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Playing the new IJN tier 6 cruiser has brought me to a point in wich WG refuses to do anything about.

I DARE EVERY WG EMPLOYEE TO PLAY 10 TIER 6 MATCHES TODAY IN THE NEW IJN LIGHT CRUISER GOKASE.

The cruiser is a blast to play, until...

You have 2 carriers targeting you with 2 subs pinging you and 2 battleships shooting at you...

At Tier 6, one cv and 1 sub are op to deal with.

Why?

No AA, no matter how you group up.

Subs able to burn your dcp as they ping you to death.

You just cannot handle multiple carrier drops and dodge subs torps.

The carrier players understand how to gang up on a ship 1 by 1 until dead...

 

Last match I was 10 km from a warspite and Bayern. Multiple carrier drops and 2 subs pinging me....

A glorious 4 min of HELL....

AND THIS WAS THE 3RD IN A ROW....

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FOR THE LOVE OF THE GAME 

1 CARRIER

1 SUB

....

AS YOUR BATTLE LOADING SCREEN SAYS. SWITCH TIERS OR SHIP TYPES IF YOU EXPERIENCE LONG WAITING TIMES...

STOP CODDELLING THE SELECT FEW.

 

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At some point you need to consider the wisdom of doing your mid tier grinds on Ranked and/or Ops, for the current season I greatly recommend Silver Ranked.

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The developers (that are in-touch with the community) disagree with you and think that 4 CV and 6 SS games are good 👍Screenshot 2022-11-03 10.18.09 AM.png

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36 minutes ago, Pretty_Rkless said:

he cruiser is a blast to play, until...

You have 2 carriers targeting you with 2 subs pinging you and 2 battleships shooting at you...

At Tier 6, one cv and 1 sub are op to deal with.

Why?

Well clearly you overextended. 

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20 minutes ago, paradat said:

Well clearly you overextended. 

if you aren't playing passive go back to coop!

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1 hour ago, Pretty_Rkless said:

STOP CODDELLING THE SELECT FEW.

 

So, With 2 CVs and 3 subs, that 5 out of 12 players for that team. That’s pretty close to a majority, not a “select few”. 

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39 minutes ago, SKurj said:

if you aren't playing passive go back to coop!

LOL. Coop is not really my thing. 

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3 hours ago, Pretty_Rkless said:

You have 2 carriers targeting you with 2 subs pinging you and 2 battleships shooting at you...

If you find yourself in a position where half of the red team is shooting at you, it’s really not the game that’s at fault.

Either you are badly out of position or you are doing something the other team feels strongly about stopping. 

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3 hours ago, Pretty_Rkless said:

WG explain how 4 cv 6 sub games are fine.

1. It doesn't happen every game.

2. That makes it random. 

3. That fits the brief of a random battle. 

Also, if 5 of the players in your team are in a CV or a Submarine, it looks like they're reasonably popular, which would indicate to WG that things are going well. They probably have more faith in the stats than rant forum posts. 

Peace out. 

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4 hours ago, paradat said:

Well clearly you overextended. 

I was 3 km from my spawn point....

 

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2 hours ago, FineousFingers said:

If you find yourself in a position where half of the red team is shooting at you, it’s really not the game that’s at fault.

Either you are badly out of position or you are doing something the other team feels strongly about stopping. 

I was 3 km from my spawn point. Me and 1 dd.

With asymmetrical  spawning the heavy side was our spawn ares by c cap.

And I was behind an island until carriers forced me to move....

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2 hours ago, HyperFish said:

1. It doesn't happen every game.

2. That makes it random. 

3. That fits the brief of a random battle. 

Also, if 5 of the players in your team are in a CV or a Submarine, it looks like they're reasonably popular, which would indicate to WG that things are going well. They probably have more faith in the stats than rant forum posts. 

Peace out. 

4 out 6 games....

Tier 6 is screwed right now....

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The number of subs is probably going to drop once the ‘ooo shiny’ or tree grinding crowd gets their few weeks of entertainment out of them. Many of the sub captains that I have seen haven’t the slightest how to not get expeditiously mangled in them. 

Anything new is going to spike until people get bored enough to go back to PassiveBB or IslandCruiser.

I still see double pinged cruisers giving broadside to my torpedoes, so, once the surface ships adapt the tuna fish scourge will die down.

I prefer seeing few subs in my matches. Less hydrophones lighting mine up.

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6 hours ago, Pretty_Rkless said:

I was 3 km from my spawn point. Me and 1 dd.

With asymmetrical  spawning the heavy side was our spawn ares by c cap.

And I was behind an island until carriers forced me to move....

Where you were relative to your spawn doesn’t matter. Where you were relative to those six red ships matters.

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16 hours ago, Pretty_Rkless said:

Subs able to burn your dcp as they ping you to death.

One more thing: subs can’t burn your DCP, that’s you doing that. 

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Yeah, I noticed last night in the Queue Screen for random matches, subs by far out numbered any of the other ship classes. In a few of the Queues, the number of subs outnumbered the total of all the other ship classes COMBINED...

Clearly, the rants on this forum concerning subs do not represent the WoW community as a whole.

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53 minutes ago, FineousFingers said:

One more thing: subs can’t burn your DCP, that’s you doing that. 

True, however you have to choose whether to cancel the torpedo homing, or risk dodging, in order to save it for fires/flooding.  DCP is kinda stretched extra thin at this point.

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17 hours ago, Pretty_Rkless said:

The carrier players understand how to gang up on a ship 1 by 1 until dead...

Agreed. I play dd and cruisers so I don't mind the subs but a pair of CVs working together make a game nasty, brutish and short.

12 hours ago, Pretty_Rkless said:

Tier 6 is screwed right now....

T5 to T7 used to be really fun but you are right it has become noticeably unpleasant the last couple of weeks. It seems to be worst in the morning EST, not as bad in the afternoons.

I have switched to T5 ranked and starting to play T8 and above.

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12 hours ago, Pretty_Rkless said:

I was 3 km from my spawn point. Me and 1 dd.

With asymmetrical  spawning the heavy side was our spawn ares by c cap.

And I was behind an island until carriers forced me to move....

Maybe you should have moved before that?

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No idea if it's true or not, but a clan mate told me one night that someone datamined the play records for the devs and it turned out that they really don't play World of Warships. It seems unlikely that this would be true and I spent at least 20 minutes expressing my disbelief but honestly, that would explain a whole lot about the current state of the game if true.

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19 hours ago, Pretty_Rkless said:

You have 2 carriers targeting you with 2 subs pinging you...
 

Sadly yes, you were unhappy with the battle, but look at it from WG point of view, the 2 carriers and 2 sub players were very happy about the battle. So in WG eyes that's 4 folks happy versus one fellow unhappy. The spreadsheet says that's a win.

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2 hours ago, Beachdude67 said:

No idea if it's true or not, but a clan mate told me one night that someone datamined the play records for the devs and it turned out that they really don't play World of Warships.

Most of their play is probably done on internal servers, where I'm willing to bet they play a metric ship-ton of hours. But that doesn't show up in their stats, and it's quite possible that the in-development game stats (even on the live server) aren't recorded either. 

As for the OP, the reason I'm never going to see things his way is that when I play Randoms, I'm happy to play the hand I'm dealt and attempt to rise to the challenge.

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6 hours ago, FineousFingers said:

One more thing: subs can’t burn your DCP, that’s you doing that. 

Try playing an ijn light cruiser and dodging torps. It's like a new Mexico trying from 3km....ain't gonna happen...

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