999 [X-PN] YouSatInGum Members 1,578 posts 12,155 battles Report post #1 Posted February 13 (edited) Been meaning to do this for a while and I'm going to start basic at first, but I do intend to update this every week or two. Whoever maintains the maplesyrup site....Thank you, your work makes things like this possible. So here's some top 10's for the last week..... Most played ships : Highest damage: Highest damage by class: **Added one to BB since Alabama ST is a really old unavailable ship with few players And the last stat I will call "Flint Watch." WG said they would keep an eye on it.... I think I will help them out in this endeavor... I might make this it's own thread later....but I'll put Flint stats here for now. Edited February 13 by YouSatInGum 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,029 [WOLF9] iDuckman Wiki Lead 15,755 posts 4,771 battles Report post #2 Posted February 13 (edited) Flint is very much due a buff, based on WR and damage falling off sharply. However, I'd have to compare to the performance of Atlanta and similar to see whether those weren't OP (over-performing) to begin with. Thunderer isn't out of line with the big boys. That's good to see. No Des Moines in the top 10 CAs? What heresy is this !? Edited February 13 by iDuckman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
876 OuijaApologist Members 574 posts Report post #3 Posted February 13 (edited) 10 minutes ago, iDuckman said: Flint is very much due a buff, based on WR and damage falling off sharply. However, I'd have to compare to the performance of Atlanta and similar to see whether those weren't OP (over-performing) to begin with. 33.5k average damage is possibly OP? I guess you gotta set the bar somewhere... Edited February 13 by OuijaApologist 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,324 [SALVO] ArIskandir Members 6,944 posts 5,502 battles Report post #4 Posted February 13 (edited) Lol at Thunderer vs Shima spam... 12 minutes ago, iDuckman said: Flint is very much due a buff, based on WR and damage falling off sharply. However, I'd have to compare to the performance of Atlanta and similar to see whether those weren't OP (over-performing) to begin with. As I read those numbers, the fall in performance goes tied with the increase in popularity, as expected when more average players have access to a somewhat restricted ship. Not meaning she doesn't need some love, but needs to be factored in regarding the fall in performance. The rework impact is notorious tho. Edited February 13 by ArIskandir Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,188 [KWF] warheart1992 Members 5,771 posts 7,007 battles Report post #5 Posted February 13 (edited) The saddest part is in the "most played" category. 7 BBs, 2 DDs that are torp specialists, only one CA and even that is not a traditional CA, and a premium at that. So basically hard counters running around, all cruisers but one pummeled to submission. Shows alot about the degeneration of higher tiers. Edited February 13 by warheart1992 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,521 [WOLFC] DocWalker Members 3,200 posts Report post #6 Posted February 13 (edited) Thanks ... this will be interesting to follow. +1 edit: I do play 6 out of 10 of the top 10 ... but only 3 (all Premiums) in the last week. Haven't touched my Flint since the update. Edited February 13 by DocWalker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
381 [KENT] mcgibe Members 409 posts 7,044 battles Report post #7 Posted February 13 41 minutes ago, iDuckman said: Flint is very much due a buff, based on WR and damage falling off sharply. However, I'd have to compare to the performance of Atlanta and similar to see whether those weren't OP (over-performing) to begin with. Thunderer isn't out of line with the big boys. That's good to see. No Des Moines in the top 10 CAs? What heresy is this !? Flint had a lot taken away after the ifhe rework, and even more after the commander rework. I understand that it was in a very strong state beforehand, but it probably needs a small buff here and there. Especially after it's AA was butchered. In regards to thunderer, that ship needs a pretty big nerf (although they wont do that since it's going to be another exclusive premium). Plus when it has so many players using it as opposed to burger or shiki, it's bound to average out. And as for DM, while it sucks that people aren't playing her, it's all around perception after the rework. Sure deadeye is very strong and a whole lot of people are running BB after hearing about it, but that doesn't change DM's playstyle. The problem is perception. That's why we see so many BBs and the most played cruisers being long range kiters. It sucks, but it's what the meta and playerbase have decreed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
717 [--O--] Mustangrde1 Members 994 posts Report post #8 Posted February 13 Nice post +1 What I see is a lot of fire starters in the top BB and CA and really only the CA that can mitigate best fires (long range kiting play with some fire prevention builds(esk). Shocked not to see the biggest Bias ship IMO not in there (Petrobiask) Also DD's looking worse and worse as weeks go on in stats. They need a buff to torps damage to some and detection of torps on others (flame away) but the dd for a average player is getting unplayable with CV and Radar. Maybe this is wargames plan, drive them away and then when subs come out they will flock back in droves, who knows. Just saying they should be up there in damage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,029 [WOLF9] iDuckman Wiki Lead 15,755 posts 4,771 battles Report post #9 Posted February 13 30 minutes ago, Mustangrde1 said: I absolutely love your avatar. Not many women know how to gift a man ... in an nontraditional way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
283 [ARGSY] handybilly Members 679 posts 10,851 battles Report post #10 Posted February 13 No I think the rework helped DDs a lot. That might change as playstyle adjust but for now torp DDs are looking pretty strong. BBs are further away and radar CAs are fewer in numbers and staying further from the caps. I for one am mostly playing dds again and having a lot of fun. Damage is not what counts with DDs (although a bonus) you get points by capping, spotting, defending and satisfaction when your team wins because of your play. That works just fine for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
717 [--O--] Mustangrde1 Members 994 posts Report post #11 Posted February 13 1 minute ago, iDuckman said: I absolutely love your avatar. Not many women know how to gift a man ... in an nontraditional way. Problem is she collects guns more than shoes.... Went to get a new pistol a couple years ago FOR ME... I let her feel it and she said it was to wide for her grip, guy at counter said try this one on it has the smaller grips, she smiled and said Send it and his in to the custom shop, needs a full polish, trigger job, put the night sights on it and add a crimson trace.... While filling out paperwork (my bad forgot my ccp) she noticed the serial numbers were sequential and said we were meant to buy both. Then proceeded to buy a new scope and pmags for her LAR-308. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,029 [WOLF9] iDuckman Wiki Lead 15,755 posts 4,771 battles Report post #12 Posted February 13 2 minutes ago, Mustangrde1 said: is she collects guns more than shoes Hey, if it wasn't guns it would be something else. Though I'm not sure you're getting off any better than if it were diamonds. Lucky man. At least guns are useful. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
807 [JMMAF] megahugenoob Members 686 posts 9,037 battles Report post #13 Posted February 13 (edited) 1 hour ago, YouSatInGum said: Been meaning to do this for a while and I'm going to start basic at first, but I do intend to update this every week or two. Whoever maintains the maplesyrup site....Thank you, your work makes things like this possible. So here's some top 10's for the last week..... Most played ships : Highest damage: Highest damage by class: **Added one to BB since Alabama ST is a really old unavailable ship with few players And the last stat I will call "Flint Watch." WG said they would keep an eye on it.... I think I will help them out in this endeavor... I might make this it's own thread later....but I'll put Flint stats here for now. Great post. Look at the average damage between the FDR and the #2 Carrier. Broken much? Its like 20k higher. So nice to see all the brawling ships that push doing so well..... O Wait.... Oh yeah, Premium ships dominate tech tier ships. Edited February 13 by megahugenoob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
717 [--O--] Mustangrde1 Members 994 posts Report post #14 Posted February 13 19 minutes ago, handybilly said: No I think the rework helped DDs a lot. That might change as playstyle adjust but for now torp DDs are looking pretty strong. BBs are further away and radar CAs are fewer in numbers and staying further from the caps. I for one am mostly playing dds again and having a lot of fun. Damage is not what counts with DDs (although a bonus) you get points by capping, spotting, defending and satisfaction when your team wins because of your play. That works just fine for me. For the more experience players I agree. for the average player its made it worse.... Remember wargaming made AP less deadly for DD's from a BB, well now they made this Long Range meta a Long Range fire meta, which now means that dd gets deleted with HE from a BB... Also by having so many so far back I am seeing cruisers playing kiting style or further back (groupings are closer) meaning DD with the exception of Asa are being detected before they can get close to the BB's (as shown in the stats by the dds in play) Dont take it wrong Im a dd main and love it, but I am far from Novice or Average and I can see the balance problem Komrade, game needs all classes and honestly all ships balanced enough at least to be played at their tier range. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
717 [--O--] Mustangrde1 Members 994 posts Report post #15 Posted February 13 17 minutes ago, iDuckman said: Hey, if it wasn't guns it would be something else. Though I'm not sure you're getting off any better than if it were diamonds. Lucky man. At least guns are useful. They are and she puts many men to shame when Waterfowl or Pheasant Hunting, Big game she gets board with says she has more fun at the range but paper doesnt taste as good lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
999 [X-PN] YouSatInGum Members 1,578 posts 12,155 battles Report post #16 Posted March 12 A little more gap in posts than I intended but a broken arm and associated titanium addition surgery can do that... Anyway, here's the update based on the week of 3/7/21. A lot of usual suspects on ships, but the major stat change is the overall number of games played. The aggregate number of games for 2/13 week was . For this week, 3/7, it is . That's a big drop. I'll follow that more closely in the future. Anyway, here's the other stuff... ...and of course Flint Watch... The average damage seems to bottomed out a bit, landing in the bottom half of Tier 7 cruisers, but two depressing stats I would point to is survivability and avg games played. The survival numbers are more typical of a mid tier dd, so as predicted, smoke doesn't necessarily help the ship live longer. Also, players that do play the Flint, are playing it about half as much. Maybe some of that is expected as Flint became more obtainable, but it could also mean that players are not enjoying playing it as much as they used to. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,426 WarStore Banned 1,424 posts 6,083 battles Report post #17 Posted March 12 7 minutes ago, YouSatInGum said: A little more gap in posts than I intended but a broken arm and associated titanium addition surgery can do that... Damn. That looks serious. I wish you a quick recovery. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
88 [HAI] Qilang Members 206 posts Report post #18 Posted March 12 Azuma is No.3? wth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,426 WarStore Banned 1,424 posts 6,083 battles Report post #19 Posted March 12 What can explain this huge drop in number of battles? Is it the current post rework meta alone? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
549 [CAAT] SaiIor_Moon Members 1,022 posts 4,625 battles Report post #20 Posted March 12 56 minutes ago, YouSatInGum said: A little more gap in posts than I intended but a broken arm and associated titanium addition surgery can do that... Anyway, here's the update based on the week of 3/7/21. A lot of usual suspects on ships, but the major stat change is the overall number of games played. The aggregate number of games for 2/13 week was . For this week, 3/7, it is . That's a big drop. I'll follow that more closely in the future. Anyway, here's the other stuff... ...and of course Flint Watch... The average damage seems to bottomed out a bit, landing in the bottom half of Tier 7 cruisers, but two depressing stats I would point to is survivability and avg games played. The survival numbers are more typical of a mid tier dd, so as predicted, smoke doesn't necessarily help the ship live longer. Also, players that do play the Flint, are playing it about half as much. Maybe some of that is expected as Flint became more obtainable, but it could also mean that players are not enjoying playing it as much as they used to. Thank you so much for all this important info! Here's wishing you a super-speedy recovery! ~-~º(^_~;)ºv~-~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7 [LOWF] Taiona Members 13 posts 9,447 battles Report post #21 Posted March 12 If you are looking for balance in a WW2 naval combat game, where the developers have simply made up ships to live out their own national fantasy, you might be looking in the wrong place. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
549 [CAAT] SaiIor_Moon Members 1,022 posts 4,625 battles Report post #22 Posted March 12 22 minutes ago, WarStore said: What can explain this huge drop in number of battles? Is it the current post rework meta alone? It definitely has to do with the Skills Rework, that much I'm fairly certain of. Even I haven't played as much as I used to, since the absolute fall of secondaries accuracy... That said, I'm still looking forward to seeing what changes Wargaming makes to Dead Eye. I just hope that Wargaming will take the opportunity and address other skills that need fixing/buffing, like Grease the Gears, and ISBA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,029 [WOLF9] iDuckman Wiki Lead 15,755 posts 4,771 battles Report post #23 Posted March 12 bump Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
