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HazeGrayUnderway

Rework German BBs in Operation Narai

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I have never had a decent game in a BB where my Secondaries have nearly equaled the output of my Main Battery until today.  German BB Secondaries in Tier VII have long range now and in Narai, they stay very busy.  I was plinking secondary hits on the Iron Duke at the early part of the Op.  When Scharnhorst got to the bay in the end, the Secondaries were basically firing nonstop.  I was using my Lutjens captain with IFHE Secondaries, etc.  Secondaries range is 9.1km, with signal flag, 9.5km.

The Narai run below was horribly run at 2 stars, but you can see the Secondary results speak for themselves.

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Hammering Iron Duke with Secondaries.

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You can see my Secondaries ring on the minimap, it basically covers almost all the bay of the last part of Narai.  In this last phase my Secondaries were literally firing nonstop.

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I'd wager Gneisenau's Secondaries would perform the same.  My build below.

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I want to add, that IFHE for the purpose of Secondaries on German BBs at Narai is overkill.  Scharnhorst 105mm secondaries have 26mm HE Pen by default and Gneisenau has crazy 32mm for her 128mm secondaries.  Those values are fine for Narai's targets.  I had IFHE because I use that Lutjens captain on GK and a host of other Premium BBs like Odin, Pommern, etc.

 

IFHE let my German 128mm Secondaries have 40mm HE Pen, which is sufficient in carving up the many High Tier USN BBs I see in Co-Op that have 38mm armor.  For Narai, again, it's Overkill.

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Thank you Haze, this helps me understand quite easily.  I have Lutjens on Bismarck and haven't picked skills for him. I plan on using him on all my German premium ships so this is valuable stuff. 

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I have my ger Capt with full secondaries, giving up ce and deadeye for it (14pt'er).. works lovely in ops.

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16 hours ago, HazeGrayUnderway said:

I want to add, that IFHE for the purpose of Secondaries on German BBs at Narai is overkill.  Scharnhorst 105mm secondaries have 26mm HE Pen by default and Gneisenau has crazy 32mm for her 128mm secondaries.  Those values are fine for Narai's targets.  I had IFHE because I use that Lutjens captain on GK and a host of other Premium BBs like Odin, Pommern, etc.

 

IFHE let my German 128mm Secondaries have 40mm HE Pen, which is sufficient in carving up the many High Tier USN BBs I see in Co-Op that have 38mm armor.  For Narai, again, it's Overkill.

Getting the that much pen (without IFHE) at mid tier is devastating.

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12 hours ago, DrHolmes52 said:

Getting the that much pen (without IFHE) at mid tier is devastating.

Yes.  I had cycled some other Skill Rebork BBs through Narai with Secondary Specs.  Sure everybody got a range boost to the Secondary Battery, but they don't touch the performance of Ze Germans' Secondaries.

All of them save the FR BBs don't have the 9km range of the Germans.

Almost all of them don't have the ROF of Ze German Secondaries.

All of them don't have the HE Pen Bonus of Ze German Secondaries.

 

Lyon has the same range as the Germans but she has 5 seconds reload for her secondaries and only 22mm HE Pen.

Sinop & Poltava have 8.1km range, inferior to the Germans.  The reload is 5 seconds which is still a lot slower than the Germans, and 22mm HE Pen.

I took California through also.  8.1km range and an even slower reload of 6 seconds, 5.4 if you got CQE trait.  You also got 21mm HE Pen.

 

I'm not saying these other BBs' secondaries are useless in Narai.  Far from it, they'll get you some extra damage.  It's just they don't perform like the German BBs' secondaries.  For Scharnhorst and Gneisenau, it's automatic damage racking up.

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Gneisenau with a similar build as my Scharnhorst.  Different captain, not my GK Lutjens one since Gneisenau is a Tech Tree Ship.  German BB Secondaries are fantastic for Narai.

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Build below.

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1586 Secondary shells fired for 78.5k direct shell damage.

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3 hours ago, HazeGrayUnderway said:

Gneisenau with a similar build as my Scharnhorst.  Different captain, not my GK Lutjens one since Gneisenau is a Tech Tree Ship.  German BB Secondaries are fantastic for Narai.

1586 Secondary shells fired for 78.5k direct shell damage.

Balans at its finest......

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