833 [_GS_] CallingElvis Members 674 posts 13,558 battles Report post #1 Posted February 27, 2021 They should all be banned for 30 days as they are ruining the game for 24 players. Simple. 4 1 2 4 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,819 [DRFTR] SKurj Beta Testers 6,067 posts Report post #2 Posted February 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Toxygene said: They should all be banned for 30 days as they are ruining the game for 24 players. Simple. 20 2 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
764 SuperUnicumInBed Members 386 posts 1,619 battles Report post #3 Posted February 27, 2021 If it's at tier X and intentional, or their records show a certain pattern then yes. If it's at tier IV and the player is new, no. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,856 [SLI] Burnsy Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 10,328 posts Report post #4 Posted February 27, 2021 Because that makes sense. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,819 [DRFTR] SKurj Beta Testers 6,067 posts Report post #5 Posted February 27, 2021 just a random match, at least the other team didn't have to wade through the soup... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,590 [PVE] IfYouSeeKhaos Members 10,582 posts 28,076 battles Report post #6 Posted February 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Toxygene said: They should all be banned for 30 days as they are ruining the game for 24 players. Simple. Question is...were you in a position to support even 1 of them or were you hiding behind an island waiting for all the red DDs to die before you would come out & risk scratching your paint? 8 2 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,300 [WOLFC] GRIMLOCK__ Members 2,672 posts Report post #7 Posted February 27, 2021 7 minutes ago, IfYouSeeKhaos said: Question is...were you in a position to support even 1 of them or were you hiding behind an island waiting for all the red DDs to die before you would come out & risk scratching your paint? Story of my morning that.... People seem to believe the longer you are behind a rock, the more Xp you get. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,133 [GWG] BrushWolf [GWG] Alpha Tester 28,665 posts 15,081 battles Report post #8 Posted February 27, 2021 41 minutes ago, IfYouSeeKhaos said: Question is...were you in a position to support even 1 of them or were you hiding behind an island waiting for all the red DDs to die before you would come out & risk scratching your paint? Another question, how good were the DD players on the other team. DD's are brittle and it doesn't take more than a minor mistake to end up dead. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,967 [TSG4] ObiphanKenobi Volunteer Moderator, Privateers 3,757 posts 20,048 battles Report post #9 Posted February 27, 2021 2 hours ago, SKurj said: 20 8 <----- red team would love it But then we can also argue the probability that green team does not care and move on ... so it could any where between 1-8. Probability 1: all the green team doesnt care but only OP, so that will be 1 Probability 2: 1 of the remaining and OP does care so that will be 2 so on so forth We also need to consider that 4 dd players: are they all die happy doing so? or 1-4 die happily? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,401 Compassghost Supertest Coordinator 7,205 posts 14,253 battles Report post #10 Posted February 27, 2021 DD: Plays the objective, tries to spot, dies. BB: Waste of DD! DD: Plays safe, lives. BB: Coward DD! 12 1 7 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 [-TRM-] DeletedUser Members 0 posts Report post #11 Posted February 27, 2021 DD = Damned if you do and Damned if you DONT. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,174 [SYN] chewonit [SYN] Beta Testers 2,548 posts 15,077 battles Report post #12 Posted February 27, 2021 Post the replay and let's all have a laugh! Not sure who would we laugh at though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
262 [SYN] Ensign_Pulver_2016 [SYN] Members 1,460 posts 11,895 battles Report post #13 Posted February 27, 2021 Hey, DDs, I am using my dead eye skills. Y'all got this, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
79 [NEMO] ruggus99 Members 172 posts 14,943 battles Report post #14 Posted February 27, 2021 30 minutes ago, xHeavy said: DD = Damned if you do and Damned if you DONT. Just Double Damned 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55 [OGZR] parkedo Members 63 posts 13,456 battles Report post #15 Posted February 27, 2021 And BBs who don't move at least two rows up from the spawn point, should they be banned as well? 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,243 [O_O] desmo_2 Members 7,579 posts 19,981 battles Report post #16 Posted February 27, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, parkedo said: And BBs who don't move at least two rows up from the spawn point, should they be banned as well? Bingo. @Toxygene, you and parkedo (quoted above) have similar battle counts (yours is higher by almost 1k). Yet, I am inclined to think he has incurred a bit more wisdom on game things than you. Please resist the urge to rush to the forums after a bad game. Edited February 28, 2021 by desmo_2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
84 [WOLFX] 99_Luftdoubloons Members 89 posts 20,597 battles Report post #17 Posted February 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, parkedo said: And BBs who don't move at least two rows up from the spawn point, should they be banned as well? Nooo, they are the guardians of the team, the solid solution of enemy attempts to sneak from behind, our proud snipers. They're always here in the forums, in battle, in private messages, to remind those ignorant DDs how to do their jobs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,176 [BOTES] awildseaking Members 2,359 posts 9,857 battles Report post #18 Posted February 27, 2021 (edited) The larger problem with early DD deaths is that WG has not revisited their nation balancing formula, so some teams will be left without the right number of ships for the role. It's not fun playing something like Khaba when your Shimas and Gearings die 2 minutes in and you're expected to contest caps with almost 10km conceal. I recommend that nation balancing be updated from a strictly national basis to a role basis. Using T10 DD as an example, you could put Gearing, Somers, Daring, Shima, Hayate, YY, and Halland in one bucket, Harugumo, Khaba and Kleber in another, and Groz, Z-52, Marceau and Smaland in a third. Does every ship fit into a role perfectly? Of course not, but nation balancing is no longer adequate. Edited February 27, 2021 by awildseaking 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
47 [WOLFG] pallas_2 Members 151 posts 14,034 battles Report post #19 Posted February 27, 2021 Depends on how they die. Every so often you get a wall of random blind fire torps from a pair of Shimas and a couple DDs get dev struck with little warning. Driving a DD into a cap protected by radar cruisers is, on the other hand, criminally stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
47 [WOLFG] pallas_2 Members 151 posts 14,034 battles Report post #20 Posted February 27, 2021 Or a whole team of Khabarovsks and Kleibers. Not a lot of stealth or spotting, but they are fast while being ineffective. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
833 [_GS_] CallingElvis Members 674 posts 13,558 battles Report post #21 Posted February 27, 2021 58 minutes ago, desmo_2 said: Please resist the urge to rush to the forums after a bad game. Hold my beer. And keep your insults to yourself racer. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,243 [O_O] desmo_2 Members 7,579 posts 19,981 battles Report post #22 Posted February 28, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Toxygene said: Hold my beer. And keep your insults to yourself racer. THAT was an "insult"??? I'm sorry, Snowflake! Here's a cookie to ease your fragile sensibilities! Oops. Sorry, no cookie. Now adjust fire and get your [edited] back in the game. Or, go do chores...whichever. Edited February 28, 2021 by desmo_2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
833 [_GS_] CallingElvis Members 674 posts 13,558 battles Report post #23 Posted February 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, desmo_2 said: I'm sorry, Snowflake! Here's a cookie to ease your fragile sensibilities! I can see you sitting in a dark bedroom somewhere, handing out insults all day. You go ahead and have yourself a nice evening. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,243 [O_O] desmo_2 Members 7,579 posts 19,981 battles Report post #24 Posted February 28, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Toxygene said: I can see you sitting in a dark bedroom somewhere, handing out insults all day. You go ahead and have yourself a nice evening. Check my post history. I don't hand out insults. Every once in a while, however, a life-experienced, military vet like myself comes across a patty-cake comment I have a hard time catering to. I find your latest comment ironic, since I also see you sitting in a dark bedroom with no experience to back up your perceptions of the world. Perhaps if you had seen some of it...? Edited February 28, 2021 by desmo_2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,483 [ARS] Helstrem Beta Testers 7,785 posts 8,472 battles Report post #25 Posted February 28, 2021 5 hours ago, Toxygene said: They should all be banned for 30 days as they are ruining the game for 24 players. Simple. 5 hours ago, SKurj said: 20 8. It is entirely possible the 12 on the enemy team quite enjoyed the romp. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
