3 [CTU] NW_Gr1p_N_R1p Members 6 posts 5,701 battles Report post #1 Posted February 21 Roma was my first premium and I have over 500 games in her. Basically learned to play the game in her.. with the launch of the RM BB line and after playing the Vittorio Veneto just curious what the point of the Roma is now? VV has the smoke, SAP, and unless I’m mistaken the same AP which was kind of the “gimmick” of the Roma with extreme pen. I guess I’m hoping someone can tell me something I’m missing. cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,150 [DRFTR] SKurj Beta Testers 3,919 posts Report post #2 Posted February 21 i think roma has been buffed significantly with deadeye.. or at least thats what some of the streamers have been going on about... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,196 [KWF] warheart1992 Members 5,787 posts 7,007 battles Report post #3 Posted February 21 Overall stealthier, faster reload, and it sounds weird saying this about Roma, but more accurate. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,191 [HINON] RipNuN2 Members 14,006 posts Report post #4 Posted February 21 31 minutes ago, NW_Gr1p_N_R1p said: Roma was my first premium and I have over 500 games in her. Basically learned to play the game in her.. with the launch of the RM BB line and after playing the Vittorio Veneto just curious what the point of the Roma is now? VV has the smoke, SAP, and unless I’m mistaken the same AP which was kind of the “gimmick” of the Roma with extreme pen. I guess I’m hoping someone can tell me something I’m missing. cheers Better accuracy, HE to actually damage DDs, etc. etc. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,531 Admiral_Thrawn_1 Members 12,597 posts 14,320 battles Report post #5 Posted February 21 If you use the special captain Luigi Sansonetti you can find some of the potential special bonuses to be rather nice on the Roma such as extended gun range for example. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12,238 [WOLF3] HazeGrayUnderway [WOLF3] Members 29,853 posts 25,782 battles Report post #6 Posted February 21 (edited) Roma's actually more accurate than her ITA BB Line cousins. Not only that, she even reloads quicker and is stealthier. If you don't believe me, hit up Fitting Tool link in my signature and look it up yourself. Edited February 21 by HazeGrayUnderway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12,238 [WOLF3] HazeGrayUnderway [WOLF3] Members 29,853 posts 25,782 battles Report post #7 Posted February 21 24 minutes ago, RipNuN2 said: Better accuracy, HE to actually damage DDs, etc. etc. This, 100%. I know Roma's HE sucks but she will do much better against DDs than her SAP cousins ever will. Roma HE shell: 5100 dmg x 33% Penetration damage = 1683 damage before Damage Saturation Her tech tree sister, Vittorio Veneto: 12,500 SAP dmage x 10% cap against DDs = 1250 damage before Damage Saturation In addition, Roma's HE will have a blast radius to cause module damage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12,238 [WOLF3] HazeGrayUnderway [WOLF3] Members 29,853 posts 25,782 battles Report post #8 Posted February 21 (edited) I can't believe I'm saying that Roma is actually more consistent a Battleship. Roma & Vittorio Veneto Same 18.12km gun range Same max horizontal dispersion of 244m Same max vertical dispersion of 147m Roma has better 1.8 Sigma vs V.Veneto's 1.6 Roma reloads better at 30 seconds vs V.Veneto's 33 Roma can actually do better against DDs than V.Veneto due to her lower damage HE shells compared to 10% damage capped V.Veneto SAP shells Edited February 21 by HazeGrayUnderway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,196 [KWF] warheart1992 Members 5,787 posts 7,007 battles Report post #9 Posted February 21 13 minutes ago, HazeGrayUnderway said: I can't believe I'm saying that Roma is actually more consistent a Battleship. Roma & Vittorio Veneto Same 18.12km gun range Same max horizontal dispersion of 244m Same max vertical dispersion of 147m Roma has better 1.8 Sigma vs V.Veneto's 1.6 Roma reloads better at 30 seconds vs V.Veneto's 33 Roma can actually do better against DDs than V.Veneto due to her lower damage HE shells compared to 10% damage capped V.Veneto SAP shells Don't forget the top tier concealment of Roma. It's what binds it all together. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12,238 [WOLF3] HazeGrayUnderway [WOLF3] Members 29,853 posts 25,782 battles Report post #10 Posted February 21 23 minutes ago, warheart1992 said: Don't forget the top tier concealment of Roma. It's what binds it all together. Yes, Roma with Stealth Build is 11.74km. A very good candidate for Dead Eye. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
583 [NMKJT] MnemonScarlet Members 3,058 posts 8,287 battles Report post #11 Posted February 21 (edited) 6 hours ago, HazeGrayUnderway said: I can't believe I'm saying that Roma is actually more consistent a Battleship. Roma's now the queen of the line, unless MP ends up better than her. At least unless you enjoy playing T5 all the time and have a GC. I feel like WG is trolling all the Roma haters who said anything would be better and pinned their hopes on SAP/fuel smoke BBs remaining overtuned AF. Edited February 22 by MnemonScarlet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,642 [RLGN] Estimated_Prophet Members 15,645 posts 27,371 battles Report post #12 Posted February 21 2 hours ago, warheart1992 said: Overall stealthier, faster reload, and it sounds weird saying this about Roma, but more accurate. 2 hours ago, RipNuN2 said: Better accuracy, HE to actually damage DDs, etc. etc. Ninja’d. The two above have the right of it. From what I’ve read so far, keep it because real HE to use against DDs, instead of the laughable damage of SAP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3 [CTU] NW_Gr1p_N_R1p Members 6 posts 5,701 battles Report post #13 Posted February 21 Appreciate the responses. Good lord but it seems Roma has become the sniper of the RM 😂 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,092 [SIM] SkaerKrow Members 5,787 posts 9,263 battles Report post #14 Posted February 21 (edited) 3 minutes ago, NW_Gr1p_N_R1p said: Appreciate the responses. Good lord but it seems Roma has become the sniper of the RM 😂 Weirdly enough, that’s exactly what she is at this point. She might not have the silly gimmicks of the RM BB line, but ironically, she’s no worse off for that fact. Edited February 21 by SkaerKrow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,875 [SGSS] jags_domain Members 5,747 posts Report post #15 Posted February 22 2 hours ago, HazeGrayUnderway said: Yes, Roma with Stealth Build is 11.74km. A very good candidate for Dead Eye. Only ship I have deadeye on. My other BB are 20k firing range so its not worth it. I still like sec builds 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,489 [WKY04] Pugilistic Members 3,879 posts 24,875 battles Report post #16 Posted February 22 (edited) 4 hours ago, NW_Gr1p_N_R1p said: Appreciate the responses. Good lord but it seems Roma has become the sniper of the RM 😂 True, and pretty funny. Deadeye turned her from just another face in the crowd to Gulia Farnese. Edited February 22 by Pugilistic 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,521 [WOLFC] DocWalker Members 3,200 posts Report post #17 Posted February 22 1 hour ago, Pugilistic said: ... from just another face in the crowd to Julia Farnese. Thanks, I really enjoy history and this is one name I hadn't come across before. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giulia_Farnese Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,174 Moggytwo Members 540 posts 20 battles Report post #18 Posted February 22 5 hours ago, HazeGrayUnderway said: Roma HE shell: 5100 dmg x 33% Penetration damage = 1683 damage before Damage Saturation Her tech tree sister, Vittorio Veneto: 12,500 SAP dmage x 10% cap against DDs = 1250 damage before Damage Saturation True, but after local saturation Roma's HE will be doing 842 damage per shell, and VV's SAP will still be doing 1250 damage per shell. After total saturation Roma's HE will be doing 510 damage per shell, while VV's SAP will still be doing 1250 damage per shell. 5 hours ago, HazeGrayUnderway said: In addition, Roma's HE will have a blast radius to cause module damage. Absolutely right, plus you'll be starting fires as well. These are the main benefits of firing HE at DD's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
231 [HKC] Viva_Palestine Members 755 posts Report post #19 Posted February 22 A Roma was kicking my Lepanto's [edited]one v one today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12,238 [WOLF3] HazeGrayUnderway [WOLF3] Members 29,853 posts 25,782 battles Report post #20 Posted February 22 (edited) 7 hours ago, MnemonScarlet said: Roma's now the queen of the line, unless MP ends up better than her. At least unless you enjoy playing T5 all the time and have a GC. I feel like WG is trolling all the Roma haters who said anything would be better and pinned their hopes on SAP/fuel smoke BBs remaining overtuned AF. My guess is the Tier X will shine, as intended. Every Ship Line, every Line Split that has taken place after the Russian Battleship Line came out has followed the pattern where only the Tier X, possibly Tier IX also, were the only good ships. RU BB Line was the last ship line with plenty of good ships sprinkled throughout the tiers. Every Line since then hasn't been like that. 6 hours ago, NW_Gr1p_N_R1p said: Appreciate the responses. Good lord but it seems Roma has become the sniper of the RM 😂 Roma came out in 2018. Her reputation as a poor gunner was immediately apparent. If someone from the future came back to tell us then that there would be a Battleship Line more inaccurate than Roma, German & French Battleships, we would have told him to f--k off with such clearly blatant lies. "If you're going to lie, at least try and make it believable!" Edited February 22 by HazeGrayUnderway 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
