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When is the Petro getting nerfed?

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It's AP is still ludicrously overpowered and it's ludicrously tanky for a heavy cruiser. It's so overpowered it was the first ship banned from KoTS.

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technically all the cvs were banned too since rework. Petro is indeed the only surface ship to receive a universal ban despite being rule legal otherwise. If nothing changes abput petro it may even just become a permanently banned ship in future kots since the vote was pretty much falling on petro.

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To be honest being banned from competitive doesn't necessarily mean it's OP in Randoms too. 

In the case of Petro however, something should be done. Maybe a good start would be to lift up the ship a bit more so as not to have that silly freeboard and tiny belt which many ships miss.

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Since WG bought KOTS, I'm pretty sure both will be allowed there soon again.

Petro's AP is only OP if you show too much broadside.It won't do much if you're properly angled. So just watch your side if dealing with one.
For me it's more its ridiculous armour concerning me.

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Ok,

I admit my ignorance. What's KOTS?

 

Kings Of The Sea?

 

 

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29 minutes ago, BattleBard149 said:

Kings Of The Sea? 

Yup, annual world wide bragging rights. 

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3 hours ago, warheart1992 said:

To be honest being banned from competitive doesn't necessarily mean it's OP in Randoms too. 

In the case of Petro however, something should be done. Maybe a good start would be to lift up the ship a bit more so as not to have that silly freeboard and tiny belt which many ships miss.

A proper nerf on petro would be to replace her 50mm deck with a ~30mm one. That, and reduce her midsections to the same thickness; but lower her citadel.

As is, Petropavlovsk is immune to conventional 203mm HE spam in most area's of the ship.

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2 hours ago, TheArc said:

Yup, annual world wide bragging rights. 

Semiannual, actually. :Smile-_tongue:

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WG just needs to do what they dod for Kremlin: cut the aa mount health by 50%. 

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23 minutes ago, Nevermore135 said:

Semiannual, actually. :Smile-_tongue:

Shows how much attention I pay to it ;) 

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5 hours ago, Zaydin said:

It's AP is still ludicrously overpowered and it's ludicrously tanky for a heavy cruiser. It's so overpowered it was the first ship banned from KoTS.

It was banned in Kots because they do not allow carriers.  In this no CV, limited BB environment it was deemed the strongest and was thus banned.  Random battles have CVs and as many as 6 or more BBs so this ban isn't pertinent to overall balance.

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Don't worry, WG will nerf Petro's secondary range by 500m

because they play their game, unlike other game devs.

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6 hours ago, Zaydin said:

It's AP is still ludicrously overpowered and it's ludicrously tanky for a heavy cruiser. It's so overpowered it was the first ship banned from KoTS.

It's soviet bias dude. Answer is never. 

Remember, soviet fantasy navy won WW2. 

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Are people still having struggle with Petros? lol.

 

AAHH! Their AP is too OP *shows broadside*

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2 hours ago, Crokodone said:

A proper nerf on petro would be to replace her 50mm deck with a ~30mm one. That, and reduce her midsections to the same thickness; but lower her citadel.

As is, Petropavlovsk is immune to conventional 203mm HE spam in most area's of the ship.

Or just remove the rear turret's 360' capability and keep it like the Riga.  Would definitely reduce a lot of the potential on the ship.

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Just now, Ranari said:

Or just remove the rear turret's 360' capability and keep it like the Riga.  Would definitely reduce a lot of the potential on the ship.

Yes it would, but it still would be HE immune from anything under 240 without IFHE. Maybe increase the ships stealth to compensate.

 

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Just now, Crokodone said:

Yes it would, but it still would be HE immune from anything under 240 without IFHE. Maybe increase the ships stealth to compensate.

 

It depends on how you want to nerf it.

Being HE immune is one thing, but you'd cut down on some of the Petro's offensive potential by removing the rear turret's 360' capability.

Tanky ships are fine if they have lower offensive potential.  But in the case of the Petro, it has the best of all three combinations (offense, defense, and utility).

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1 minute ago, Ranari said:

But in the case of the Petro, it has the best of all three combinations (offense, defense, and utility).

I wouldn't say Petropavlovsk has good utility. Her dubiously short radar is of little use other than location updates on missing enemy ships.

Getting rid of the 360° turret travers would help, but it's that massively broad HE immunity that makes Petropavlovsk so easily aggressive. But the 360° turrets would be a good start: go from there.

 

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Oh please, stop with these 'nerf' threads.  Just because a Petro touched in your dirty spot does not mean the ship is OP.  It just means you need to learn how to play.

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I'm sick of these nerf threads too. They create ships that have unique abilities and instead of learning to counter them, all these entitled whiners run to the forums to mewl and snivel for nerfs.

If they get their way, every ship will be a boring monochromatic levelled out clone of every other ship.

Personally, I like ships with distinct strengths and the challenge of taking them down. The victory is that much greater.

So put on your big girl panties and get to it and stop whining for nerfs.

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1 hour ago, Torenico said:

Are people still having struggle with Petros? lol.

 

AAHH! Their AP is too OP *shows broadside*

It's not the AP. It's the armor scheme and great maneuverability that's making people ban it in KOTS.

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The Petro brings out the most brain dead of play - 20 minutes of bow tanking. 

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47 minutes ago, AADusNuffin said:

It's not the AP. It's the armor scheme and great maneuverability that's making people ban it in KOTS.

Its the combination of that silly acceleration rate+low speed high rotation of the hull, the armor scheme and the bias OP guns that over-perform their caliber range in every category possible. Remove just ONE of those benefits and the ship suddenly is no longer OP and actually in balance with the other ship lines. 

Look at the soviet Azure Lane ship as a great example. Soviet bias armor scheme but USN guns. That Azure Lane ship does not come remotely close to how absurdly dominant in its tier the soviet ship is. All because it does not have the stacked bias advantages working together to give it easymode dominance. 

There is a reason why in ranked and clan battles you see a significant amount of soviet ships. 

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