5,777 [CNO] Soshi_Sone Members 7,360 posts 22,601 battles Report post #1 Posted February 12, 2021 ...with Deadeye...it's BETTER!!!! 5 4 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,861 [WDS] clammboy [WDS] Members 5,016 posts 14,471 battles Report post #2 Posted February 12, 2021 Ha Ha I get a kick out of your posts keep up the good fight . +1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,434 [TOOF] WarStore Banned 1,424 posts 11,497 battles Report post #3 Posted February 12, 2021 What exactly am I seeing here? Some context, please Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
989 [5D] megahugenoob Members 863 posts 10,612 battles Report post #4 Posted February 12, 2021 156 secondary hits is not impressive. Brawling is broken. Secondaries accuracy is horrid. Data does not support it. Brawling BB's overall damage has tanked since the commander patch. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,009 [PVE] Sovereigndawg Members 11,820 posts 20,850 battles Report post #5 Posted February 12, 2021 38 minutes ago, megahugenoob said: 156 secondary hits is not impressive. Not saying that brawling is broken or fixed, but you still have to add a 10% discount on main battery reload into the equation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,777 [CNO] Soshi_Sone Members 7,360 posts 22,601 battles Report post #6 Posted February 12, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, WarStore said: What exactly am I seeing here? Some context, please None of the Red BBs wished to brawl even though they had brawlers in play. Instead, they played a perimeter game, ostensibly to maintain their Deadeye advantage. I stuck my nose in the inner ring (Epicenter) snuggled up to a some flank protection, and spent most of the game in a tank position in that forward brawler position. The context is my brawling strategy worked BETTER because there was no red willing to challenge my forward position by matching or overwhelming my position. Without Deadeye they would have been more inclined to do so. With it...they ceded cap position to green...and were willing to rely on Deadeye attrition...which didn't pan out. Edited February 12, 2021 by Soshi_Sone 1 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,434 [TOOF] WarStore Banned 1,424 posts 11,497 battles Report post #7 Posted February 12, 2021 So, there wasn't any actual brawling. Just a deadeye contest in which you took a more forward position while the enemy retreated? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,777 [CNO] Soshi_Sone Members 7,360 posts 22,601 battles Report post #8 Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, WarStore said: So, there wasn't any actual brawling. Just a deadeye contest in which you took a more forward position while the enemy retreated? Brawling isn't about FORCING brawling action...chasing the enemy to make it happen. Brawling is about going in ready and willing to go mano mano close in to defeat the enemy brawler and establish a strong position. If the enemy doesn't want to brawl....the "brawling' strategy is to establish that strong position uncontested. One of the big failings of some brawlers is to keep pushing just to force the brawl...and that is a losing strategy. If the enemy cedes the cap early, that's an early win...don't throw it away just to brawl. Playing it YOUR way...not the enemy's way. Establish the high ground....win the attrition/points battle...wait for the right moment. Then when the moment is right, push in to force the win...brawl style if necessary. 2 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
915 [--V--] SeaborneSumo Members 1,602 posts 14,841 battles Report post #9 Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Soshi_Sone said: Brawling isn't about FORCING brawling action...chasing the enemy to make it happen. Brawling is about going in ready and willing to go mano mano close in to defeat the enemy brawler and establish a strong position. If the enemy doesn't want to brawl....the "brawling' strategy is to establish that strong position uncontested. One of the big failings of some brawlers is to keep pushing just to force the brawl...and that is a losing strategy. If the enemy cedes the cap early, that's an early win...don't throw it away just to brawl. Playing it YOUR way...not the enemy's way. Establish the high ground....win the attrition/points battle...wait for the right moment. Then when the moment is right, push in to force the win...brawl style if necessary. So no actual brawling, just positioning. Got it. No actual 'good' brawling ability or performance, just positioning. Post title is incorrect. This isn't about brawling or the ability to brawl. Its about positioning. 3 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,092 [GOB] Col_Nasty Members 3,834 posts Report post #10 Posted February 12, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Soshi_Sone said: Brawling isn't about FORCING brawling action...chasing the enemy to make it happen. Brawling is about going in ready and willing to go mano mano close in to defeat the enemy brawler and establish a strong position. If the enemy doesn't want to brawl....the "brawling' strategy is to establish that strong position uncontested. One of the big failings of some brawlers is to keep pushing just to force the brawl...and that is a losing strategy. If the enemy cedes the cap early, that's an early win...don't throw it away just to brawl. Playing it YOUR way...not the enemy's way. Establish the high ground....win the attrition/points battle...wait for the right moment. Then when the moment is right, push in to force the win...brawl style if necessary. I posted a game like yours yesterday 4 kills and all in my Mass. What REALLY freaked me out was a that I had a German BB with torps RUNNING from me instead of brawling. He had much more HP than I did as well. ( Killed him too ) Go figure.. Edited February 12, 2021 by Col_Nasty Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,434 [TOOF] WarStore Banned 1,424 posts 11,497 battles Report post #11 Posted February 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Soshi_Sone said: Brawling isn't about FORCING brawling action...chasing the enemy to make it happen. Brawling is about going in ready and willing to go mano mano close in to defeat the enemy brawler and establish a strong position. If the enemy doesn't want to brawl....the "brawling' strategy is to establish that strong position uncontested. One of the big failings of some brawlers is to keep pushing just to force the brawl...and that is a losing strategy. If the enemy cedes the cap early, that's an early win...don't throw it away just to brawl. Playing it YOUR way...not the enemy's way. Establish the high ground....win the attrition/points battle...wait for the right moment. Then when the moment is right, push in to force the win...brawl style if necessary. In other words, a sniping contest, but from a favorable position. Gotcha. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,424 [CAAT] SaiIor_Moon Members 4,416 posts 6,722 battles Report post #12 Posted February 12, 2021 15 hours ago, Soshi_Sone said: ...with Deadeye...it's BETTER!!!! You just looooove trolling the brawlers, don't ya? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,612 [-K-] Edgecase [-K-] Members 6,119 posts 25,675 battles Report post #13 Posted February 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Soshi_Sone said: Establish the high ground Until you pull Ocean. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
600 [-REK-] HooplaJones Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 794 posts Report post #14 Posted February 12, 2021 16 hours ago, Soshi_Sone said: ...with Deadeye...it's BETTER!!!! Shouldn't that pic be put on someone's refrigerator? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,777 [CNO] Soshi_Sone Members 7,360 posts 22,601 battles Report post #15 Posted February 13, 2021 On 2/12/2021 at 11:57 AM, Edgecase said: Until you pull Ocean. Did someone say Ocean? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
781 [F4E-2] murder_0ne Members 511 posts 8,729 battles Report post #16 Posted February 13, 2021 If anyone wants to see *actual* brawling, check my thread here: Replay is included. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,612 [-K-] Edgecase [-K-] Members 6,119 posts 25,675 battles Report post #17 Posted February 13, 2021 48 minutes ago, Soshi_Sone said: Did someone say Ocean? The rare and coveted Ocean sighting! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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