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Just heard a rumour I started that PT boats are going to be next addition to WOW,

They will be deployed as a squadron of 6 (sort of like aircraft attacks) with 4 torpedoes each.

Should be fun?

 

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48 minutes ago, hammer_1 said:

Just heard a rumour I started that PT boats are going to be next addition to WOW,

Schnellboots were added a while back and removed with Operation Dynamo. You can see them in Phly's Dunkirk video.

As for them actually being playable I highly doubt it.

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I have not heard that, but people often say weird stuff when they're frustrated about something.  We had someone in General Discussion ranting about CVs and Submarines, then say PT Boats are next.

 

They'd have to be gamed up for player usage far more than submarines.

 

We had PT Boat equivalents before in WoWS... Operation Dynamo had Kriegsmarine Schnellboots / E-Boats, which were like their American counterparts.  They were used by NPCs and we massacred them with our Destroyers.  A fast firing Destroyer, especially with good turret traverse like Sims, could single-handedly wipe out a dozen of those things with little effort.  US Destroyers ate these things alive in Dynamo.  You 1-2 shotted these things with DD guns.

Edit:  This was literally the original mission of the first Destroyers ever made.  Way long ago the advent of the torpedo as we know it ushered in a massive build of small torpedo boats.  Finally, small boats had the power to threaten and destroy large warships.  However, a ship was designed to be larger than these torpedo boats, still be fast, and be well equipped to dealing with them.  Enter the Torpedo Boat Destroyer, or "Destroyer" for short.  So navies built Destroyers so that their big, expensive ships would be better protected from the threat of torpedo boat attacks.

HMS Havock, the first modern Destroyer, shown in 1894.

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The only weapons the schnellboots had of any use against the players were torpedoes.  Like submarines they'd have to be gamed up.  Historically the only guns they had were along the lines of .50 cals, 20mm.  Largest was a single 37mm gun for "AA" on some German Schnellboots.  Woopee.

 

Mega Secondaries Battleships will eat them up, particularly the ones with improved Secondary accuracy, i.e. Massachusetts, Georgia, Ohio, German Battlecruiser Line.

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Wait till you see the new Bombardment Ships they are working on.....

 

LCT_Launching_Rockets.jpg

 

<shameless rumormill plug begins>

 

:cap_haloween: :cap_book:

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ROFL!  I hope this is true.

Then maybe one day we can play as a SHELL fired from another ship.  We spent our entire life on a trajectory of which we have no control, and then splash harmlessly into the ocean.

What a great game this has become!

In all seriousness... I hope the art/sound team knows how good they do.  Literally everything else in this game is a complete crapshow.

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Player 1 in Game 1: "You know what would be neat?  PT Boats"

 Player 2 in Game 1: "That would be cool"

Player 2 in Game 2: "Someone in my last game said that PT Boats would be cool"

Player 3 in Game 2: They sure would be.

Player 3 in Game 3:  "I just heard WG is adding PT Boats"

Lather, rinse, repeat.

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We already have a PT boat, it's called the YOLO Emilio.

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Oversimplification; but FAB/MTB/PTs would best work as squads, that way the AA guns could be the mechanic used to defend against them.

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5 hours ago, black_hull4 said:

Schnellboots were added a while back and removed with Operation Dynamo. You can see them in Phly's Dunkirk video.

As for them actually being playable I highly doubt it.

They were only in that operation. If we had true night battles they would make some sense for those night battles as their stealth would allow launching torpedoes at large targets and using small caliber weapons on enemy boats.

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8 hours ago, hammer_1 said:

Just heard a rumour I started that PT boats are going to be next addition to WOW,

Something something Thor Wunder-inspired

if this rumor's actually true, which I do doubt that it is.

...I have to get more creative with the game naming conventions, I see ;P

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7 hours ago, Larry_Talbot said:

Player 1 in Game 1: "You know what would be neat?  PT Boats"

 ...

Lather, rinse, repeat.

Player 34 in Game 12 made it to the forum, started some kind of conversation. :Smile_popcorn:


Those of Operation Dynamo:

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:Smile_honoring: Blaubeeren

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9 hours ago, hammer_1 said:

Just heard a rumour I started that PT boats are going to be next addition to WOW,

They will be deployed as a squadron of 6 (sort of like aircraft attacks) with 4 torpedoes each.

Should be fun?

 

your confusing a speculation or joke from an actually somewhat solid rumor that has been leaked.

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12 hours ago, Jakob_Knight said:

Wait till you see the new Bombardment Ships they are working on.....

 

LCT_Launching_Rockets.jpg

 

<shameless rumormill plug begins>

 

:cap_haloween: :cap_book:

those will be before or after the ekranoplane?

 

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I remember the torpedo boats in Scenario Operation Dynamo.
If "Dynamo" is to return, then we can expect it to feature Torpedo Boats.
WOWs did say they were working on returning a number of Scenario Operations that have been on hiatus.  And we can hope they'll add more scenarios for other tiers of play, too, I suppose.  :cap_book:

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1 hour ago, pepe_trueno said:

those will be before or after the ekranoplane?

 

 

Ekranoplane is new Russian Supership Destroyer, Comrade.  Will replace too slow Zorkiy to maintain Russian leadership in glorious naval warship game against inferior Capitist navies.  Is good, da?

 

 

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17 hours ago, hammer_1 said:

Just heard a rumour I started that PT boats are going to be next addition to WOW,

They will be deployed as a squadron of 6 (sort of like aircraft attacks) with 4 torpedoes each.

Should be fun?

 

The rule of thumb is never say "never" but it's unlikely. Many TBs are already in the game as smaller DDs. The really tiny MTB (motor torpedo boat) ones like the USN PT boats dont really add anything. Individually they are super tiny speed boats with no armor, no health, insignificant guns and a tiny torp load. You could put them in packs but then they are basically very slow planes that have no CV and get blocked by terrain. 

There's really no reason to add them other than to add them. I was reading a book on the Mediterranean naval campaign in WWII and it really strikes home how weak MTBs are against a real warship unless they can catch it by surprise. A single fleet DD can shred a group of PTs with no real effort and they frequently did so. It doesn't even need its main battery. 20mm and 40mm AA guns will rip up a PT. 

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17 hours ago, hammer_1 said:

Just heard a rumour I started that PT boats are going to be next addition to WOW,

They will be deployed as a squadron of 6 (sort of like aircraft attacks) with 4 torpedoes each.

Should be fun?

 

Don't forget about the destroyer escort/frigates.

I wouldn't be surprised if we see amtracs & Higgins boats in this game battling BBs. As well as some saying they were in the war they should be in the game.

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17 hours ago, hammer_1 said:

Just heard a rumour I started that PT boats are going to be next addition to WOW,

They will be deployed as a squadron of 6 (sort of like aircraft attacks) with 4 torpedoes each.

Should be fun?

 

The forum has kicked this around for years but I have never seen any sort of interest from WG.

Would love to see it and it may indeed happen but we have zero news on anyone at WG working on it. 

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8 hours ago, Blaubeeren said:

Player 34 in Game 12 made it to the forum, started some kind of conversation. :Smile_popcorn:


Those of Operation Dynamo:

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That thing has two torpedo tubes (And 4 torpedoes total, but WG has worked around that fact in the past). And no guns worth mentioning.

WG would have to geek the ever living fu............... daylights out of PT boats (Es, MTBs) to put them in game in a meaningful way for humans.

That said, I would expect WG has at least looked at this.

 

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18 hours ago, hammer_1 said:

Just heard a rumour I started

 

Then a rumor you started is all it is...

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35 minutes ago, DrHolmes52 said:

That thing has two torpedo tubes (And 4 torpedoes total, but WG has worked around that fact in the past). And no guns worth mentioning.

WG would have to geek the ever living fu............... daylights out of PT boats (Es, MTBs) to put them in game in a meaningful way for humans.

That said, I would expect WG has at least looked at this.

 

Can ships in the game WoWs run out of Ammo?

No, ammo is endless in WoWs.

Did I say those will become playable for humans?

No, I sayed this are those (logically of the enemy / red bots) in Operation Dynamo (which is no more playable since shortly before CV-rework), they had been ingame therefore back then.

As WG pointed out in there roadmap news they want to bring back some of the old scenarios, if Operation Dynamo itself we gona see.

You could have notice that ...

9 hours ago, Blaubeeren said:

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Those of Operation Dynamo:

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... was relating to some other posts above mine.

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15 hours ago, lloyd1701 said:

We already have a PT boat, it's called the YOLO Emilio.

I thought it was the Smith.

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It would be easy, play the tender as the player's ship and the pt boats would be run like aircraft. Give them great concealment, damaged by AA guns and can damage AA guns on ships and aircraft. The British also had MTBs with heavier guns on them IIRC.

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