136 [ABCD3] pcgamer001 Beta Testers 63 posts 2,745 battles Report post #1 Posted February 2 Just insta citadel from 20 km backline camper. Cruisers were the last fun run for me now they are utterly useless. Rework is terrible spent a lot on this game time to move on. 4 3 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
999 [X-PN] YouSatInGum Members 1,577 posts 12,147 battles Report post #2 Posted February 2 Incoming alert skill is more valuable these days. That said....if you are a cruiser, it is early game, and you get detected....well... its shooting gallery time. I recently got 1 million potential damage in first 4 minutes in a T7 cruiser. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,314 [SALVO] ArIskandir Members 6,932 posts 5,487 battles Report post #3 Posted February 2 IFA cost is 1 pt, if you are suffering from 20 km citadel disease I recommend you take IFA on every cruiser two times a day after meals, when the Incoming message brights red, shake your booty and be somewhere else. 1 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,046 CylonRed Members 5,650 posts 10,977 battles Report post #4 Posted February 2 From my games - a decent CA will do a crap ton of damage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,067 [WORX] Navalpride33 Members 12,638 posts 19,898 battles Report post #5 Posted February 2 Adapt with ICFA... Best 1 pt skill you can ever have. Especially at high tiers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,300 [RBMK] Wye_So_Serious Members 2,202 posts 34,890 battles Report post #6 Posted February 2 12 minutes ago, pcgamer001 said: Just insta citadel from 20 km backline camper. Cruisers were the last fun run for me now they are utterly useless. Rework is terrible spent a lot on this game time to move on. Changing speed and direction constantly when detected is even more important now. Not certain IFA even helps. Try to be more unpredictable. That’s all I’ve got. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,358 [PVE] IfYouSeeKhaos Members 7,852 posts 23,792 battles Report post #7 Posted February 3 (edited) 1 hour ago, Wye_So_Serious said: Changing speed and direction constantly when detected is even more important now. Not certain IFA even helps. Try to be more unpredictable. That’s all I’ve got. IFA is OP helpful for those shots...takes 15 seconds at least for those to get there...a lot easier to dodge when you have that kind of alert ..just maneuver until the red goes away & most everything if not all will miss you. Even from closer ranges if you maneuver until the red goes away you usually only end up taking chip damage... Helps to be at speed instead of sitting still camping though so take that rudder shift mod. Edited February 3 by IfYouSeeKhaos Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
310 [WAIFU] ThiccLoliThighs Members 887 posts 11,596 battles Report post #8 Posted February 3 cruisers are strong asf this patch. If you build them for dpm and position correctly you can easily farm everyone on the field. The best way to deal with what you wrote OP is positioning and improving when you are seen and what actions you are taking in battle. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
483 [CDOH] Rothgar_57 Members 770 posts 8,188 battles Report post #9 Posted February 3 it actually seems that long range shots are more deadly to cruisers if they hit. Perhaps because the shells slow down enough and actually arm more than overpen at distance. Cruiser play is not fun right now. Cant use islands and concealment builds cause Cvs and Long range is much more deadly cause deadeye. If there are any cruiser experts i would appreciate some tips. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
987 LunchCutter Members 1,022 posts 3,050 battles Report post #10 Posted February 3 I haven't noticed any change. Cruisers still get blapped on occasion by a long range salvo but most of the time been cautious and tactical (ie. Don't draw attention to yourself, especially in open water) works. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
15 [ICLAD] Zolors Members 39 posts 15,653 battles Report post #11 Posted February 3 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
358 [PHD] GrayPanther2018 Members 1,844 posts 7,262 battles Report post #12 Posted February 3 (edited) Kind of like playing a DD in CoOp. When spotted by an aircraft at the start of the game turn hard and watch all the shells from bot ships, even ones not in sight, land where you would have been. Don't turn, oh well. I like getting a citadel on a CV at 30 km. The Champagne could do it before the skills rework. Edited February 3 by GrayPanther2018 Additional information Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
971 [4HIM] Morpheous [4HIM] Beta Testers 2,250 posts 16,091 battles Report post #13 Posted February 3 Feel your pain...playing Ibuki...and well its hard, very hard to get over 100k...Captain Bork has killed the CAs and just about taken the fun out of the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
398 [IMP] Torenico Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 445 posts 6,223 battles Report post #14 Posted February 3 Yeah, I'm sure cruisers are dead now, like destroyers! Anybody remember destroyers? You know these small boats that fired some tubes that went boom... you know, everyone plays battleships these days, and CVs of course. Dead classes I tell you! Believe me folks, tremendous BBs killed cruisers and CVs evaporated DDs. It's true! *sigh* 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
34 [2020] weiwaynezhang Members 157 posts 4,192 battles Report post #15 Posted February 3 all you need is to kill the DD that spot for the campers, then they are dead eye blind Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,372 [CVA16] Sabot_100 Members 6,160 posts 18,991 battles Report post #16 Posted February 3 14 hours ago, GrayPanther2018 said: Kind of like playing a DD in CoOp. When spotted by an aircraft at the start of the game turn hard and watch all the shells from bot ships, even ones not in sight, land where you would have been. In my experience that works OK against human players but the bots have a really good course calculator that lets them place shells where you will be if you continue the turn. If you turn after the shells are fired it works, except when the bots get guided shells that hunt you down no matter what you do. One of the downsides of constant heavy WASD is that it will take forever to actually get anywhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
78 [F4E] MN_Nice Members 314 posts 9,603 battles Report post #17 Posted February 3 Absolutely agree on the utility (and need for) Incoming Fire Alert -- and don't forget that in addition to your rudder, you can also change your throttle. Slam on the brakes AND throw the rudder over (port or starboard...either works just as well). Even if those BBs are sniping you from range with Dead Eye and such, that just means that the shots will be in a tighter grouping around the point where they were aimed. You have the time and space to have your cruiser not be in that location when those shots arrive. if you are spotted, and you are at all broadside to the enemy, YOU MUST MANEUVER....IMMEDIATELY and without hesitation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
394 [SALTY] Kartaugh Beta Testers 684 posts 8,012 battles Report post #18 Posted February 3 8 minutes ago, Sabot_100 said: In my experience that works OK against human players but the bots have a really good course calculator that lets them place shells where you will be if you continue the turn. If you turn after the shells are fired it works, except when the bots get guided shells that hunt you down no matter what you do. The bots hit you if you're hitting them. Doubt it? Get within 5km of a bot and start hitting the ocean around it. It's funny as hell, and pretty useful if you're running coop in a DD looking for torp hits and such. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,812 [SALVO] Dr_Venture Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 6,178 posts 6,367 battles Report post #19 Posted February 3 "don't make yourself a target" = don't actively play the game. People don't seem to get it, you open fire...you get targeted by 4 or so ships camping the back. It suddenly becomes MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE and then you eat it. Passive gameplay is passive.... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
483 [CDOH] Rothgar_57 Members 770 posts 8,188 battles Report post #20 Posted February 3 (edited) Full AA build wooster seem pretty good. I got AA defense expert in 2 out 4 games. Getting into range is a problem to actually shoot guns. I am pushing up near cap but everything is so far back. I have no backup cause my BBs are so far back. This game play feels awful as a close support cruiser. Edited February 3 by Rothgar_57 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,981 [A-I-M] MannyD_of_The_Sea Members 3,846 posts 14,851 battles Report post #21 Posted February 3 18 hours ago, ArIskandir said: IFA cost is 1 pt, if you are suffering from 20 km citadel disease... Cue Dire Straits: ”Next patient, please. Send in another victim of blap citadel disease!!” 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
212 [-AGW-] NashW8 Members 1,017 posts 16,208 battles Report post #22 Posted February 3 The real trick in this game is learning how to dodge incoming fire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,372 [CVA16] Sabot_100 Members 6,160 posts 18,991 battles Report post #23 Posted February 3 1 hour ago, Kartaugh said: The bots hit you if you're hitting them. Not sure about that, I might have to check. However, I am familiar with getting spotted early by bot planes in a DD when there is nothing in range to shoot at and having shells rain down. In a tight turn the bots have little trouble predicting where you will be. Something MOST humans struggle a bit with. The bots know your speed (no guessing from the smoke), when you kick your rudder over, when you fire torps and when you load AP. On the other hand, bots will miss the unmissable shot and do other dumb bot things to balance things out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
394 [SALTY] Kartaugh Beta Testers 684 posts 8,012 battles Report post #24 Posted February 3 1 minute ago, Sabot_100 said: Not sure about that, I might have to check. However, I am familiar with getting spotted early by bot planes in a DD when there is nothing in range to shoot at and having shells rain down. In a tight turn the bots have little trouble predicting where you will be. Something MOST humans struggle a bit with. The bots know your speed (no guessing from the smoke), when you kick your rudder over, when you fire torps and when you load AP. On the other hand, bots will miss the unmissable shot and do other dumb bot things to balance things out. I have had a bot BB shoot 12 shells at my Gremy at a range of 3km and miss all of them. I was shooting at the water. Then I tested on the next BB, and at 8km I hit a few shots and got blapped for 11k. Started shooting the water and survived the next salvo with no hits and torped him too. It's not foolproof (it has backfired on me once or twice), but it's pretty good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,372 [CVA16] Sabot_100 Members 6,160 posts 18,991 battles Report post #25 Posted February 3 38 minutes ago, Rothgar_57 said: Full AA build wooster seem pretty good. Seems like the success of that build is highly dependent upon there being at least one CV in the match AND the CV(s) don't have softer targets to molest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
