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6 minutes ago, LittleWhiteMouse said:

The sustained AA values of vessels in World of Warships aren't straight forward.  It's modified by accuracy, which makes comparing the total output (nevermind the efficacy) of individual ships hard to discern.  To help correct this, I've started compiling lists of the approximate AA damage individual ships can dispense.  This was calculated by taking datamined sustained AA dps values per mount, dividing them by 2/7 and then multiplying them by the mount's accuracy rate and rounding up to the nearest whole number.  Errors will invariably have slipped through the cracks here, so please be patient.  Do note that raw AA dps does not necessarily speak to the effectiveness of the AA values in question.  Range factors a lot.

I've started with high-tier ships.  I'll be adding to this as I go.

Sustained AA DPS Totals of Tier IX Ships

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  1. VmUuTV2.png - 755 dps - (BB) Iowa
  2. GAa98AP.png - 751 dps - (CA) Johan de Witt
  3. VmUuTV2.png - 747 dps - (BB) Missouri
  4. VmUuTV2.png - 724 dps - (BB) Minnesota
  5. VmUuTV2.png - 641 dps - (CA) Alaska
  6. VmUuTV2.png - 641 dps - (CA) Alaska B
  7. VmUuTV2.png - 635 dps - (BB) Georgia
  8. teoxXfD.png - 603 dps - (CA) Sejong
  9. VmUuTV2.png - 599 dps - (CA) Buffalo
  10. 97lLypd.png - 599 dps - (BB) Jean Bart
  11. 97lLypd.png - 599 dps - (BB) Jean Bart B
  12. z1krLzK.png - 584 dps - (BB) Lepanto
  13. VmUuTV2.png - 564 dps - (CA) Tulsa
  14. 61xpa9a.png - 546 dps - (CA) Agir
  15. EuTpn1I.png - 539 dps - (CA) Neptune
  16. VmUuTV2.png - 534 dps - (CA) Seattle
  17. EuTpn1I.png - 520 dps - (BB) Lion
  18. 61xpa9a.png - 513 dps - (CA) Siegfried
  19. 97lLypd.png - 513 dps - (CA) Saint Louis
  20. 97lLypd.png - 511 dps - (CA) Carnot
  21. z1krLzK.png - 510 dps - (CA) Brindisi
  22. 61xpa9a.png - 503 dps - (BB) Friedrich der Große
  23. VmUuTV2.png - 481 dps - (BB) Kearsarge
  24. 61xpa9a.png - 474 dps - (CA) Roon
  25. FZR6htV.png - 461 dps - (CA) Dmitri Donskoi
  26. EuTpn1I.png - 456 dps - (BB) Marlborough
  27. EuTpn1I.png - 446 dps - (CA) Drake
  28. 61xpa9a.png - 444 dps - (BB) Pommern
  29. 61xpa9a.png - 444 dps - (BB) Pommern B
  30. 97lLypd.png - 443 dps - (BB) Alsace
  31. teoxXfD.png - 443 dps - (BB) Wujing
  32. z1krLzK.png - 442 dps - (BB) Marco Polo
  33. z1krLzK.png - 442 dps - (BB) Guiseppe Verdi
  34. oRLce4l.png - 431 dps - (DD) Friesland
  35. GAa98AP.png - 431 dps - (DD) Groningen
  36. teoxXfD.png - 404 dps - (CA) Dalian
  37. oRLce4l.png - 399 dps - (DD) Östergötland
  38. FZR6htV.png - 396 dps - (BB) Sovetsky Soyuz
  39. 61xpa9a.png - 395 dps - (BB) Prinz Ruprecht
  40. FZR6htV.png - 388 dps - (CA) Riga
  41. ZNQvScl.png - 365 dps - (BB) Izumo
  42. ZNQvScl.png - 359 dps - (CA) Azuma
  43. ZNQvScl.png - 338 dps - (BB) Hizen
  44. ZNQvScl.png - 333 dps - (CA) Ibuki
  45. teoxXfD.png - 316 dps - (BB) Bajie
  46. ZNQvScl.png - 302 dps - (DD) Kitakaze
  47. FZR6htV.png - 282 dps - (CA) Kronshtadt
  48. 61xpa9a.png - 278 dps - (DD) Felix Schultz
  49. FZR6htV.png - 258 dps - (BB) AL Sovetskaya Rossiya
  50. VmUuTV2.png - 250 dps - (DD) Fletcher
  51. 61xpa9a.png - 243 dps - (DD) Z-44
  52. FZR6htV.png - 242 dps - (DD) Tashkent
  53. teoxXfD.png - 241 dps - (DD) Chung Mu
  54. VmUuTV2.png - 234 dps - (DD) Black
  55. 61xpa9a.png - 233 dps - (DD) ZF-6
  56. FZR6htV.png - 213 dps - (DD) Udaloi
  57. 61xpa9a.png - 198 dps - (DD) Z-46
  58. FZR6htV.png - 182 dps - (DD) Neustrashimy
  59. 97lLypd.png - 182 dps - (DD) Mogador
  60. EuTpn1I.png - 176 dps - (DD) Jutland
  61. ZNQvScl.png - 158 dps - (BB) Musashi
  62. z1krLzK.png - 149 dps - (DD) Paolo Emilio
  63. ZNQvScl.png - 146 dps - (DD) Yugumo
  64. z1krLzK.png - 146 dps - (DD) Adriatico
  65. VmUuTV2.png - 106 dps - (DD) Benham

 

Thanks for doing this LWM.

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Is your methodology to use the short range total continuous AA for each mount, and then multiply it by the accuracy factor (BB 75%, CA 90%, DD 100%)?

What is with the 2/7 that you mention?

I would be more interested to know the individual AA values from each mount, which WG does not supply on the info screens. For instance, the AA values associated with Hood's rockets.

 

 

 

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Thanks so much Mouse. 

Don’t mess with Iowa, I guess. :cap_rambo:

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52 minutes ago, LittleWhiteMouse said:

The sustained AA values of vessels in World of Warships aren't straight forward.  It's modified by accuracy, which makes comparing the total output (nevermind the efficacy) of individual ships hard to discern.  To help correct this, I've started compiling lists of the approximate AA damage individual ships can dispense.  This was calculated by taking datamined sustained AA dps values per mount, dividing them by 2/7 and then multiplying them by the mount's accuracy rate and rounding up to the nearest whole number.  Errors will invariably have slipped through the cracks here, so please be patient.  Do note that raw AA dps does not necessarily speak to the effectiveness of the AA values in question.  Range factors a lot as does focus fire along with modifiers such as available commander skills, upgrades and consumables.

I've started with high-tier ships.  I'll be adding to this as I go.

Sustained AA DPS Totals of Tier IX Ships

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  1. VmUuTV2.png - 755 dps - (BB) Iowa
  2. GAa98AP.png - 751 dps - (CA) Johan de Witt
  3. VmUuTV2.png - 747 dps - (BB) Missouri
  4. VmUuTV2.png - 724 dps - (BB) Minnesota
  5. VmUuTV2.png - 641 dps - (CA) Alaska
  6. VmUuTV2.png - 641 dps - (CA) Alaska B
  7. VmUuTV2.png - 635 dps - (BB) Georgia
  8. teoxXfD.png - 603 dps - (CA) Sejong
  9. VmUuTV2.png - 599 dps - (CA) Buffalo
  10. 97lLypd.png - 599 dps - (BB) Jean Bart
  11. 97lLypd.png - 599 dps - (BB) Jean Bart B
  12. z1krLzK.png - 584 dps - (BB) Lepanto
  13. VmUuTV2.png - 564 dps - (CA) Tulsa
  14. 61xpa9a.png - 546 dps - (CA) Agir
  15. EuTpn1I.png - 539 dps - (CA) Neptune
  16. VmUuTV2.png - 534 dps - (CA) Seattle
  17. EuTpn1I.png - 520 dps - (BB) Lion
  18. 61xpa9a.png - 513 dps - (CA) Siegfried
  19. 97lLypd.png - 513 dps - (CA) Saint Louis
  20. 97lLypd.png - 511 dps - (CA) Carnot
  21. z1krLzK.png - 510 dps - (CA) Brindisi
  22. 61xpa9a.png - 503 dps - (BB) Friedrich der Große
  23. VmUuTV2.png - 481 dps - (BB) Kearsarge
  24. 61xpa9a.png - 474 dps - (CA) Roon
  25. FZR6htV.png - 461 dps - (CA) Dmitri Donskoi
  26. EuTpn1I.png - 456 dps - (BB) Marlborough
  27. EuTpn1I.png - 446 dps - (CA) Drake
  28. 61xpa9a.png - 444 dps - (BB) Pommern
  29. 61xpa9a.png - 444 dps - (BB) Pommern B
  30. 97lLypd.png - 443 dps - (BB) Alsace
  31. teoxXfD.png - 443 dps - (BB) Wujing
  32. z1krLzK.png - 442 dps - (BB) Marco Polo
  33. z1krLzK.png - 442 dps - (BB) Guiseppe Verdi
  34. oRLce4l.png - 431 dps - (DD) Friesland
  35. GAa98AP.png - 431 dps - (DD) Groningen
  36. teoxXfD.png - 404 dps - (CA) Dalian
  37. oRLce4l.png - 399 dps - (DD) Östergötland
  38. FZR6htV.png - 396 dps - (BB) Sovetsky Soyuz
  39. 61xpa9a.png - 395 dps - (BB) Prinz Ruprecht
  40. FZR6htV.png - 388 dps - (CA) Riga
  41. ZNQvScl.png - 365 dps - (BB) Izumo
  42. ZNQvScl.png - 359 dps - (CA) Azuma
  43. ZNQvScl.png - 338 dps - (BB) Hizen
  44. ZNQvScl.png - 333 dps - (CA) Ibuki
  45. teoxXfD.png - 316 dps - (BB) Bajie
  46. ZNQvScl.png - 302 dps - (DD) Kitakaze
  47. FZR6htV.png - 282 dps - (CA) Kronshtadt
  48. 61xpa9a.png - 278 dps - (DD) Felix Schultz
  49. FZR6htV.png - 258 dps - (BB) AL Sovetskaya Rossiya
  50. VmUuTV2.png - 250 dps - (DD) Fletcher
  51. 61xpa9a.png - 243 dps - (DD) Z-44
  52. FZR6htV.png - 242 dps - (DD) Tashkent
  53. teoxXfD.png - 241 dps - (DD) Chung Mu
  54. VmUuTV2.png - 234 dps - (DD) Black
  55. 61xpa9a.png - 233 dps - (DD) ZF-6
  56. FZR6htV.png - 213 dps - (DD) Udaloi
  57. 61xpa9a.png - 198 dps - (DD) Z-46
  58. FZR6htV.png - 182 dps - (DD) Neustrashimy
  59. 97lLypd.png - 182 dps - (DD) Mogador
  60. EuTpn1I.png - 176 dps - (DD) Jutland
  61. ZNQvScl.png - 158 dps - (BB) Musashi
  62. z1krLzK.png - 149 dps - (DD) Paolo Emilio
  63. ZNQvScl.png - 146 dps - (DD) Yugumo
  64. z1krLzK.png - 146 dps - (DD) Adriatico
  65. VmUuTV2.png - 106 dps - (DD) Benham

 

nice data but i think it would be wise to separate them into range, Eendracht at tier 7 for instance has 651 sustained AA at 90% accuracy (insert CV sweating) then one realise its only 3.5km...  

 

still funny to see CV trying to use dive bombers on it :cap_rambo:

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18 minutes ago, Dr_Seadog said:

Is your methodology to use the short range total continuous AA for each mount, and then multiply it by the accuracy factor (BB 75%, CA 90%, DD 100%)?

What is with the 2/7 that you mention?

I would be more interested to know the individual AA values from each mount, which WG does not supply on the info screens. For instance, the AA values associated with Hood's rockets.

Raw AA values are listed per mount type without taking into account rate of fire.  Let's take Ohio as an example:

  • Her 127mm/54 guns generate 50 damage per pulse up to a range of 6km with 75% accuracy
  • Her 76.2mm guns generate 75 damage per pulse up to a range of 4.0km with 75% accuracy
  • Her 40mm Bofors generate 72 damage per pulse up to a range of 4.0km with 75% accuracy
  • Her 20mm Oerlikons generate 78 damage per pulse up to a range of 2.0km with 70% accuracy

AA mounts fire approximately once every 0.29 seconds (specifically 2/7).  This gives us the AA values you see in port.  So accounting for this, we get the following:

  • 127mm/54:  175 dps at 6km at 75% accuracy
  • 76.2mm/50: 262.5dps at 4km at 75% accuracy
  • 40mm Bofors: 252dps at 4km at 75% accuracy
  • 20mm Oerlikons: 273dps at 2km at 70% accuracy

These values should be more familiar to those who have looked up AA in port.  But then you have to account for accuracy which simiply reduces the amount of damage done.  That lowers everything to:

  • At 6km:  131dps
  • At 4km: 386dps
  • At 2km: 191dps

For a grand total of 708dps for Ohio.

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4 minutes ago, pepe_trueno said:

nice data but i think it would be wise to separate them into range, Eendracht at tier 7 for instance has 651 sustained AA at 90% accuracy (insert CV sweating) then one realise its only 3.5km... 

still funny to see CV trying to use dive bombers on it :cap_rambo:

That's coming when I sort them by efficiency.  The problem is how to display it in a way that makes sense at a glance when there are nearly 100 entries at tier VIII, for example.

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1 minute ago, LittleWhiteMouse said:

Raw AA values are listed per mount type without taking into account rate of fire.  Let's take Ohio as an example:

  • Her 127mm/54 guns generate 50 damage per pulse up to a range of 6km with 75% accuracy
  • Her 76.2mm guns generate 75 damage per pulse up to a range of 4.0km with 75% accuracy
  • Her 40mm Bofors generate 72 damage per pulse up to a range of 4.0km with 75% accuracy
  • Her 20mm Oerlikons generate 78 damage per pulse up to a range of 2.0km with 70% accuracy

AA mounts fire approximately once every 0.29 seconds (specifically 2/7).  This gives us the AA values you see in port.  So accounting for this, we get the following:

  • 127mm/54:  175 dps at 6km at 75% accuracy
  • 76.2mm/50: 262.5dps at 4km at 75% accuracy
  • 40mm Bofors: 252dps at 4km at 75% accuracy
  • 20mm Oerlikons: 273dps at 2km at 70% accuracy

These values should be more familiar to those who have looked up AA in port.  But then you have to account for accuracy which simiply reduces the amount of damage done.  That lowers everything to:

  • At 6km:  131dps
  • At 4km: 386dps
  • At 2km: 191dps

For a grand total of 708dps for Ohio.

First, BIG THANKS for the work you did here!

Second, does this include DFAA or not (I presume not, but no harm in asking, right?)?

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3 minutes ago, LancerUlysses said:

First, BIG THANKS for the work you did here!

Second, does this include DFAA or not (I presume not, but no harm in asking, right?)?

It does not.  I'll do a theoretical maximum after I've finished cataloguing tiers VIII through X.

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Here's my notes for this tier, sorted by "effective" AA DPS.  This just sorts things by the formula { [ (range) -1km ] x dps } to value longer-ranged guns more.  It does not, however, properly evaluate just how much more valuable a longer ranged weapon actually is in practice.  I do intend to demonstrate just how much (or how little) damage planes actually take with theoretical and then demonstrative examples.

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8 minutes ago, LittleWhiteMouse said:

That's coming when I sort them by efficiency.  The problem is how to display it in a way that makes sense at a glance when there are nearly 100 entries at tier VIII, for example.

if i have to take a guess i would go with

ship name:  continuous damage  for each aura and the range they cover and  then the effective damage.

Effective damage would be the acumulated damage to a given plane at an average speed going from the edge of long range AA till it gets to the ship.

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TBH ... I wish AA performance expectations were more standardized across the board.  In RTS CV days I had a reasonable rote-memory feel for what ships were eminently strikable, what ships were risky and should be held for end-game when they had fewer mounts alive, and what ships were just no-fly-zones.  I don't play much CV now and both as a surface ship and a carrier I have a really hard time predicting and memorizing what's going to be actually impactful.  "First flight always gets through" post-rework meta has had a chilling effect on my interest or ability to keep track of what ship is going to kill 3 planes that don't matter vs 4 planes that don't matter.

If anything I'd appreciate an oversimplified metric like "every time the CV attempts a drop, expect to shoot down 5-6 planes from a t8, 3-4 from a tX" or the even simpler "(if your AA is full health and the CV squadron is full health) a competent t8 CV can get 1 drop, a tX CV 3 drops off on you."

 

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Interesting :fish_book: But according to certain players AA is just pretty light/fireworks and doesn't anything :Smile_teethhappy:

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13 minutes ago, LastRemnant said:

Interesting :fish_book: But according to certain players AA is just pretty light/fireworks and doesn't anything :Smile_teethhappy:

Erm....nobody says that it doesn't shoot down some planes. However, its efficiency and its general usefulness, pretty much can be questioned. But.....lets not dwell into this, right? 

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17 minutes ago, LastRemnant said:

Interesting :fish_book: But according to certain players AA is just pretty light/fireworks and doesn't anything :Smile_teethhappy:

Well, I'll get to that with some numbers to demonstrate what some people are complaining about.  But first, more raw numbers.  While I would love to do this for all tiers, I think the VIII, IX, X and XI meta is probably the best one to discuss given that this most often overlaps with the competitive meta too.

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25 minutes ago, Bandi73 said:

Erm....nobody says that it doesn't shoot down some planes. However, its efficiency and its general usefulness, pretty much can be questioned. But.....lets not dwell into this, right? 

 

Yeah well if you expect AA to make you immune to air attacks you are asking too much :fish_palm: Not even the real ones were immune :Smile_hiding:

 

19 minutes ago, LittleWhiteMouse said:

Well, I'll get to that with some numbers to demonstrate what some people are complaining about.  But first, more raw numbers.  While I would love to do this for all tiers, I think the VIII, IX, X and XI meta is probably the best one to discuss given that this most often overlaps with the competitive meta too.

 

Well other than tier 4 AA and below most AA from tier 6 and up seems to do the job :cap_rambo: Sometimes a little too well :fish_nerv:

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14 minutes ago, LastRemnant said:

Yeah well if you expect AA to make you immune to air attacks you are asking too much :fish_palm: Not even the real ones were immune :Smile_hiding:

Why are you "Cv people" like to present only extreme cases? That kind of ....'argumentation" is pretty much self defeating...FYI :) Coz 100% that it won't make the type more beloved, lolz....

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Mouse thank you for this.... been wanting these numbers for quite a while....

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6 hours ago, LittleWhiteMouse said:

The sustained AA values of vessels in World of Warships aren't straight forward.  It's modified by accuracy, which makes comparing the total output (nevermind the efficacy) of individual ships hard to discern.  To help correct this, I've started compiling lists of the approximate AA damage individual ships can dispense.  This was calculated by taking datamined sustained AA dps values per mount, dividing them by 2/7 and then multiplying them by the mount's accuracy rate and rounding up to the nearest whole number.  Errors will invariably have slipped through the cracks here, so please be patient.  Do note that raw AA dps does not necessarily speak to the effectiveness of the AA values in question.  Range factors a lot as does focus fire along with modifiers such as available commander skills, upgrades and consumables.

I've started with high-tier ships.  I'll be adding to this as I go.

Sustained AA DPS Totals of Tier IX Ships

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  1. VmUuTV2.png - 755 dps - (BB) Iowa
  2. GAa98AP.png - 751 dps - (CA) Johan de Witt
  3. VmUuTV2.png - 747 dps - (BB) Missouri
  4. VmUuTV2.png - 724 dps - (BB) Minnesota
  5. VmUuTV2.png - 641 dps - (CA) Alaska
  6. VmUuTV2.png - 641 dps - (CA) Alaska B
  7. VmUuTV2.png - 635 dps - (BB) Georgia
  8. teoxXfD.png - 603 dps - (CA) Sejong
  9. VmUuTV2.png - 599 dps - (CA) Buffalo
  10. 97lLypd.png - 599 dps - (BB) Jean Bart
  11. 97lLypd.png - 599 dps - (BB) Jean Bart B
  12. z1krLzK.png - 584 dps - (BB) Lepanto
  13. VmUuTV2.png - 564 dps - (CA) Tulsa
  14. 61xpa9a.png - 546 dps - (CA) Ägir
  15. EuTpn1I.png - 539 dps - (CA) Neptune
  16. VmUuTV2.png - 534 dps - (CA) Seattle
  17. EuTpn1I.png - 520 dps - (BB) Lion
  18. 61xpa9a.png - 513 dps - (CA) Siegfried
  19. 97lLypd.png - 513 dps - (CA) Saint Louis
  20. 97lLypd.png - 511 dps - (CA) Carnot
  21. z1krLzK.png - 510 dps - (CA) Brindisi
  22. 61xpa9a.png - 503 dps - (BB) Friedrich der Große
  23. VmUuTV2.png - 481 dps - (BB) Kearsarge
  24. 61xpa9a.png - 474 dps - (CA) Roon
  25. FZR6htV.png - 461 dps - (CA) Dmitri Donskoi
  26. EuTpn1I.png - 456 dps - (BB) Marlborough
  27. EuTpn1I.png - 446 dps - (CA) Drake
  28. 61xpa9a.png - 444 dps - (BB) Pommern
  29. 61xpa9a.png - 444 dps - (BB) Pommern B
  30. 97lLypd.png - 443 dps - (BB) Alsace
  31. teoxXfD.png - 443 dps - (BB) Wujing
  32. z1krLzK.png - 442 dps - (BB) Marco Polo
  33. z1krLzK.png - 442 dps - (BB) Guiseppe Verdi
  34. oRLce4l.png - 431 dps - (DD) Friesland
  35. GAa98AP.png - 431 dps - (DD) Groningen
  36. teoxXfD.png - 404 dps - (CA) Dalian
  37. oRLce4l.png - 399 dps - (DD) Östergötland
  38. FZR6htV.png - 396 dps - (BB) Sovetsky Soyuz
  39. 61xpa9a.png - 395 dps - (BB) Prinz Ruprecht
  40. FZR6htV.png - 388 dps - (CA) Riga
  41. ZNQvScl.png - 365 dps - (BB) Izumo
  42. ZNQvScl.png - 359 dps - (CA) Azuma
  43. ZNQvScl.png - 338 dps - (BB) Hizen
  44. ZNQvScl.png - 333 dps - (CA) Ibuki
  45. teoxXfD.png - 316 dps - (BB) Bajie
  46. ZNQvScl.png - 302 dps - (DD) Kitakaze
  47. FZR6htV.png - 282 dps - (CA) Kronshtadt
  48. 61xpa9a.png - 278 dps - (DD) Felix Schultz
  49. FZR6htV.png - 258 dps - (BB) AL Sovetskaya Rossiya
  50. VmUuTV2.png - 250 dps - (DD) Fletcher
  51. 61xpa9a.png - 243 dps - (DD) Z-44
  52. FZR6htV.png - 242 dps - (DD) Tashkent
  53. teoxXfD.png - 241 dps - (DD) Chung Mu
  54. VmUuTV2.png - 234 dps - (DD) Black
  55. 61xpa9a.png - 233 dps - (DD) ZF-6
  56. FZR6htV.png - 213 dps - (DD) Udaloi
  57. 61xpa9a.png - 198 dps - (DD) Z-46
  58. FZR6htV.png - 182 dps - (DD) Neustrashimy
  59. 97lLypd.png - 182 dps - (DD) Mogador
  60. EuTpn1I.png - 176 dps - (DD) Jutland
  61. ZNQvScl.png - 158 dps - (BB) Musashi
  62. z1krLzK.png - 149 dps - (DD) Paolo Emilio
  63. ZNQvScl.png - 146 dps - (DD) Yugumo
  64. z1krLzK.png - 146 dps - (DD) Adriatico
  65. VmUuTV2.png - 106 dps - (DD) Benham

Sustained AA DPS Totals of Tier X Ships
Note, no submarines are included -- they don't have sustained AA DPS.

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  1. VmUuTV2.png - 985 dps - (CV) Midway
  2. VmUuTV2.png - 820 dps - (CV) Franklin D. Roosevelt
  3. VmUuTV2.png - 800 dps - (BB) Vermont
  4. VmUuTV2.png - 772 dps - (BB) Montana
  5.  EuTpn1I.png- 743 dps - (BB) Incomparable
  6. oRLce4l.png - 711 dps - (DD) Ragnar
  7. VmUuTV2.png - 708 dps - (BB) Ohio
  8. 61xpa9a.png - 697 dps - (CV) Manfred von Richthofen
  9.  EuTpn1I.png- 678 dps - (CA) Minotaur
  10.  ZNQvScl.png- 676 dps - (CV) Hakuryū
  11. VmUuTV2.png - 665 dps - (CA) Puerto Rico
  12.  EuTpn1I.png- 643 dps - (CA) Goliath
  13. FZR6htV.png - 643 dps - (BB) Slava
  14. FZR6htV.png - 639 dps - (BB) Kremlin
  15. VmUuTV2.png - 636 dps - (CA) Worcester
  16. GAa98AP.png - 633 dps - (CA) Gouden Leeuw
  17. z1krLzK.png - 616 dps - (BB) Cristoforo Colombo
  18. z1krLzK.png - 598 dps - (CA) Venezia
  19. FZR6htV.png - 596 dps - (CV) Admiral Nakhimov
  20. ZNQvScl.png - 590 dps - (BB) Shikishima
  21. 97lLypd.png - 590 dps - (BB) Bourgogne
  22. 61xpa9a.png - 570 dps - (CA) Hindenburg
  23. ZNQvScl.png - 555 dps - (CA) Yoshino
  24. ZNQvScl.png - 555 dps - (CA) Yoshino B
  25. 61xpa9a.png - 552 dps - (BB) Preussen
  26. EuTpn1I.png - 551 dps - (BB) Thunderer
  27. VmUuTV2.png - 544 dps - (CA) Des Moines
  28. teoxXfD.png-  542 dps - (CA) Jinan
  29. 61xpa9a.png - 538 dps - (CV) Max Immelmann
  30. EuTpn1I.png - 536 dps - (CV) Audacious
  31. EuTpn1I.png - 528 dps - (BB) Conqueror
  32. VmUuTV2.png - 526 dps - (CA) Austin
  33. EuTpn1I.png - 519 dps - (CA) Gibraltar
  34. 97lLypd.png - 513 dps - (CA) Colbert
  35. 97lLypd.png - 510 dps - (BB) République
  36. 61xpa9a.png - 500 dps - (BB) Schlieffen
  37. FZR6htV.png - 499 dps - (CA) Stalingrad
  38. oRLce4l.png - 491 dps - (DD) Halland
  39. oRLce4l.png - 491 dps - (DD) Småland
  40. z1krLzK.png - 475 dps - (CA) Napoli
  41. VmUuTV2.png - 441 dps - (CA) Salem
  42. 61xpa9a.png - 440 dps - (BB) Großer Kurfürst   
  43. ZNQvScl.png - 434 dps - (BB) Yamato
  44. ZNQvScl.png - 434 dps - (BB) ARP Yamato
  45. EuTpn1I.png - 433 dps - (CA) Plymouth
  46. 61xpa9a.png - 423 dps - (DD) Elbing
  47. FZR6htV.png - 419 dps - (CA) Smolensk
  48. ZNQvScl.png - 417 dps - (CA) Zao
  49. 97lLypd.png - 416 dps - (CA) Henri IV
  50. FZR6htV.png - 401 dps - (CA) Moskva
  51. FZR6htV.png - 400 dps - (CA) Petropavlovsk
  52. FZR6htV.png - 388 dps - (CA) Alexander Nevsky
  53. EuTpn1I.png - 345 dps - (DD) Druid
  54. ZNQvScl.png - 316 dps - (DD) Harugumo
  55. 61xpa9a.png - 288 dps - (DD) Z-52
  56. 97lLypd.png - 274 dps - (DD) Marceau
  57. VmUuTV2.png - 272 dps - (DD) Gearing
  58. FZR6htV.png - 265 dps - (DD) Grozovoi
  59. teoxXfD.png - 255 dps - (DD) Yueyang
  60. FZR6htV.png - 240 dps - (DD) Khabarovsk
  61. FZR6htV.png - 226 dps - (DD) Delny
  62. 97lLypd.png - 210 dps - (DD) Kléber
  63. ZNQvScl.png - 208 dps - (DD) Hayate
  64. VmUuTV2.png - 179 dps - (DD) Forest Sherman
  65. dc50SRx.png - 165 dps - (DD) Vampire II
  66. EuTpn1I.png - 158 dps - (DD) Daring
  67. ZNQvScl.png - 142 dps - (DD) Shimakaze
  68. z1krLzK.png - 140 dps - (DD) Attilio Regolo
  69. VmUuTV2.png - 30 dps - (DD) Somers
  70. ZNQvScl.png - 9 dps - (CA) Kitakami

Sustained AA DPS Totals of Tier XI Ships

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  1. VmUuTV2.png - 712 dps - (CA) Annapolis
  2. 61xpa9a.png - 667 dps - (BB) Hannover
  3. ZNQvScl.png - 566 dps - (BB) Satsuma
  4. 97lLypd.png - 441 dps - (CA) Condé
  5. FZR6htV.png - 299 dps - (DD) Korkiy
  6. ZNQvScl.png - 202 dps - (DD) Yamagiri

Overall Comparison DPS Totals (Tiers IX, X, XI)

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  1. VmUuTV2.png - 985 dps - (CV - X) Midway
  2. VmUuTV2.png - 820 dps - (CV - X) Franklin D. Roosevelt
  3. VmUuTV2.png - 800 dps - (BB - X) Vermont
  4. VmUuTV2.png - 772 dps - (BB - X) Montana
  5. VmUuTV2.png - 755 dps - (BB - IX) Iowa
  6. GAa98AP.png - 751 dps - (CA - IX) Johan de Witt
  7. VmUuTV2.png - 747 dps - (BB - IX) Missouri
  8.  EuTpn1I.png- 743 dps - (BB - X) Incomparable
  9. VmUuTV2.png - 724 dps - (BB - IX) Minnesota
  10. VmUuTV2.png - 712 dps - (CA - XI) Annapolis
  11. oRLce4l.png - 711 dps - (DD - X) Ragnar
  12. VmUuTV2.png - 708 dps - (BB - X) Ohio
  13. 61xpa9a.png - 697 dps - (CV - X) Manfred von Richthofen
  14.  EuTpn1I.png- 678 dps - (CA - X) Minotaur
  15.  ZNQvScl.png- 676 dps - (CV - X) Hakuryū
  16. 61xpa9a.png - 667 dps - (BB - XI) Hannover
  17. VmUuTV2.png - 665 dps - (CA - X) Puerto Rico
  18.  EuTpn1I.png- 643 dps - (CA - X) Goliath
  19. FZR6htV.png - 643 dps - (BB - X) Slava
  20. VmUuTV2.png - 641 dps - (CA - IX) Alaska
  21. VmUuTV2.png - 641 dps - (CA - IX) Alaska B
  22. FZR6htV.png - 639 dps - (BB - X) Kremlin
  23. VmUuTV2.png - 636 dps - (CA - X) Worcester
  24. VmUuTV2.png - 635 dps - (BB - IX) Georgia
  25. GAa98AP.png - 633 dps - (CA - X) Gouden Leeuw
  26. z1krLzK.png - 616 dps - (BB - X) Cristoforo Colombo
  27. teoxXfD.png - 603 dps - (CA - IX) Sejong
  28. VmUuTV2.png - 599 dps - (CA - IX) Buffalo
  29. 97lLypd.png - 599 dps - (BB - IX) Jean Bart
  30. 97lLypd.png - 599 dps - (BB - IX) Jean Bart B
  31. z1krLzK.png - 598 dps - (CA - X) Venezia
  32. FZR6htV.png - 596 dps - (CV - X) Admiral Nakhimov
  33. ZNQvScl.png - 590 dps - (BB - X) Shikishima
  34. 97lLypd.png - 590 dps - (BB - X) Bourgogne
  35. z1krLzK.png - 584 dps - (BB - IX) Lepanto
  36. 61xpa9a.png - 570 dps - (CA - X) Hindenburg
  37. ZNQvScl.png - 566 dps - (BB - XI) Satsuma
  38. VmUuTV2.png - 564 dps - (CA - IX) Tulsa
  39. ZNQvScl.png - 555 dps - (CA - X) Yoshino
  40. ZNQvScl.png - 555 dps - (CA - X) Yoshino B
  41. 61xpa9a.png - 552 dps - (BB - X) Preussen
  42. EuTpn1I.png - 551 dps - (BB - X) Thunderer
  43. 61xpa9a.png - 546 dps - (CA - IX) Ägir
  44. VmUuTV2.png - 544 dps - (CA - X) Des Moines
  45. teoxXfD.png-  542 dps - (CA - X) Jinan
  46. EuTpn1I.png - 539 dps - (CA - IX) Neptune
  47. 61xpa9a.png - 538 dps - (CV - X) Max Immelmann
  48. EuTpn1I.png - 536 dps - (CV - X) Audacious
  49. VmUuTV2.png - 534 dps - (CA - IX) Seattle
  50. EuTpn1I.png - 528 dps - (BB - X) Conqueror
  51. VmUuTV2.png - 526 dps - (CA - X) Austin
  52. EuTpn1I.png - 520 dps - (BB - IX) Lion
  53. EuTpn1I.png - 519 dps - (CA - X) Gibraltar
  54. 61xpa9a.png - 513 dps - (CA - IX) Siegfried
  55. 97lLypd.png - 513 dps - (CA - IX) Saint Louis
  56. 97lLypd.png - 513 dps - (CA - X) Colbert
  57. 97lLypd.png - 511 dps - (CA - IX) Carnot
  58. z1krLzK.png - 510 dps - (CA - IX) Brindisi
  59. 97lLypd.png - 510 dps - (BB - X) République
  60. 61xpa9a.png - 503 dps - (BB - IX) Friedrich der Große
  61. 61xpa9a.png - 500 dps - (BB - X) Schlieffen
  62. FZR6htV.png - 499 dps - (CA - X) Stalingrad
  63. oRLce4l.png - 491 dps - (DD - X) Halland
  64. oRLce4l.png - 491 dps - (DD - X) Småland
  65. VmUuTV2.png - 481 dps - (BB - IX) Kearsarge
  66. z1krLzK.png - 475 dps - (CA - X) Napoli
  67. 61xpa9a.png - 474 dps - (CA - IX) Roon
  68. FZR6htV.png - 461 dps - (CA - IX) Dmitri Donskoi
  69. EuTpn1I.png - 456 dps - (BB - IX) Marlborough
  70. EuTpn1I.png - 446 dps - (CA - IX) Drake
  71. 61xpa9a.png - 444 dps - (BB - IX) Pommern
  72. 61xpa9a.png - 444 dps - (BB - IX) Pommern B
  73. 97lLypd.png - 443 dps - (BB - IX) Alsace
  74. teoxXfD.png - 443 dps - (BB - IX) Wujing
  75. z1krLzK.png - 442 dps - (BB - IX) Marco Polo
  76. z1krLzK.png - 442 dps - (BB - IX) Guiseppe Verdi
  77. VmUuTV2.png - 441 dps - (CA - X) Salem
  78. 97lLypd.png - 441 dps - (CA - XI) Condé
  79. 61xpa9a.png - 440 dps - (BB - X) Großer Kurfürst   
  80. ZNQvScl.png - 434 dps - (BB - X) Yamato
  81. ZNQvScl.png - 434 dps - (BB - X) ARP Yamato
  82. oRLce4l.png - 431 dps - (DD - IX) Friesland
  83. GAa98AP.png - 431 dps - (DD - IX) Groningen
  84. EuTpn1I.png - 433 dps - (CA - X) Plymouth
  85. 61xpa9a.png - 423 dps - (DD - X) Elbing
  86. FZR6htV.png - 419 dps - (CA - X) Smolensk
  87. ZNQvScl.png - 417 dps - (CA - X) Zao
  88. 97lLypd.png - 416 dps - (CA - X) Henri IV
  89. teoxXfD.png - 404 dps - (CA - IX) Dalian
  90. FZR6htV.png - 401 dps - (CA - X) Moskva
  91. FZR6htV.png - 400 dps - (CA - X) Petropavlovsk
  92. oRLce4l.png - 399 dps - (DD - IX) Östergötland
  93. FZR6htV.png - 396 dps - (BB - IX) Sovetsky Soyuz
  94. 61xpa9a.png - 395 dps - (BB - IX) Prinz Ruprecht
  95. FZR6htV.png - 388 dps - (CA - IX) Riga
  96. FZR6htV.png - 388 dps - (CA - X) Alexander Nevsky
  97. ZNQvScl.png - 365 dps - (BB - IX) Izumo
  98. ZNQvScl.png - 359 dps - (CA - IX) Azuma
  99. EuTpn1I.png - 345 dps - (DD - X) Druid
  100. ZNQvScl.png - 338 dps - (BB - IX) Hizen
  101. ZNQvScl.png - 333 dps - (CA - IX) Ibuki
  102. teoxXfD.png - 316 dps - (BB - IX) Bajie
  103. ZNQvScl.png - 316 dps - (DD - X) Harugumo
  104. ZNQvScl.png - 302 dps - (DD - IX) Kitakaze
  105. FZR6htV.png - 299 dps - (DD - XI) Korkiy
  106. 61xpa9a.png - 288 dps - (DD - X) Z-52
  107. FZR6htV.png - 282 dps - (CA - IX) Kronshtadt
  108. 61xpa9a.png - 278 dps - (DD - IX) Felix Schultz
  109. 97lLypd.png - 274 dps - (DD - X) Marceau
  110. VmUuTV2.png - 272 dps - (DD - X) Gearing
  111. FZR6htV.png - 265 dps - (DD - X) Grozovoi
  112. FZR6htV.png - 258 dps - (BB - IX) AL Sovetskaya Rossiya
  113. teoxXfD.png - 255 dps - (DD - X) Yueyang
  114. VmUuTV2.png - 250 dps - (DD - IX) Fletcher
  115. 61xpa9a.png - 243 dps - (DD - IX) Z-44
  116. FZR6htV.png - 242 dps - (DD - IX) Tashkent
  117. teoxXfD.png - 241 dps - (DD - IX) Chung Mu
  118. FZR6htV.png - 240 dps - (DD - X) Khabarovsk
  119. VmUuTV2.png - 234 dps - (DD - IX) Black
  120. 61xpa9a.png - 233 dps - (DD - IX) ZF-6
  121. FZR6htV.png - 226 dps - (DD - X) Delny
  122. FZR6htV.png - 213 dps - (DD - IX) Udaloi
  123. 97lLypd.png - 210 dps - (DD - X) Kléber
  124. ZNQvScl.png - 208 dps - (DD - X) Hayate
  125. ZNQvScl.png - 202 dps - (DD - XI) Yamagiri
  126. 61xpa9a.png - 198 dps - (DD - IX) Z-46
  127. FZR6htV.png - 182 dps - (DD - IX) Neustrashimy
  128. 97lLypd.png - 182 dps - (DD - IX) Mogador
  129. EuTpn1I.png - 176 dps - (DD - IX) Jutland
  130. VmUuTV2.png - 179 dps - (DD - X) Forest Sherman
  131. dc50SRx.png - 165 dps - (DD - X) Vampire II
  132. ZNQvScl.png - 158 dps - (BB - IX) Musashi
  133. EuTpn1I.png - 158 dps - (DD - X) Daring
  134. z1krLzK.png - 149 dps - (DD - IX) Paolo Emilio
  135. ZNQvScl.png - 146 dps - (DD - IX) Yugumo
  136. z1krLzK.png - 146 dps - (DD - IX) Adriatico
  137. ZNQvScl.png - 142 dps - (DD - X) Shimakaze
  138. z1krLzK.png - 140 dps - (DD - X) Attilio Regolo
  139. VmUuTV2.png - 106 dps - (DD - IX) Benham
  140. VmUuTV2.png - 30 dps - (DD - X) Somers
  141. ZNQvScl.png - 9 dps - (CA - X) Kitakami

 

 

Figures Musashi would still be the worst AA for a battleship at her tier...worst AA, worst secondaries, worst turret traverse, worst everything but the Yamato hull/armor profile/hitpoints and Yamato main battery (and oddly better rudder shift as well).

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...Which, to be brutally fair, is already OP as heck at Tier IX. Anywho, thanks for the AA DPS chart Mouse! Interesting stuff! ~-~°(^v^)°v~-~

...Also, Iowa has MORE sustained AA DPS than Missouri? Color me slightly surprised. I thought it was the other way around, tbh.

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1 hour ago, LittleWhiteMouse said:

Well, I'll get to that with some numbers to demonstrate what some people are complaining about.  But first, more raw numbers.  While I would love to do this for all tiers, I think the VIII, IX, X and XI meta is probably the best one to discuss given that this most often overlaps with the competitive meta too.

I WOULD like to know where California sits in comparison to Tier VIIIs and Tier IXs...that would be pretty interesting info!

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