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Is Hawkins the worst ship in the game?

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Ugh, I hate this ship. 

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You are not alone. It's either Hawkins or Yahagi. Both suck at what they are meant to do.

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Naa Kryspy Kream still has her crown as the worst (pre-Russian bias era) ship in the game..

Nothing IMO, comes close to taking away her crown/title of worst ship in the game.

She's the worst ship in the game... Not even Co-op wants her...

Its that bad.

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I have a soft spot in my heart for the Hawkins.  :-)

Also, she reminds me of a character named Hawkins, in the movie "The Court Jester", which further reminds me of Glynis Johns, in her role as Maid Jean in the same movie.  :-)

 

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Awww Kryspy Kream is a great ship, baby Smolensk with a 21 pt Captain, and Hawkins is fun with Jingles as Captain.   

Worse ship in the game hands down.....Yukon    what a POS that thing is. I am surprised anyone would pay cash for that. 

But each to their own 

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49 minutes ago, HyperFish said:

Ugh, I hate this ship. 

Hawkins is one of those ships WG decide to give them a special feature just to nerf  everything else to the ground. I mean the guns are bad and horribly distributed, its slow and half the ship is made of citadel but hey it has trolltanium bow...   

WG logic cant be denied!

fun fact the secondary guns are not even properly modeled, they dont move at all and for some reason their angles are quite narrow even when there is nothing blocking them.

 

its a bad ship that could use a big buff but every now and then it does pull awesome games

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10 minutes ago, black_hull4 said:

Are we just going to forget(willingly)that Kawachi exists?

Naa I played her to the ground. She's still the must played BB for me.. She's not the worst when I first played her... If I started today, Kawachi is more a power creep victim.. A bygone of an era where things were fair..

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I thought Fen Yang stole that title from all the predecessors when it came out.

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I enjoyed the Pirate Galleon, fun ship to play.

So far nothing rates worse in my book than Veneto... When a ship makes Monarch looks good you have no doubt it is something special.

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1 hour ago, HyperFish said:

Ugh, I hate this ship. 

1 hour ago, Firewalk said:

You are not alone. It's either Hawkins or Yahagi. Both suck at what they are meant to do.

Only thing I dislike about Hawkins is the pathetic two torps per side.

I’d sooner have slightly better guns and no torps; and as far as the guns go, I consider her better than Emerald, (which I also like because all the torps,) since at least Hawkins can fire HE, unlike the worthlessly situational RN CL AP.

1 hour ago, RGINBC said:

Awww Kryspy Kream is a great ship, baby Smolensk with a 21 pt Captain, and Hawkins is fun with Jingles as Captain.

Consider The Donut to be a great destroyer killer. Some might disagree, but then I don’t open water fight destroyers. I Atlanta them. Get into terrain, ambush a destroyer, especially one distracted by another destroyer, and beat it to death with HE.

The torps certainly help.

1 hour ago, RGINBC said:

Worse ship in the game hands down.....Yukon    what a POS that thing is. I am surprised anyone would pay cash for that.

Mine dropped during Christmas.

It’s there? Don’t particularly like or dislike it atm. (Related controversy aside.)

1 hour ago, RGINBC said:

But each to their own.

I’ve been called a contrarian because of various ships I like; Emerald, The Donut, Viribus Unitus; and ships I hate; Leander, Fuji, Des Moines.

I don’t deny the appellation.

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The only bad ship is one not played to its strengths.

Any unicom can put fantastic numbers out on so called bad ships.

The average player will struggle to do decent in a so called bad ship.

 

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3 hours ago, black_hull4 said:

Are we just going to forget(willingly)that Kawachi exists?

When i first started playing I would just ram with it.

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4 hours ago, HyperFish said:

Ugh, I hate this ship. 

 

4 hours ago, Firewalk said:

You are not alone. It's either Hawkins or Yahagi. Both suck at what they are meant to do.

You play the Yahaqi like the Destroyer Leader that the class was often used for. The Hawkins can be a tough one to play because like all RN cruisers it is brittle so much like the Yahaqi you have to do a lot of dancing to dodge incoming fire but it like all CA does have the ability to citadel near tier BB which you would think would not be a surprise to anyone in the game at this point but they still give you the shot.

4 hours ago, Navalpride33 said:

Naa Kryspy Kream still has her crown as the worst (pre-Russian bias era) ship in the game..

Nothing IMO, comes close to taking away her crown/title of worst ship in the game.

She's the worst ship in the game... Not even Co-op wants her...

Its that bad.

The KK took a real hit to its ability when AFT went away because of the range loss but is still what it was, a DD with a citadel.

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2 hours ago, dEsTurbed1 said:

Any unicom can put fantastic numbers out on so called bad ships.

Well, yeah. Most of the people unicums face are well below their skill level and they may relish a challenge to keep things interesting.

But those same unicums would put up even better numbers in an OP ship.

And when things get highly competitive (ranked, clan, etc) the unicums will gravitate to the "good" ships just like everyone else. 

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7 hours ago, Navalpride33 said:

Naa I played her to the ground. She's still the must played BB for me.. She's not the worst when I first played her... If I started today, Kawachi is more a power creep victim.. A bygone of an era where things were fair..

Kawachi is good now after her buff
She was one of the worst ships in the game in the past because despite her horrendous 8km range, she couldn't hit for jack

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12 hours ago, black_hull4 said:

Are we just going to forget(willingly)that Kawachi exists?

What’s a Kawachi?  :cap_book:

Actually, being at tier 3 meant that you only had to play a few games in it before getting the Myogi, so it didn’t leave much of an impression.  Plus, I was so bad at the time that I couldn’t tell how bad the ship was.

My vote is for Yahagi.  I have never felt more impotent than while playing that ship.

 

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9 hours ago, dEsTurbed1 said:

The only bad ship is one not played to its strengths.

Any unicom can put fantastic numbers out on so called bad ships.

The average player will struggle to do decent in a so called bad ship.

 

whats the marlboroughs strength plz?? id really like to know...

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well im doing the surrey grind at the moment and that thing is a damn turd as well.i would free xp to albermarble but ill just suffer on through it....atleast i have premium at the moment so on the rare chance i have a good game it racks up 8k or better in xp.

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Strangely, I enjoy Hawkins,.... when it's not bottom vs tier 7s.shot-22_01.31_09_04.17-0687.thumb.jpg.4e7849d67cda19dc4ce45bea80380a7d.jpgshot-22_01.31_09_03.51-0237.thumb.jpg.0c0937d549b8fc43d16c84ae487d554c.jpg

I run it exclusively as Cap's ship. With the cruiser build for torpedoes, it may only fire 2 compared to Emerald's larger torpedo barrage per side, but Hawkins' torps are total sledgehammers, the torp build makes them 18K damage each.

Honestly for me this one's a keeper: its HE hits heavy, and it is tanky for its tier vs peer enemies.

I'll be putting on the Victorian White perma camo at some point since I plan on keeping it (WoWs never discounts mid-tier perma camos... we need a coupon once or twice a year for that).

 

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13 hours ago, ArIskandir said:

When a ship makes Monarch looks good

I have a 58% win rate in the Monarch. IIRC she used to have probably the  best BB concealment in her MM spread before CE skill was normalized to 10% across all ships.

Her major problem comes from being a paper ship sandwiched between one that has a proud combat record and another which at least made it as far as keel laydown (i.e. further than Montana or Izumo) before circumstances got in the way.

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