23 [T3I0F] Shadow_Wolf7 Members 73 posts 3,244 battles Report post #1 Posted January 25 (edited) So the PM description says: "Reduces the risk of main turrets, torpedo tubes, steering gears, and engine becoming incapacitated" and the details say "Risk of modules becoming incapacitated -30%" but I still see people take this for their secondary batteries/AA guns. I've looked this up to get clarification and came across multiple older articles: here, here, and here that state that the secondary batteries/AA guns are not modulus and therefore don't get "incapacitated" they get destroyed and thus PM does not effect them. However, I still see people take it on secondary BB's for this purpose as recently as today in Sea Lord Mounbatten's video (see timestamp 8:24) and also asked on a Discord server where people swore that they have less secondaries/AA mounts go out when they have this skill but that seems to be hard to determine for certain without testing. So I was wondering if anyone can clarify/knows for certain? Thanks. Edited January 25 by Shadow_Wolf7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,281 [WOLFC] Nevermore135 Members 2,393 posts 10,734 battles Report post #2 Posted January 25 (edited) PM has never affected AA mounts or secondary guns, as they are either destroyed or active - never “incapacitated.” The in-game description is fully inclusive and accurate. Edited January 25 by Nevermore135 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,154 [HINON] RipNuN2 Members 13,969 posts Report post #3 Posted January 25 14 minutes ago, Shadow_Wolf7 said: No it does not. There is a module that increases the HP for secondaries and AA. PM only prevents incapacitations on the systems it lists. AA and secondaries cannot be incapacitated, they are either working or destroyed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
216 [WOLF1] Boomer625 Members 728 posts 1,756 battles Report post #4 Posted January 25 16 minutes ago, Shadow_Wolf7 said: So the PM description says: "Reduces the risk of main turrets, torpedo tubes, steering gears, and engine becoming incapacitated" and the details say "Risk of modules becoming incapacitated -30%" but I still see people take this for their secondary batteries/AA guns. I've looked this up to get clarification and came across multiple older articles: here, here, and here that state that the secondary batteries/AA guns are not modulus and therefore don't get "incapacitated" they get destroyed and thus PM does not effect them. However, I still see people take it on secondary BB's for this purpose as recently as today in Sea Lord Mounbatten's video (see timestamp 8:24) and also asked on a Discord server where people swore that they have less secondaries/AA mounts go out when they have this skill but that seems to be hard to determine for certain without testing. So I was wondering if anyone can clarify/knows for certain? Thanks. If you look into the wiki article, it says that secondaries are indeed modules, but they can only be destroyed, not incapitated https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Secondary_Armament Therefore, the risk of incapacitation appears to be not applicable to secondary turrets as they can only be destroyed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,887 [WOLF9] iDuckman Wiki Lead 15,502 posts 4,771 battles Report post #5 Posted January 25 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Shadow_Wolf7 said: Does preventative maintenace help secondaries survive? No. Trust the wiki rather than reddit. https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:List_of_Commander_Skills Boomer has the reason why PM doesn't do that. Edited January 25 by iDuckman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,240 [PVE] IfYouSeeKhaos Members 7,556 posts 23,531 battles Report post #6 Posted January 25 (edited) @Sea_Lord_Mountbatten...although PM is a good skill to take in conjunction w/a 2ndary build (as you will probably be going into harm's way)...thought you might like to be tagged in here so you're not unintentionally misleading your followers into thinking the skill is providing a benefit it isn't :-) Edited January 25 by IfYouSeeKhaos Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
