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2 minutes ago, Diison said:

Where is it...

We'll probably just have to get them some time.  Getting the game back up was the priority.

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looks like they rolled back to a previous version after this mornings update not going so well.

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Everyone knows vampires don't come out until after sunset.  But seriously, it has taken 6-7 hours just to get the servers back up.  

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I absolutely hated jervis and abandoned the entire brit DD line because of it (though i love icarus for some reason).  I am very intrigued by vampire 2 but is it worth going for if i didnt like jervis?    Too bad you cant rent it for a couple thousand RPs to try it out.  

 

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13 minutes ago, AnimaL21 said:

I absolutely hated jervis and abandoned the entire brit DD line because of it (though i love icarus for some reason).  I am very intrigued by vampire 2 but is it worth going for if i didnt like jervis?    Too bad you cant rent it for a couple thousand RPs to try it out.  

 

Shame you quit at Jervis mate because Lightning is an amazing ship!! I rebought Jervis and kept Lightning once I got Daring. Vampire 2 is basically a “better” Daring

Im basing that purely on what I’ve seen so far of course!

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1 hour ago, Diison said:

Where is it...

Go take another look - Looks like it's arrived.

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57 minutes ago, Bravo4zero said:

Shame you quit at Jervis mate because Lightning is an amazing ship!! I rebought Jervis and kept Lightning once I got Daring. Vampire 2 is basically a “better” Daring

Im basing that purely on what I’ve seen so far of course!

Based on my experience Vampire isn't a better Daring, but it is very similar. You give up short fast smoke for longer crawling smoke, you give up long duration short range hydro for normal duration normal range hydro, and you lose the heals for a single 12km torp launcher. 

I love Vampire, but Daring hasn't been unseated as my favourite T10 DD. 

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Hey

Watch the new Flamu video where he div's up with another person in another Vampire 2.  Its quite hilarious but notice how extremely crappy the fire starting is; Like 4 fires for over 400 battery hits.  Certainly better than then new German DD line for sure.


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2 hours ago, sasquatch_research said:

Hey

Watch the new Flamu video where he div's up with another person in another Vampire 2.  Its quite hilarious but notice how extremely crappy the fire starting is; Like 4 fires for over 400 battery hits.  Certainly better than then new German DD line for sure.


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Factually incorrect, Vamp 2 is an insane fire starter.

Fires are based on RNG, which means that 1 game by no means gives an accurate picture of a ships fire-starting potential. Vamp 2 is a better fire starter than Daring, and Daring is considered as one, if not the best fire-starting DD in the game.

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34 minutes ago, SirPent13 said:

Factually incorrect, Vamp 2 is an insane fire starter.

Fires are based on RNG, which means that 1 game by no means gives an accurate picture of a ships fire-starting potential. Vamp 2 is a better fire starter than Daring, and Daring is considered as one, if not the best fire-starting DD in the game.

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Nothing factually incorrect; I said to watch the video and see how many fires were started, based on shells landed.  When any ships says 14% plus flags, you know your lucky to see 5% and I have gone whole games with the likes of Azuma or any other suck "fire starter" ships and never set a single fire, and yet go into another game and set 10 fires, so please explain how RNG changes from game to game.  It's garbage argument at best; one  that Wargaming doesn't tell you; call it game manipulation, inconsistencies which is ruining this game.

PS:  Did you watch the video?

 

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2 minutes ago, sasquatch_research said:

Hey 

Nothing factually incorrect; I said to watch the video and see how many fires were started, based on shells landed.  When any ships says 14% plus flags, you know your lucky to see 5% and I have gone whole games with the likes of Azuma or any other suck "fire starter" ships and never set a single fire, and yet go into another game and set 10 fires, so please explain how RNG changes from game to game.  It's garbage argument at best; one  that Wargaming doesn't tell you; call it game manipulation, inconsistencies which is ruining this game. 

PS:  Did you watch the video? 

  

Pete 

 

When it says 14%, that's before any innate fire resistance is added in... Tier 10 ships get ~50% innate fire resistance, and fire prevention lowers that even more. https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Fire#Fire_Resistance

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Just now, Compassghost said:

 

When it says 14%, that's before any innate fire resistance is added in... Tier 10 ships get ~50% innate fire resistance, and fire prevention lowers that even more. https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Fire#Fire_Resistance

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Yes, I'm aware of that.

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1 minute ago, sasquatch_research said:

Hey 

Nothing factually incorrect; I said to watch the video and see how many fires were started, based on shells landed.  When any ships says 14% plus flags, you know your lucky to see 5% and I have gone whole games with the likes of Azuma or any other suck "fire starter" ships and never set a single fire, and yet go into another game and set 10 fires, so please explain how RNG changes from game to game.  It's garbage argument at best; one  that Wargaming doesn't tell you; call it game manipulation, inconsistencies which is ruining this game.

 

Pete

Rewatched the videos just for you, and saw that half the shells hits were from AP, thats only ~200-250 shells that were HE. Also, many times he was shooting at SS that was already on fire, so that means there is a 0% chance of starting another fire in that area. So thats maybe ~100 shells that really had the chance to start a fire. So again, you cant just say oh look 400 shell hits and 4 fires, ship must be bad at starting fires. in your words "Its a garbage argument at best"

In terms of RNG, its literally just math and statistics. There's no "game manipulation", there are no "inconsistencies". It's just straight-up math. There will be games where you have bad RNG and don't start many fires. There will be games where it seems every salvo is a fire. But, those are the outliers. Not to mention all the other factors that go into the fire starting.

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Just now, ThiccLoliThighs said:

no reason to play z52 after playing this ship. Its better cap contester and holder in every way.

Play it as an open water gunboat, it's suprisingly effective

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Just now, SirPent13 said:

Play it as an open water gunboat, it's suprisingly effective

ah true.I had to some games to get damage

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4 hours ago, VeatherVitch said:

Based on my experience Vampire isn't a better Daring, but it is very similar. You give up short fast smoke for longer crawling smoke, you give up long duration short range hydro for normal duration normal range hydro, and you lose the heals for a single 12km torp launcher. 

I love Vampire, but Daring hasn't been unseated as my favourite T10 DD. 

I’ll have to wait to give it a try .. still short on RB points by about 6k so gonna wait till the x2 before I get it

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Still waiting for this ship to appear in the armory. 

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8 minutes ago, CosmoX said:

Still waiting for this ship to appear in the armory. 

Did you check Research Bureau?

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18 hours ago, Diison said:

Where is it...

I saw one in Ranked last night.

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It's in the Armory under the Research Bureau tab for 55,000 research points.

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With no heal this thing has no real sustain... 

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On 4/23/2021 at 5:16 PM, AnimaL21 said:

I absolutely hated jervis and abandoned the entire brit DD line because of it (though i love icarus for some reason).  I am very intrigued by vampire 2 but is it worth going for if i didnt like jervis?    Too bad you cant rent it for a couple thousand RPs to try it out.  

 

jervis is ok .  Jutland & Daring are very good boats.  Because the DDs are slow you don't want to play to far away from support.  Use short duration smokes to farm and break line of sight.

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