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I know that Sovremenny is an awesome ship, but I'm not sure how member of  the class is a 'legend' and how exactly a Cold War and still in active duty class becomes a legend which implies being old, historical and in the dimming pages of memory.  

 

 

The named destroyer above was retired recently, and its a good thing she was turned into a museum ship.  I am still smarting about the scrapping of the Kresta class Kerch which was retired a year or two ago and she went to the scrap yards instead.  The Kerch was the last of her class, a true epitome of Soviet Cold War surface warship design, and just plain awesome visually.

 

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Basically hey we can build something too that is not a smoking heap pile...

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2 hours ago, Eisennagel said:

not sure how member of  the class is a 'legend

To be fair, the Sovremenny was the Apex of Soviet DD design of that era; kinda like the first flight of Ticonderoga's was for ours (if your American.) 

Personally, it would be nice if there was a global fund to preserve one of each class of cold war naval vessels built, but both governments begrudge the citizenry even the most bleakest of glimps into even prior technology; look at DCS...

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6 hours ago, Eisennagel said:

I know that Sovremenny is an awesome ship, but I'm not sure how member of  the class is a 'legend' and how exactly a Cold War and still in active duty class becomes a legend which implies being old, historical and in the dimming pages of memory.  

Eh, if you wanted to call the Iowas a legend in the 80's, I'm not sure there would be that many that would argue against it.

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It's a nice thing to see that all 4 x Iowa Class battleships are museums here in the United States. I was a tour guide aboard the U.S.S. Missouri myself long ago when I lived in Hawaii. It was an honor.

 

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12 hours ago, Crokodone said:

To be fair, the Sovremenny was the Apex of Soviet DD design of that era; kinda like the first flight of Ticonderoga's was for ours (if your American.) 

Personally, it would be nice if there was a global fund to preserve one of each class of cold war naval vessels built, but both governments begrudge the citizenry even the most bleakest of glimps into even prior technology; look at DCS...

 

It can be argued that Project 1155 Udaloys were the best of the Soviet DD designs.  There are seven of them that are still in service today.  Far from being port queens, Udaloys are constantly deployed in exercises, show of force and friendly diplomatic missions to the point they have become the face of the modern Russian Navy.   After the modernization refit of the Marshall Shapashnikov, five and then all seven of the ships have been greenlit for modernization.   The Sovremennys might have stoked more concern, as these were propagandized as "Aegis killers' while the Udaloys were less glamorous ASW vessels.  

 

While the Sovremenny was one of the two apex of Soviet DD design, the other being the Udaloys, bad maintenance after the Cold War  --- probably bad fuel and poor water quality --- damaged the steam powerplants of the remaining five Sovremennys in the Russian fleet to the point of no return.  They are barely seen in deployment and exercises these days, and they are hang around in ports waiting for their eventual fate to be decided.   Its no fault of the class though, all four of the Sovremennys of the PLAN are highly active in comparison, aside from being laid over for modernization.

 

The Kerch would have been a great opportunity for a museum ship.  She was laid down in 1971 and was only retired in 2020.  However, she was sent to the breakers, and this was said as she was the only surviving Kara or Kresta III class cruiser.  This ship is bristling with so many arrays she extrudes this cyberpunk vibe.  All that Cold War sensors and weapons, if preserved, would be great for people to study.  Compared to the Sovremenny, none of the equipment in Kerch are in service any longer for the tall square radar right there.  The sensors and weapons on the Sovremenny are still in service, so they are common, not unique or rare.

 

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A good decision was to preserve and keep the Smetlivy in the museum.  This picture right here shows her next to the Kerch.

 

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This ship was laid down in 1966, and was only truly retired in 2020, making her one of the oldest active warship in the world until last year.   The Kashin class was the first warships in the world to use gas turbines so there it gets its footnote in history right there.  While smokey at times, these engines were durable unlike the touchy steam turbines in the Sovremenny.  Smetlivy was no port queen unlike so many other ships, she was constantly deployed escorting transports to Syria in recent years, chasing down US and NATO warships entering the Black Sea to the last of her active days.  This ship in my book is a true living legend, seeing five decades of service, but she's not the only survivor of her class.   Four of her class remain in active service in the Indian Navy.   It was a good decision that she was turned into a museum ship.   She might probably be the topic of another Wargaming Naval Legends video one day.

 

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She does not have her original Styx missiles like below.  The older the stuff the more charismatic.   Instead she has the much more modern Switchblades.  

 

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As a final note, members of the Kashin class had names that are familiar with WoWs players, such as Ognevoi and Krasny Krym.

 

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The PLAN sister ships recently ran an exercise.  This shows both the refitted one, which is where the photo is taken, and the Project 956EM variant.  The variant has longer missile tubes, a radar and two Kashtan CIWS at the back, instead of the four AK-630 CIWS and the rear AK-130 dual guns.   The refitted model uses YJ-12 missiles instead of Moskits, hence the square canisters, replaced every Russian radar with a Chinese one, fitted two VLS front and back, and an HQ-10 (RAM copy) launcher with 24 missiles.

 

 

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