Republique killed by 3 waves from an F.D Roosevelt 6:30sec game...What the hell?

[Xeonplz]

I have not had the time to play much warships recently. I was interested in trying a new spec on the Republique after watching the YouTuber "Potato Quality". During the short game, I got absolutely destroyed from full HP to 0 by an F.D Roosevelt in under 6min 30seconds....I have never been more thunder [edited] so quickly by a CV in a tier 10 BB...What defense did I have against this? I am a crapplayer and very rusty I obviously, shot poorly and could have turned out sooner used repair better ect but honestly.... What the FK? I have included the short game recording below...  (the video is still processing and will be 1440p shortly, the audio in the clip is from the YouTuber mentioned above I was watching his video as I played)https://youtu.be/JLTv7FH12B8

[Navalpride33]

7 minutes ago, Xeonplz said:

I have not had the time to play much warships recently. I was interested in trying a new spec on the Republique after watching the YouTuber "Potato Quality". During the short game, I got absolutely destroyed from full HP to 0 by an F.D Roosevelt in under 6min 30seconds....I have never been more thunder [edited] so quickly by a CV in a tier 10 BB...What defense did I have against this? I am a crapplayer and very rusty I obviously, shot poorly and could have turned out sooner used repair better ect but honestly.... What the FK? I have included the short game recording below... https://youtu.be/JLTv7FH12B8 (the video is still processing and will be 1440p shortly, the audio in the clip is from the YouTuber mentioned above I was watching his video as I played)

Damage Control ??? You left it in port ?

Battle itself lasted 14min

You lasted 6 min..

• This means, the game went on for 8 min without you...

So where was your Damage control ???

6 Fires for an avg of 10k DMG per fire... Where is my diaper flag...

[Raven114]

Some day's you eat the Bear, and some day's the Bear eats you!!!!! Normal.

[Xeonplz]

I  preemptively used it on the single fire which caused me to burn for about 15sec with the following double fire, but after that, I used it on cooldown while retreating...6 fire plus 69kdmg via rockets and bombs in under 5 min while on my side of the map retreating... The squadrons were even split on some of the drops, how is that remotely fair? The same squadron that split and did 20k to the yammy hit me for 20k and lit two fires all the while taking AA fire.

[PrairiePlayer]

@Navalpride33 I watched the video and you are being a little unfair.  The OP, for the most part, let single fires burn and didn't trigger DC until he had two fires burning.  He didn't fritter his DC away on single fires, but he had a lot of fires.  The killer was 49K damage from bombs.  I will say the OP wandered away from his team by himself and made an inviting target.  Honestly, @Xeonplz, you just can't do that and survive long. 

[Xeonplz]

I can accept I was isolated, the reason I did not run to the other side of the map when I spawned was i was with two other ships and was to provide some cover / AA to the shimmy who also spawned on that side with me. I thought I would provide some AA cover for the shimmy and maybe get some flank shots as he capped, that was a mistake. I have been the shimmy spawning solo on the other side of the map that then gets farmed to death by the CV, I never dreamed I would take so much dmg by that CV so quickly with so few planes shot down. I'm still thunder-struck by the amount of dmg that was done to me so quickly with half squadrons... Clearly, I need to level a CV for the cake life...

[Targeted]

But you did have fun and engagement! I bet even now you are telling friends so that they download the game and come to share in your pleasurable experience. Nothing to see here, move along the balance is real, the fun is inexhaustible and as you have come to the forums it is obvious that the engagement is also substantial. now buy a years worth of premium time and enjoy the game further. Thank you for confirming what our tried and tested spreadsheet tells us.

[Navalpride33]

13 minutes ago, PrairiePlayer said:

 I watched the video and you are being a little unfair.

I am going by the numbers shown...

Not even the must fire daemon ship in the game, manages 10k avg. per fire... Not to mention fires DMG can be healed...

• Not the Smolensk
• Not the Thunderer
  • Though under the right circumstances... It can happen.

I see it as  two issues right off the bat...

• Left the DC party in port...
  • FP is a must...
• Mismanage DC in game...

To me, seeing 10k avg for 6 fires... Blame has to go on the

• CV side for his impeccable timing...
  • Not to mention his ability to pay attention to the smallest detail...
• To the OP...
  • For reasons already stated...

I dont think, 10kavg fires is a daily thing... At least not on a daily match basis......

That is my reasoning/critique Behind the OPs title...

[Xeonplz]

FDR risked nothing how is your conclusion I did something wrong? Any BB in that game could have just a easily been sunk in the same way if the FDR sent planes at them. The only defence is to have spawned with 4 cruisers next to me and not being targeted, CV's broke for reasons stated....

[BrushWolf]

What struck me was the lack of maneuver to reduce damage. You have to be maneuvering well before the planes enter your the range of your AA. You can't make them completely miss all the time just as you can't make a ship shooting at you miss all the time but you made it easy for that player who is actually not very good with the FDR.

[Xeonplz]

Very true i could have wiggled more.

[Navalpride33]

15 minutes ago, Xeonplz said:

FDR risked nothing how is your conclusion I did something wrong? Any BB in that game could have just a easily been sunk in the same way if the FDR sent planes at them.

Its history in play, that is how the BBs became obsolete...

Just follow the recommendations

• FP is a must
• Dont be by yourself
• Manage correctly your DC
• Wiggle, or move your fantail...

Wish you well OP...

[mofton]

I don't really understand the suggestions on 'grouping up'. 

If you spawn on a flank with a Shimakaze and that well known AA fortress Yamato, what are you grouping up with and how much does it help against an FDR? Not much. The friendly Kremlin who'd probably had all his AA shot off in one volley and was heading generally that way might have allowed you to reach a 4 on 1 with the carrier. A third of a team to blunt a carrier seems fair...

Even had OP played better (and there's lots of room for that) this was a very limited win scenario, just draw out the pain, shoot down a few more planes? 

I'd honestly rather get one shot than play 'squirming targets are more fun' simulator like in this game. 

[HMAS_Melbourne]

Biggest problem I have with the fdr is just how tough the planes are. They have to be made out solid plate steel or something even tougher.

It would be nice if the planes were made a lot easier to kill.

Also let Carriers burn just like everyone else.

[Turbotush]

How dare you question the glorious CV player base!  You sir are a racist!  All you had to do was hide at the back of the map and you would have lived, but nooooo!  You decided that in a ship with big guns, you could have fun shooting other ships with big guns, well you where WRONG, The CV is the most purest form of fun in WoWS, anything said disparagingly about the fare, balanced and innocent CV is an affront to the great WG gods.  You will now be told by the CV mafias greatest players what you should have or should not have done, listen to them and their wisdom as they tell you all is well and to "Just dodge".

CV's are the only reason I play but don't pay.

[arch4random]

try not watching a video and playing at the same time ...that could help

[Laser_Beam]

@BrushWolf

I have found you an example of what a rant looks like.

 

PS - You are welcome.

 

[Laser_Beam]

3 hours ago, BrushWolf said:

What struck me was the lack of maneuver to reduce damage. You have to be maneuvering well before the planes enter your the range of your AA. You can't make them completely miss all the time just as you can't make a ship shooting at you miss all the time but you made it easy for that player who is actually not very good with the FDR.

Amazing!!!   In another post.  A player writes one sentence.  You call it a rant.  When an actual rant happens you ignore it.

 

  just amazing.

 

In case you forgot:

 

[BrushWolf]

4 minutes ago, Laser_Beam said:

Amazing!!!   In another post.  A player writes one sentence.  You call it a rant.  When an actual rant happens you ignore it.

 

  just amazing.

 

In case you forgot:

 

I called it a rant because it was and because there was no other way to address the proposal. For this thread I had the ability to critique his play because of the video.

[HallaSnackbar]

FDR's bread and butter is isolated stationary or non maneuvering targets.  Her planes are super tanks so normal aa is not a good deterrent.   The biggest threat to FDR's planes is flak and fighters.  Her planes are slow and clumsy, they can't get away from fighters and are terrible at dodging flak.  Sound like you learned all this the hard way.

[Danyir_Amore]

Maybe instead of whinging in the chat you should've been taking evasive action.

Like you only took evasive action once, the first rocket attack.  You don't even have the excuse of being locked into an angle because you were engaging someone, you were in open water well out of harms way, even giving your broadside to the enemy anyway.  you could've easily mitigated most of the damage, but instead you just sat there and actually watched him set up a perfect bomb run down the length of your ship twice, what exactly were you expecting? 

You also only used the sector reinforcement twice and on neither of the bomb drops that did most of the damage, if you had those last couple of planes probly wouldn't have survived to make the last drop.

You also misused your DCP twice, once on a single fire (which had already half burned anyway so even worse) which looked to be set by the Thunderer when the planes were approaching, then again you used it on two fires while the planes were still there.

Maybe you should play CV's you will learn its a lot harder than you seem to think they are.

[HammerKing1982]

Sell Republique, its a crap. I totally waste my time, sweat, and REAL money on doubloons unlocking this ship. Total disaster. I played like 200 battles with this ship in last season RANKED, painstakingly got qualified to Silver League. 

Then 90% of the teamates are dreaming ended up losing all the time. This Republique itself is VERY frusfrating, its only good for 2 things, anti air and 30km spotting, otherwise u have to evade all the time coz paper thin armour n everyone aims u and kill u first. Main battery is inconsistent, only good from 3-15km.

Worst experience ever, thats why in all game nobody plays Republique, if there are, often in the scores boards they scored lowest or died first. Absolute crap ! Its like they designed the French fleet with Republique to accomodate, not really a tier X ship, armour cant even compared to tier VII  Lyon !

[jags_domain]

On 2/24/2021 at 8:22 PM, Xeonplz said:

I have not had the time to play much warships recently. I was interested in trying a new spec on the Republique after watching the YouTuber "Potato Quality". During the short game, I got absolutely destroyed from full HP to 0 by an F.D Roosevelt in under 6min 30seconds....I have never been more thunder [edited] so quickly by a CV in a tier 10 BB...What defense did I have against this? I am a crapplayer and very rusty I obviously, shot poorly and could have turned out sooner used repair better ect but honestly.... What the FK? I have included the short game recording below...  (the video is still processing and will be 1440p shortly, the audio in the clip is from the YouTuber mentioned above I was watching his video as I played)https://youtu.be/JLTv7FH12B8

I killed a Republic in 2 min in a Vermont.  Is that ok????

[jags_domain]

On 2/27/2021 at 11:22 PM, Danyir_Amore said:

Maybe instead of whinging in the chat you should've been taking evasive action.

Like you only took evasive action once, the first rocket attack.  You don't even have the excuse of being locked into an angle because you were engaging someone, you were in open water well out of harms way, even giving your broadside to the enemy anyway.  you could've easily mitigated most of the damage, but instead you just sat there and actually watched him set up a perfect bomb run down the length of your ship twice, what exactly were you expecting? 

You also only used the sector reinforcement twice and on neither of the bomb drops that did most of the damage, if you had those last couple of planes probly wouldn't have survived to make the last drop.

You also misused your DCP twice, once on a single fire (which had already half burned anyway so even worse) which looked to be set by the Thunderer when the planes were approaching, then again you used it on two fires while the planes were still there.

Maybe you should play CV's you will learn its a lot harder than you seem to think they are.