244 HarmonieuxKingOfTheJaJas Members 90 posts 4,443 battles Report post #1 Posted July 1 I know that there is a mod pack that can be installed that contravenes the rules. WG has been very adamant that they have sophisticated systems in place to catch players using these illegal cheats. They are either lying or completely out of touch. Yesterday, I encountered an Alaska player who was able to hit enemy ships with nearly 100% accuracy, every single shot. So what, right? Sure, there are excellent players out there who can pull that off on the reg, and there are good players who just pull out an unreal game now and then. Fair enough. The problem I had in that game though, is that he was doing it to ships that hadn't been spotted in quite some time. He got me with one. I was in Marceau, the fastest ship possible, with speed boost activated, and I hadn't been spotted for 15 seconds, and I made a sharp change in my course. BLAP, a hyper accurate guess shot at a blank spot on the map from 15km away. Riiiiight.....So I look him up after the game, and he's a 54% WR player, so pretty solid, and I guess maybe he was just in the zone. BUT! Over the last few months, he's suddenly become a MEGA UNICUM. His WR has soared to c.70% and he's doubled his average damage! There's just no way that after 8000 games of 54% play, he all of a sudden blossomed into the most dangerous player on the server, seemingly overnight. This HAS to be either someone cheating, or someone allowing a FAR better player to play their account. Given the guess shots he pulled off, I'm guessing the former. If someone can pull this off for several months without the sophisticated anti-cheat system catching it, then there is nothing stopping anyone else, and I suspect that most players inclined to install these cheats are well aware of the fact. There are cheaters in this game, and there are almost certainly way more of them than you think there are. 4 2 4 6 7 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
163 [P2W] jbc98k Beta Testers 239 posts 16,059 battles Report post #2 Posted July 1 Its all about Karma 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
101 [TCCN] triley70 Members 118 posts 10,698 battles Report post #3 Posted July 1 And the replay is where? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
244 HarmonieuxKingOfTheJaJas Members 90 posts 4,443 battles Report post #4 Posted July 1 2 minutes ago, triley70 said: And the replay is where? Who cares? The proof is in the stats more than anything. 14 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,409 [OIL-1] z9_ [OIL-1] Members 1,911 posts Report post #5 Posted July 1 You're already being cheated so hard by WG that you couldn't tell the difference. You're already being cheated so hard by WG that you shouldn't even care if a player is cheating. Fun fact: I blasted a couple Marceau's yesterday in Grand while playing an Alsace. My stats stink, but my aiming is good. 6 minutes ago, HarmonieuxKingOfTheJaJas said: The proof is in the stats more than anything. Stat padding. Been there, done that. Too easy. Got bored. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,200 [HINON] tcbaker777 Members 9,153 posts 13,701 battles Report post #6 Posted July 1 (edited) replay or it didnt happen, a stats increase over MONTHS means nothing, he could have been diving up with better players or he learned from his mistakes over those months and got better, or as z9 pointed out, stat padding, seal clubbing exists Edited July 1 by tcbaker777 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
375 [WOLF1] Boomer625 Members 1,151 posts 2,228 battles Report post #7 Posted July 1 7 minutes ago, HarmonieuxKingOfTheJaJas said: Who cares? The proof is in the stats more than anything. Stats can be easily manipulated, especially if the player has just started back up playing the account. Replays are needed to make sure that you definitely were not spotted and what the Alaska was aiming at from its perspective. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
244 HarmonieuxKingOfTheJaJas Members 90 posts 4,443 battles Report post #8 Posted July 1 5 minutes ago, z9_ said: Stat padding. Been there, done that. Too easy. Got bored. Yeah, you're right. He went 7,500 games at 54% and 50k dmg and then suddenly decided to stat pad and win 70% of his games with 95k avg damage. Good point. 5 minutes ago, Boomer625 said: Stats can be easily manipulated, especially if the player has just started back up playing the account. Replays are needed to make sure that you definitely were not spotted and what the Alaska was aiming at from its perspective. lol stfu 7 minutes ago, tcbaker777 said: stats increase over MONTHS means nothing, yeah, it means nothing when a slightly better than average player becomes a super unicum overnight. Nothing to see here, happens all the time. 1 2 1 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,314 Compassghost SuperTest Coordinator, Beta Testers 7,113 posts 13,531 battles Report post #9 Posted July 1 I don't necessarily see what's wrong with blind-firing at blank spots on the map. It's possible to hit things, and if you have nothing else to shoot at, you're always free to cycle some ammo, right? 1 3 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,200 [HINON] tcbaker777 Members 9,153 posts 13,701 battles Report post #10 Posted July 1 (edited) alright guys, this guy is a waste of time, hes not going to give a replay because itll show that he was bull crapping the whole time, hes just mad that theres players better than him Edited July 1 by tcbaker777 10 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
244 HarmonieuxKingOfTheJaJas Members 90 posts 4,443 battles Report post #11 Posted July 1 I love how no one is able to take relevant information from the original post. 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
348 [-N-] reza577 Beta Testers 268 posts 6,811 battles Report post #12 Posted July 1 18 minutes ago, HarmonieuxKingOfTheJaJas said: I know that there is a mod pack that can be installed that contravenes the rules. WG has been very adamant that they have sophisticated systems in place to catch players using these illegal cheats. They are either lying or completely out of touch. Yesterday, I encountered an Alaska player who was able to hit enemy ships with nearly 100% accuracy, every single shot. So what, right? Sure, there are excellent players out there who can pull that off on the reg, and there are good players who just pull out an unreal game now and then. Fair enough. The problem I had in that game though, is that he was doing it to ships that hadn't been spotted in quite some time. He got me with one. I was in Marceau, the fastest ship possible, with speed boost activated, and I hadn't been spotted for 15 seconds, and I made a sharp change in my course. BLAP, a hyper accurate guess shot at a blank spot on the map from 15km away. Riiiiight.....So I look him up after the game, and he's a 54% WR player, so pretty solid, and I guess maybe he was just in the zone. BUT! Over the last few months, he's suddenly become a MEGA UNICUM. His WR has soared to c.70% and he's doubled his average damage! There's just no way that after 8000 games of 54% play, he all of a sudden blossomed into the most dangerous player on the server, seemingly overnight. This HAS to be either someone cheating, or someone allowing a FAR better player to play their account. Given the guess shots he pulled off, I'm guessing the former. If someone can pull this off for several months without the sophisticated anti-cheat system catching it, then there is nothing stopping anyone else, and I suspect that most players inclined to install these cheats are well aware of the fact. There are cheaters in this game, and there are almost certainly way more of them than you think there are. Do you know how hard it is to write a cheating program? No programmer will spend months on a cheat program for a game like WOWS with 10k player base lol. Hence why there are so many Call of duty cheat programs. Because there are a lot of players willing to buy it. and COD company is constantly updating their anti cheat program. My guess in regards to your situation. is that. you are some old boomer who doesn't know how good players play. 2 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
244 HarmonieuxKingOfTheJaJas Members 90 posts 4,443 battles Report post #13 Posted July 1 1 minute ago, tcbaker777 said: alright guys, this guy is a waste of time, hes not going to give a replay because itll show that he was [edited]'ing the whole time, hes just mad that theres players better than him Yeah, totally making it up. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,200 [HINON] tcbaker777 Members 9,153 posts 13,701 battles Report post #14 Posted July 1 Just now, HarmonieuxKingOfTheJaJas said: Yeah, totally making it up. if youre not, then show the replay, we cant just take someones word for it, if people were banned because someone THOUGHT they were cheating, there wouldnt be any games left to play, because everyone would be banned from them 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
777 [-K-] GoldPile Alpha Tester 1,914 posts 8,396 battles Report post #15 Posted July 1 4 minutes ago, HarmonieuxKingOfTheJaJas said: lol stfu An articulate and well thought out rebuttal, absolutely devastated. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
244 HarmonieuxKingOfTheJaJas Members 90 posts 4,443 battles Report post #16 Posted July 1 2 minutes ago, reza577 said: Do you know how hard it is to write a cheating program? No programmer will spend months on a cheat program for a game like WOWS with 10k player base lol. Hence why there are so many Call of duty cheat programs. Because there are a lot of players willing to buy it. and COD company is constantly updating their anti cheat program. My guess in regards to your situation. is that. you are some old boomer who doesn't know how good players play. There are publicly available youtube videos of players using the illegal mods to cheat. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
329 [REKTD] SuperComm4 Members 669 posts 11,689 battles Report post #17 Posted July 1 2 minutes ago, HarmonieuxKingOfTheJaJas said: Yeah, you're right. He went 7,500 games at 54% and 50k dmg and then suddenly decided to stat pad and win 70% of his games with 95k avg damage. Good point. lol stfu yeah, it means nothing when a slightly better than average player becomes a super unicum overnight. Nothing to see here, happens all the time. Jeez dude - quick to vitriolic responses, when all that is needed is a replay... If it was such a big deal, as you are making the case for (and proof of cheating is....a BIG DEAL!) - why not post a replay? It is not hard. People here have posted previously steps for how to do this; and would be happy to assist you with how to post a replay. It would take less time than it takes you to spew your vitriolic backlash at everyone who has and will continue to doubt your story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
244 HarmonieuxKingOfTheJaJas Members 90 posts 4,443 battles Report post #18 Posted July 1 1 minute ago, tcbaker777 said: if youre not, then show the replay, we cant just take someones word for it, if people were banned because someone THOUGHT they were cheating, there wouldnt be any games left to play, because everyone would be banned from them I don't want to go through 40 replays to find the right one. That's it. I don't care if you believe it or not. Look his stats up and figure it out on your own. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,200 [HINON] tcbaker777 Members 9,153 posts 13,701 battles Report post #19 Posted July 1 (edited) 2 minutes ago, HarmonieuxKingOfTheJaJas said: I don't want to go through 40 replays to find the right one. That's it. I don't care if you believe it or not. Look his stats up and figure it out on your own. burden of proof isnt on me, its on you, youre the one that accused it, YOURE the one that has to prove it Edited July 1 by tcbaker777 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
329 [REKTD] SuperComm4 Members 669 posts 11,689 battles Report post #20 Posted July 1 Just now, HarmonieuxKingOfTheJaJas said: I don't want to go through 40 replays to find the right one. That's it. I don't care if you believe it or not. Look his stats up and figure it out on your own. You came here to discuss the issue. Replays are time stamped. Again, less time to do it the right way as opposed to making a big fuss and throwing snarky commentary. What did you expect? Ah, to troll people on the forums. Carry on - everyone has to get their kicks somehow... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
472 [KRAB] MaxL_1023 Members 928 posts 7,402 battles Report post #21 Posted July 1 My Alaska on EU averages 15% more damage per game than your "cheater" manages and I guarantee I am not using any cheat mods. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
271 [BONKS] UwUnicum Members 427 posts 10,006 battles Report post #22 Posted July 1 Have you considered the fact that the dude may have sold his account? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
279 [HKC] Viva_Palestine Members 882 posts Report post #23 Posted July 1 1 minute ago, HarmonieuxKingOfTheJaJas said: I don't want to go through 40 replays to find the right one. That's it. I don't care if you believe it or not. Look his stats up and figure it out on your own. The only way to get feedback on your gripe is to provide a video, particularly because you are coming off as completely unreasonable and therefore unreliable. As it stands the gent who nuked you is in my mind comfortably residing in the competent player zone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
763 [-AFK-] Depraved_Miscreant Members 1,359 posts 16,525 battles Report post #24 Posted July 1 11 minutes ago, HarmonieuxKingOfTheJaJas said: I love how no one is able to take relevant information from the original post. You need evidence, This is the internet, we're not taking your word for it, "Believe me, I am telling the truth, there are cheaters everywhere, honest!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,002 [GWG] BrushWolf [GWG] Alpha Tester 28,448 posts 14,968 battles Report post #25 Posted July 1 7 minutes ago, HarmonieuxKingOfTheJaJas said: I don't want to go through 40 replays to find the right one. That's it. I don't care if you believe it or not. Look his stats up and figure it out on your own. We can't look the player up because you have not and cannot post the name. Post the replay or go silent. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
