
39,267 [HINON] Lert Alpha Tester 27,729 posts 26,569 battles Report post #18 Posted November 6, 2022 (edited) 43 minutes ago, MnemonScarlet said: See all the people raging about DDs/HE spam since 2015. If the forumposting playerbase is to be believed, this game has been dying since 2015 and has been killed with every now major update. Edited November 6, 2022 by Lert 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
105 [ODIN] WillRuggz7 Members 116 posts 7,221 battles Report post #19 Posted November 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Lert said: If the fprumposting playerbase is to be believed, this game has been dying since 2015 and has been killed with every now major update. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
39,267 [HINON] Lert Alpha Tester 27,729 posts 26,569 battles Report post #20 Posted November 6, 2022 Just now, WillRuggz7 said: <Snip> Unrelated, that a Shiro Sanada avatar? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
105 [ODIN] WillRuggz7 Members 116 posts 7,221 battles Report post #21 Posted November 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, Lert said: Unrelated, that a Shiro Sanada avatar? Indeed it is! I am a huge Space Battleship Yamato fan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
17,296 [WOLF5] HazeGrayUnderway [WOLF5] Members 38,161 posts 30,915 battles Report post #22 Posted November 6, 2022 3 hours ago, Riminisky said: But if you can get on top the sub is gone and the hydro allows you to illuminate the thing for others. Sounds kinky. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
39,267 [HINON] Lert Alpha Tester 27,729 posts 26,569 battles Report post #23 Posted November 6, 2022 9 minutes ago, WillRuggz7 said: Indeed it is! I am a huge Space Battleship Yamato fan. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites