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Leone looks AWFUL. What is this ships role supposed to be?

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Guns are useless for knife fighting.  6.5 concealment is awful for a torpedo boat.  34 knot top speed is slow.  What is this ship supposed to be?  Why would I want to play this ship over any other tier 6 DD?

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its meant to be a water bound orbital strike system, as its shells seem to float in the air even longer than the US DD's 5" shells

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51kt torpedoes seem pretty suspect as well. At least they reload quick and have decent range

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5 minutes ago, CaptainKaitoGhost said:

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Guns are useless for knife fighting.  6.5 concealment is awful for a torpedo boat.  34 knot top speed is slow.  What is this ship supposed to be?  Why would I want to play this ship over any other tier 6 DD?

Maybe CV target practice?

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Just now, Maksimus54 said:

51kt torpedoes seem pretty suspect as well. At least they reload quick and have decent range

Looks to be the same torps as the mid tier cruisers.

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9 minutes ago, CaptainKaitoGhost said:

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Guns are useless for knife fighting.  6.5 concealment is awful for a torpedo boat.  34 knot top speed is slow.  What is this ship supposed to be?  Why would I want to play this ship over any other tier 6 DD?

Spamming the Italian long range meme torps/sea mines could be potentially very interesting, but 2x2 launchers really? That's worse than the cruisers, make it 2x3 and there's some hope for her.

Also, no SAP? What's the point then?

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1 minute ago, ArIskandir said:

Spamming the Italian long range meme torps/sea mines could be potentially very interesting, but 2x2 launchers really? That's worse than the cruisers, make it 2x3 and there's some hope for her.

Also, no SAP? What's the point then?

Maybe give it 5M dispersion with a 3.0 sigma?

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Leone looks AWFUL. What is this ships role supposed to be?

To show what two years of powercreep and development hell look like

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With those stats it looks like its going to be a free ship they will give away after some long drawn out grind. 

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7 minutes ago, Maksimus54 said:

51kt torpedoes seem pretty suspect as well. At least they reload quick and have decent range

with only 4 per volley and only doing 13k a pop, meaning an alpha strike of 52k. Adding in torpedo belts, you cannot kill any full health BB within your tier range in one strike.

The only purpose of this ship is to be a reward for 10.2's directives, and then you'll never play it until the next snowflake event

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I think people forget just how bad Mid Tier DDs are in general.  She's a Tier VI.  Compare Leone to Farragut and things start looking alright.

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5 minutes ago, JBR40 said:

With those stats it looks like its going to be a free ship they will give away after some long drawn out grind. 

And we have a winner.

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10 minutes ago, JBR40 said:

With those stats it looks like its going to be a free ship they will give away after some long drawn out grind. 

I wouldn't put it past them to make her for coal. IIRC that would give every nation at least one premium ship, however good or bad, which could be obtained for free.

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8 minutes ago, HazeGrayUnderway said:

I think people forget just how bad Mid Tier DDs are in general.  She's a Tier VI.  Compare Leone to Farragut and things start looking alright.

Farragut has abnormally high concealment, most t6 DD are around 6.1-6.3.

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18 minutes ago, warheart1992 said:

To show what two years of powercreep and development hell look like

Leone has never looked good. Not two years ago, not now. Development hell absolutely, but not power creep. 

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13 minutes ago, HazeGrayUnderway said:

I think people forget just how bad Mid Tier DDs are in general.  She's a Tier VI.  Compare Leone to Farragut and things start looking alright.

Farragut at least has the firepower to outgun most DDs in her tier.

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17 minutes ago, JBR40 said:

With those stats it looks like its going to be a free ship they will give away after some long drawn out grind. 

Special bonus: grind an extra 20%, and WG will keep the ship.

Don’t complete the grind? You get two!

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22 minutes ago, HazeGrayUnderway said:

Compare Leone to Farragut and things start looking alright.

the only thing those 2 really share is that theyre both DDs

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8 minutes ago, CaptainKaitoGhost said:

Farragut at least has the firepower to outgun most DDs in her tier.

Farragut also has terrible concealment making Leone look like a Pasta Ninja.  Farragut also has absolutely trash torpedo range.  5.49km fish stock, 6.39km upgraded.

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22 minutes ago, warheart1992 said:

To show what two years of powercreep and development hell look like

Meh.  It looked like crap a couple years back when the CCs released vids on the Leone.  And the CCs seemed to hate her too.

It's beyond me why WG didn't do anything to  fix the Leone to make her bearable.  Like improving her torp speed.  And her gun reload.  And perhaps flatten her floaty shells (if they haven't already).

14 minutes ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

I wouldn't put it past them to make her for coal. IIRC that would give every nation at least one premium ship, however good or bad, which could be obtained for free.

Cthulhu, unless they've improved the Leone's hidden stats, I don't see why anyone would willingly spend any resource to get her.  There doesn't seem to be anything about her that makes one want to get her other than perhaps as a collectable.

 

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Just now, Crucis said:

Cthulhu, unless they've improved the Leone's hidden stats, I don't see why anyone would willingly spend any resource to get her. 

The last time I saw a tester driving one in battle on the live server, it came top of the team in a T8 battle. So I'm prepared to give it the benefit of the doubt until it's actually released.

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4 minutes ago, sapient007 said:

She is supposed to be a reward ship. 

That said all you need to know. 

There are other reward ships that are considerably better and more playable.  The Aigle,  Cossack, and Benham come to mind.  Even some weaker reward ships are considerably more playable looking than the Leone.

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Just now, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

The last time I saw a tester driving one in battle on the live server, it came top of the team in a T8 battle. So I'm prepared to give it the benefit of the doubt until it's actually released.

The thing is, Cthulhu, is that some of  these testers are players who are so good that they can make a crappy ship look like it's made of golden teflon.

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