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Thank you for your work Mouse.

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Great breakdown!

I got her last night and only have 2 games in, but i'm loving it already. Gunning down a Minotaur with AP reload booster is definitely a rush!

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I see a LWM review, I upvote it.

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A German destroyer having no hydro is only a tragedy because everyone's grown accustomed to German destroyers having hydro.

American, French and Japanese destroyers also do not have hydro (though IIRC Harekaze 2 is going to change that situation for the IJN when she eventually gets here). And yes, I certainly wish for it in my Fletcher... but I can't bemoan the loss of something I never had to begin with.

As far as ZF- 6 is concerned, though...

 

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Thanks for the review!

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2 hours ago, LittleWhiteMouse said:

Their punchy appeal is predicated upon performing properly when presented with paper-thin panelling upon most perimeter parts of the panoply of presently proffered peers

Alliteration at its finest. 

Well done Mouse!

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2 hours ago, LittleWhiteMouse said:

But you're probably one of those nutters who enjoyed AL Yukikaze, you sick momo.

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As a French DD player I'm quite used to trying to catch enemy DDs with no vision tools of my own, so no hydro is nothing significant for me. 

Though out of interest, I wonder which you would have preferred, hydro at the cost of smoke, or the current version? Imo giving it hydro on top of the tools it has now would make it a tad overpowered. 

Quite frankly I just feel you're undervaluing the combination of the MBRB and the good concealment. ZF-6 quite comfortably outguns all the DDs with similar or lower concealment, minus Vampire II and Småland with its stealth radar, boasting the 3rd highest HE DPM of T9 DDs. 

Not to mention, if the enemy DDs tries to turn and kite you can get probably 4 or 5 salvos of fusing AP in, 2 as they turn out and go broadside, then 2 more as they angle out to run. 

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There's probably like 100 players in total that can actually play this ship and enjoy it.

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2 minutes ago, MrDeaf said:

There's probably like 100 players in total that can actually play this ship and enjoy it.

This ship isn't that niche. I think you're being overly hard on it. It has competitive firer power and concealment, just those two alone put it ahead of some other DD.

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59 minutes ago, MrDeaf said:

There's probably like 100 players in total that can actually play this ship and enjoy it.

What this "enjoy" you speak of?


I thought most gameplay was a series of "AUGH my stupid teammates" moments, coupled with an occassional "oh crud, that was a dumb move I made"    with the very occasional  "Today I was a GAWD/GAWDESS!!"  experience.


i.e. a lot like dating

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2 hours ago, Rouxi said:

This ship isn't that niche. I think you're being overly hard on it. It has competitive firer power and concealment, just those two alone put it ahead of some other DD.

I'm not so sure about the firepower front.  It has the shortest torpedo range at its tier outside of Yolo Emilio (it shares this distinction with the Tashkent and the Mogador.)  That's not good.  And the HE is good for farming but bad for dealing decisive damage against enemy DDs, and German AP is finicky as always.  Working with german AP angles on destroyers is an enormous PITA / exercise in frustration against other destroyers.  So this thing farms well against enemy cruisers and battleships, except you can do that better with either of the Soviet DDs, the French DDs, or the Fletcher even.

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Outside 1-2 premiums, German DDs have been some strange, mediocre ships.  ZF-6 and this new split seem to continue this tradition.

 

They try to sell you on some gimmicks here and there, but in the end, like German Engineering, it's more complicated than it needs to be.

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Thanks for the excellent review, Mouse. This is the second time that I’m skipping a dockyard event, and after reading this I’m pretty comfortable with that decision. What I’m seeing here is giving me the impression that this ship is essentially a slightly better Z-35, and Z-35 is the worst ship that I’ve ever played, so...

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Oh Miss Mouse, I can't thank you enough. I read all the review and notice the ZF-6 being a "meh bote" like you used to say, and more important, you help me decide which is a good tier IX destroyer to have, Friesland! :Smile_Default:

Im so gratefull with you @LittleWhiteMouse because I don't have too many time to play and you spare me 38.150 doubloons! You re the best World of Warhsips reviewer, really, many thanks and stay well and safe :Smile_honoring::Smile_medal:

 

PS: Sorry if my english is weird :Smile_bajan2:

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Thanks for the review LWM. Always enjoy those valuable details. 

Base on what I experience playing against them in game. This ship do not feels weak in rank. Consider the fact that T9 is a Jurassic Park for DD, this really speak a lot. 

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21 hours ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

 

American, French and Japanese destroyers also do not have hydro (though IIRC Harekaze 2 is going to change that situation for the IJN when she eventually gets here).

 

Harekaze 2 ???!!!?

Is there a WG attempt to make up for the Yuduchi and the removal of the Asashio! Is salvation of IJN torp boats nigh?

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Thanks Mouse for a great review! :Smile_honoring:

A DD review is a nice break from WG BB ship spam.

The list of DD concealments is great! :Smile_great: Got to see if I can print it.

 

Oh and the alliteration,:Smile_medal:!

 

Thanks!!!

 

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