2,479 [NG-NL] Reymu Members 7,286 posts 13,074 battles Report post #1 Posted June 14, 2021 Yes, we know WG said however long ago they weren't going to add subs, but they did. While doing sec+ studying earlier, random thought: "What if escort CVs come with helicopters instead of planes?" WG is forbidden, of course, to do this just because. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,909 Rollingonit Members 4,871 posts 16,611 battles Report post #2 Posted June 14, 2021 Flying helicopters was one of my favorite thing to do in the Battlefield series. (i know it wouldnt be anything like that) Anyways, why is WG forbidden to do it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,222 [-TRM-] xHeavy Members 5,566 posts Report post #3 Posted June 14, 2021 (edited) Actually why not? Ive used helicopters in the past, say in Strike fleet with Commodore 64. What I did was have the fleet go EMCON quiet and not active radar while the single helicopter is far forward with a seeking radar. As it detects and displays inbound vampires, I then assign the SAM's to them on the Ticondergoa.The rest of the fleet has their own missiles and point defense. However in the game back then you had to visit each ship and work their systems. They are not networked swarmed AI as they are together today in real life when one ship may automatically choose any other ship in it's force to take on the threat. Today's hypersonic inbounds would reach iceland from the Kola area just a few moments longer than it takes to put the whole carrier battle group to general quarters missile. Scary stuff. With that evolving, I think we will see at some point a US Carrier deleted by probably China with such weapons. Way more advanced and faster than just choppers and SAM's Such are limitations in the gaming. I think they had helicopters just after WW2 and one of my relatives was taken out of Chosin with two others in a chopper. Which was quite something when the Marines were very careful where to send the chopper to get the badly injured out in the face of the enemy. (The Chinese were in the hills above them generally by the hundreds of thousands and flowing constantly like water.) If I did see choppers in wows that would be where I get the hell out. Its no longer world war two gaming. Ignoring for the moment paper ships and some ships close to the 1960's that already exist in the game that would never exist in ww2. I think wows has a bigger problem financially. Various sources are discussing publicly that problem as of today and my bank has contacted me to inform me to be careful how much I spend and when for the time being. Im not worried about choppers at this point. If the entire game is shut down by the USA then I will go to another game that has none of the issues we ran into today. Edited June 14, 2021 by xHeavy 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
75 [4_0_4] rallybackmonkey Members 334 posts 2,244 battles Report post #4 Posted June 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, Reymu said: Yes, we know WG said however long ago they weren't going to add subs, but they did. While doing sec+ studying earlier, random thought: "What if escort CVs come with helicopters instead of planes?" WG is forbidden, of course, to do this just because. I mean, in theory you could have helicopters in ASW roles for Tier X CVs, I found references to ASW helicopters from the late 1950s (and we know Wargaming is willing to go that late). I think before that they were strictly Transports. I don’t think anyone had dedicated attack copters till Vietnam. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,752 [SHOOT] Crokodone Beta Testers 5,342 posts 16,318 battles Report post #5 Posted June 14, 2021 Helicopters would be period and ASW appropriate; especially at higher tiers. Helicopters could also be used to apply a special forces mechanic into the game to provide temporary LoS of ships hiding behind islands or Cap Circles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,136 [MELON] Koogus Members 1,081 posts 3,025 battles Report post #6 Posted June 14, 2021 Helicopters would be a cool addition. What about autogyros too? *akitsu maru intensifies* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,157 [WOLF5] Khafni [WOLF5] Members 6,559 posts 30,327 battles Report post #7 Posted June 14, 2021 15 minutes ago, Reymu said: Yes, we know WG said however long ago they weren't going to add subs, but they did. While doing sec+ studying earlier, random thought: "What if escort CVs come with helicopters instead of planes?" WG is forbidden, of course, to do this just because. Shhh! Please, if they didn't have this idea already don't give it to them! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,247 neptunes_wrath Members 3,326 posts 596 battles Report post #8 Posted June 14, 2021 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,042 [GUTS] Mizzerys_Fate [GUTS] Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 8,782 posts 30,854 battles Report post #9 Posted June 14, 2021 Several ships have heli pads Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
17,954 [WOLF5] HazeGrayUnderway Members 39,301 posts 31,553 battles Report post #10 Posted June 14, 2021 (edited) Helicopters are just one of those things in the slippery slope of going eventually more and more into Cold War era stuff with technology appropriate of the time. Helicopters. Naval jet aircraft. Missiles. Cold War-era ships and remodels of WWII-era ships to use missiles. Forrestal below in 1957, she was commissioned in 1955. And her again in 1962-63. Helicopters were not a thing for the predominantly WWII-era that covers this game. I know a few 1950s era stuff slipped into WoWS, but if you want more, you'll slide into the above stuff eventually. Again, a slippery slope. Edited June 14, 2021 by HazeGrayUnderway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,247 neptunes_wrath Members 3,326 posts 596 battles Report post #11 Posted June 14, 2021 whats next,,, RANSOMEWARE ATTACK VEHICHLES!??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
313 [WOLF2] o4x4 [WOLF2] Members 834 posts 34,787 battles Report post #12 Posted June 14, 2021 Helicopters should be easy to add, and can be controlled just like subs, except it's in the sky. They can carry ASW and rockets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,247 neptunes_wrath Members 3,326 posts 596 battles Report post #13 Posted June 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, o4x4 said: Helicopters should be easy to add, and can be controlled just like subs, except it's in the sky. They can carry ASW and rockets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,847 [SGSS] jags_domain Members 6,915 posts Report post #14 Posted June 14, 2021 No Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,420 [DRFTR] SKurj Beta Testers 7,879 posts Report post #15 Posted June 14, 2021 see ... we are the reason we can't have nice things Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,247 neptunes_wrath Members 3,326 posts 596 battles Report post #16 Posted June 14, 2021 Just now, SKurj said: see ... we are the reason we can't have nice things 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
437 Lynx7386 Members 246 posts 380 battles Report post #17 Posted June 14, 2021 Can we please pick an era and stick to it? This is (intended) to be a ww1/ww2 era game, based on the tier you're in, with some slight extensions into post war. We absolutely do not need helicopters, nuclear subs, cruise missiles, or any of that [edited]. The only way it'll happen is if they add another set of tiers for modern era, and separate them from the ww2 era tiers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,664 [CLUMP] LastRemnant Members 2,874 posts 3,029 battles Report post #18 Posted June 14, 2021 Yeah I am really not seen it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,130 [SAINT] Jolly_Rodgered [SAINT] Members 1,881 posts 23,932 battles Report post #19 Posted June 15, 2021 I would like to call in Zeppelin air strikes. Very slow, very tedious, very annoying, Zeppelin air strikes. Keep it at the low tiers but I'd pay real money for a ship that has that gimmick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,717 [WHIPI] Snoopys_Odyssey Members 1,640 posts 19,224 battles Report post #20 Posted June 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Reymu said: Yes, we know WG said however long ago they weren't going to add subs, but they did. While doing sec+ studying earlier, random thought: "What if escort CVs come with helicopters instead of planes?" WG is forbidden, of course, to do this just because. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
741 [CUDA] Swervenkill Members 1,548 posts 15,106 battles Report post #21 Posted June 15, 2021 Autogyros actually fly like slow airplanes. The gyro acts like a wing, though more modern autogyros have better slow-speed performance. I can see using helicopters as spotters but rather than extending range, they increase enemy concealment range. I can't see using them in a WW2 environment as a weapon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12,715 [PSP] Snargfargle [PSP] Members 19,325 posts Report post #22 Posted June 15, 2021 (edited) Here's a good article for those interested in the history of the helicopter as an anti-submarine weapon. They didn't see a lot of use in WWII but testing then led to more extensive use later. https://media.defense.gov/2017/Dec/14/2001856503/-1/-1/0/HELICOPTER.PDF Edited June 15, 2021 by Snargfargle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites