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Your developers, your managers made a mess of this game with the introduction of HYBRID BATTLESHIPS. You have created scenarios where one team has to fight 4 CVs with just 1. My team had to face off against 3 ISES and a KAGA versus 1 LEXINGTON. What the hell did u think was going to happen? Ships on our team were being cross dropped by 4 CVS. Why on earth are hybrid battleships in the battleship que? Either move them to CV que or make a a hybrid BB que. My team gave up within 5 minutes because this was absolutely stupid because there was no point in even trying to play. Is this really what u want to do? Clean your house up before we the customers pack our wallets up. Fix it right away, you can make an emergency patch within a week.

Finally does the ISE REALLY need to drop 10 torpedoes with 5 planes. For god sake even TIER 8 CVS CANT DO THAT.

I have included a picture so u guys get a better idea of this nonsense with hybrid bbs

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People seem to conveniently forget that Ise's planes are weak even for the tier, and that her torps do absolutely piss all in damage.

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It's 8 baby torpedoes from 4 planes, so it's roughly the equivalent of one 4 torp drop from a Saipan. They have a very low flood chance, and the target actually has to work hard to get hit by all 8 torps with how wide the drop is. Also, with how wide the drop is, many of the torps will hit your TDS if you have one.

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17 minutes ago, Anij said:

What the hell did u think was going to happen? Ships on our team were being cross dropped by 4 CVS. Why on earth are hybrid battleships in the battleship que?

Actually as far as the statistics are concerned at this point she has rather poor performance for a tier 6 BB that is relatively exclusive. Mutsu and Fuso both have more damage with Mutsu also carrying slightly more matches.

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If you look even the Tier 5 Premium Jap BBs are managing to be more dangerous. 

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30 minutes ago, ThemasterTanker1 said:

People seem to conveniently forget that Ise's planes are weak even for the tier, and that her torps do absolutely piss all in damage.

Unfortunately it puts one team under constant spotting and secondly on the defensive from the start; after all its not just about being cross dropped by 4 CVs although that's a huge issue in itself. So 3 ISES + Kaga means 1 target  eats 15 torpedoes in the first air attack. Yeah your right they dont cause too many floods but they do eat into your HP just fine so by the time the enemy BBs  come around they really are just mopping up. Finally i dont think this is right in any way. Situations like this tend to tick a lot of players off and the more frequently they happen the greater the back lash tends to be. It would be wise for WG to act pro actively on this and get it under control because they certainly lost control of how rockets turned out and it ended up with rockets being nerfed to oblivion.

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Dude hybrids are meh they are a one-trick pony :Smile_hiding: They can only do that trick every 2 minutes :Smile_teethhappy:

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18 minutes ago, Anij said:

Unfortunately it puts one team under constant spotting and secondly on the defensive from the start; after all its not just about being cross dropped by 4 CVs although that's a huge issue in itself. So 3 ISES + Kaga means 1 target  eats 15 torpedoes in the first air attack. Yeah your right they dont cause too many floods but they do eat into your HP just fine so by the time the enemy BBs  come around they really are just mopping up. Finally i dont think this is right in any way. Situations like this tend to tick a lot of players off and the more frequently they happen the greater the back lash tends to be. It would be wise for WG to act pro actively on this and get it under control because they certainly lost control of how rockets turned out and it ended up with rockets being nerfed to oblivion.

The spotting is the biggest deal here.  Frankly, as far as damage output the Ise is near the bottom.  Much more reliable numbers will be put up by the other BBs.  That said, with Tone she is a functional cruiser with the option of a radar with unrestricted range every three minutes.  She is a brutal anti DD platform.

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3x ise and 1x CV gives red team a serious asymetrical scouting capability. Cross dropping is obviously a problem, but wouldn't want to be any of those guys:

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1 hour ago, Anij said:

Fix it right away, you can make an emergency patch within a week.

 

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1 hour ago, ThemasterTanker1 said:

People seem to conveniently forget that Ise's planes are weak even for the tier, and that her torps do absolutely piss all in damage.

It's the psychological damage that hurts the most /s

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1 hour ago, Anij said:

Hi
Your developers, your managers made a mess of this game with the introduction of HYBRID BATTLESHIPS. You have created scenarios where one team has to fight 4 CVs with just 1. My team had to face off against 3 ISES and a KAGA versus 1 LEXINGTON. What the hell did u think was going to happen? Ships on our team were being cross dropped by 4 CVS. Why on earth are hybrid battleships in the battleship que? Either move them to CV que or make a a hybrid BB que. My team gave up within 5 minutes because this was absolutely stupid because there was no point in even trying to play. Is this really what u want to do? Clean your house up before we the customers pack our wallets up. Fix it right away, you can make an emergency patch within a week.

Finally does the ISE REALLY need to drop 10 torpedoes with 5 planes. For god sake even TIER 8 CVS CANT DO THAT.

I have included a picture so u guys get a better idea of this nonsense with hybrid bbs

shot-21.06.21_14.03.47-0251.jpg

Ah, they say a picture is worth a thousand words.

But when it’s  a picture of 24 words, it’s worth, well ,(ssiiiiighhh),24 words.

 

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6 minutes ago, Koogus said:

It's the psychological damage that hurts the most /s

Don't know why people are so traumatized by CVs DDs, are far more dangerous :Smile_sceptic:

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47 minutes ago, Anij said:

Unfortunately it puts one team under constant spotting and secondly on the defensive from the start; after all its not just about being cross dropped by 4 CVs although that's a huge issue in itself. So 3 ISES + Kaga means 1 target  eats 15 torpedoes in the first air attack. Yeah your right they dont cause too many floods but they do eat into your HP just fine so by the time the enemy BBs  come around they really are just mopping up. Finally i dont think this is right in any way. Situations like this tend to tick a lot of players off and the more frequently they happen the greater the back lash tends to be. It would be wise for WG to act pro actively on this and get it under control because they certainly lost control of how rockets turned out and it ended up with rockets being nerfed to oblivion.

Spotting differential is made up by the fact that Ise doing spotting is doing literally nothing of a BB's job.

Second, good luck getting four ships to co-ordinate that well in Random.

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32 minutes ago, LastRemnant said:

Dude hybrids are meh they are a one-trick pony :Smile_hiding: They can only do that trick every 2 minutes :Smile_teethhappy:

They're more like Swiss Army Knives, they can do a bunch of things poorly, but at the end of the day, you're still better off with a real knife and just abusing it as a bottle opener and as a screwdriver.

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19 minutes ago, Koogus said:

It's the psychological damage that hurts the most /s

Indeed -- it's the CV JEEBIES causing players to do exceptionally dumb things.   Even with CVs the biggest impact is mental.  Spotting is moot -- both teams retain the ability.  Players seem to forget that aspect because again, it's in the head.  The biggest threat to players with CV JEEBIES is turning broadside to waiting ships.  Dodging spit ball torps only to eat a broadside AP salvo is counter productive.  Then they come to the forum and whine because they failed to understand what the good play was at that point and it was the big guns on the ship, not the aircraft, that did them in.

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26 minutes ago, CV_Jeebies said:

Then they come to the forum and whine because they failed to understand what the good play was at that point and it was the big guns on the ship, not the aircraft, that did them in.

In other words, the good play is let the planes have their pound of flesh...

The way you present it makes me prefer giving my HP to anyone else but the planes.

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A limit of hybrids along with carriers may be needed. Time will tell if WG does anything.

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2 hours ago, Anij said:

constant spotting

Oh, exaggerate a bunch, why don't you.   Ise can do that ONCE in two minutes.  Once.

Get over it.  If you're scared of Ise/Tone planes, maybe you need to find another game.

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29 minutes ago, Drifter_X said:

A limit of hybrids along with carriers may be needed. Time will tell if WG does anything.

Once the new and shiny wears off, there will be no need. You see a lot of Ise right now, because she's fairly cheap as far as premiums go, and there's been requests for her since at least Closed Beta. Ise, Tone and the Mogami CV hybrid have collectively been the most requested ships in the history of the game.

When you get down to it, Ise is easy to use, but difficult to use well. 99% of players will be better off in a Fuso.

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47 minutes ago, SgtBeltfed said:

Once the new and shiny wears off, there will be no need. You see a lot of Ise right now, because she's fairly cheap as far as premiums go, and there's been requests for her since at least Closed Beta. Ise, Tone and the Mogami CV hybrid have collectively been the most requested ships in the history of the game.

When you get down to it, Ise is easy to use, but difficult to use well. 99% of players will be better off in a Fuso.

Its really not that bad, yes. I do suspect though that two CVs and three hybrids will not be allowed in a single game session. Its starting to become toxic in that albeit rare situation.

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22 minutes ago, Drifter_X said:

Its really not that bad, yes. I do suspect though that two CVs and three hybrids will not be allowed in a single game session. Its starting to become toxic in that albeit rare situation.

I doubt it will happen enough to be worth dealing with once things calm down. WG doesn't do the same thing with radar/German hydro equipped ships, I don't see them doing it here.

As far as toxic, the easily triggered will have blown their tops when they saw the CV in the first place, and are going to froth that there's planes in the match at all. They're already screaming bloody murder about Ise's torps, just because they're delivered with planes, and people have convinced themselves they're always the victim. Ise's torps actually kinda stink, and you're constantly torn most of the time between using the guns, or using the torps planes, and it's a gamble every time you do it.

At the end of the day, as long as there isn't several researchable lines of hybrids that are superior to regular ships, it's not going to be any more a problem than the easily triggered and CV's, and hybrids really won't even add to it.

I see the Russian CV's generating a lot more salt, and see a host of problems with the whole concept behind them not actually working like WG thinks they're going to work. I see a lot of problems with the single larger attack and how it's going to make AA less effective than it is.

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If they are blowing their minds over this, wait until they get a mixed tier battle with a cv, 2 or 3 Ise and a division of Tones.  :Smile_popcorn:

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Just now, michael_zahnle said:

If they are blowing their minds over this, wait until they get a mixed tier battle with a cv, 2 or 3 Ise and a division of Tones.  :Smile_popcorn:

Instead of CDS, it's just plain PDS.

 

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