1,683 [46856] Chain_shot Members 1,899 posts Report post #1 Posted January 24 Thinking back at least over this year i don't recall a clamor of posts or any posts actually asking for a captain skill rework. Does anyone remember that many posts about reworking captain skills as compared to the mass of negative posts about Cv's and people asking to nerf them? Where was this massive outcry like the CV outcry that I missed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9 [OFCS] remington79 Beta Testers 34 posts 8,340 battles Report post #2 Posted January 24 No what they need to do is fix fire and fire spam. I’ve spent entire games on fire. I haven’t noticed any difference with the -10% skill either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
313 [VOP] Airjellyfish Members 935 posts Report post #3 Posted January 24 I don't remember having a single thought about a captain rework or considering a captain rework let alone asking or clamoring for one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12 [POD] sonofliberty89 [POD] Alpha Tester 60 posts 10,690 battles Report post #4 Posted January 24 Just lost range on cruisers nice job WG they always love to ruin things i like. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,683 [46856] Chain_shot Members 1,899 posts Report post #5 Posted January 24 (edited) I did a search of the topic on this forum and the first 32 pages about it were posts that happened since last Thursday. Nothing later than Thursday showed. So I am at a loss, maybe one of the board mods could point me in the right direction and show me where the posts asking for the rework are. https://forum.worldofwarships.com/search/?q=captain skill rework Edited January 24 by Chain_shot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
500 [--K--] Capt_JollyRoger Supertester, Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters 1,795 posts 5,973 battles Report post #6 Posted January 24 3 minutes ago, Chain_shot said: I did a search of the topic on this forum and the first 32 pages about it were posts that happened since last Thursday. Nothing later than Thursday showed. So I am at a loss, maybe one of the board mods could point me in the right direction and show me where the posts asking for the rework are. https://forum.worldofwarships.com/search/?q=captain skill rework use the word commander instead mate. Over 2000 posts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,970 [DEV_X] Skuggsja Alpha Tester 2,642 posts 25,736 battles Report post #7 Posted January 24 Does it even matter though? Games do this to change up the meta or add new features. Plus it's a game in development, it's going to change. I'm not being pro or anti rework here, I'm just saying its here whether anyone loves or hates it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
500 [--K--] Capt_JollyRoger Supertester, Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters 1,795 posts 5,973 battles Report post #8 Posted January 24 18 minutes ago, Chain_shot said: Thinking back at least over this year i don't recall a clamor of posts or any posts actually asking for a captain skill rework. Does anyone remember that many posts about reworking captain skills as compared to the mass of negative posts about Cv's and people asking to nerf them? Where was this massive outcry like the CV outcry that I missed? I found several in the few minutes i searched the forums. Have a look there were some very interesting points made though you might have to dig through about 76k posts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,071 [DRFTR] SKurj Beta Testers 3,712 posts Report post #9 Posted January 24 i've said it before... the skill system in wows is too simplified... last time was a year ago Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,683 [46856] Chain_shot Members 1,899 posts Report post #10 Posted January 24 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Capt_JollyRoger said: use the word commander instead mate. Over 2000 posts. https://forum.worldofwarships.com/search/?&q=commander&page=32&search_and_or=or&sortby=relevancy I just did and the first 32 pages are similar to the search i did. Most posts were no older than last Wed/Thursday and any ones older I saw were questions about how it was going to work. No one was a request to rework the skill tree. I guess this must have been the silent majority demanding it. Edited January 24 by Chain_shot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,198 [WOLFG] DrHolmes52 Members 11,544 posts 10,689 battles Report post #11 Posted January 24 Just now, SKurj said: i've said it before... the skill system in wows is too simplified... last time was a year ago We've found the culprit. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
500 [--K--] Capt_JollyRoger Supertester, Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters 1,795 posts 5,973 battles Report post #12 Posted January 24 2 minutes ago, Chain_shot said: https://forum.worldofwarships.com/search/?&q=commander&page=32&search_and_or=or&sortby=relevancy I just did and the first 32 pages are similar to the search i did. Most posts were no older than last Wed/Thursday and any ones older I saw were question about how it was going to work. No one was a request to rework the skill tree. the first 32 pages are from this week you need to go back a little bit farther.. There are over 2000 pages. You can't say that 32 pages is most of 2000+. Go start at page 130 or so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
266 Whiskey_Rebel Members 472 posts 2,840 battles Report post #13 Posted January 24 Players: Hey, playing the same maps over and over is a real grind. WG: Add more grind. Got it. Players: No, no! Look. Let's engage your interests here. We would probably sink more money into this game if there was more variety! Make sense? WG: More money sinks. Check. Players: ... WG: *squints* We made BBs more accurate at range. Players: Why would you ... Wow. WG: Here, buy some old loot boxes. Players: DO THE BOXES HAVE MAPS?!?!?!!" WG: Maybe? We don't really understand how they work. 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,683 [46856] Chain_shot Members 1,899 posts Report post #14 Posted January 24 Just now, Capt_JollyRoger said: the first 32 pages are from this week you need to go back a little bit farther.. There are over 2000 pages. You can say that 32 pages is most of 2000+. Go start at page 130 or so. I think you are tossing me a red herring. I actually narrowed it to posts that said we need a commander rework and guess what nothing. https://forum.worldofwarships.com/search/?&q=need commander rework&page=6&search_and_or=or&sortby=relevancy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,198 [WOLFG] DrHolmes52 Members 11,544 posts 10,689 battles Report post #15 Posted January 24 1 minute ago, Whiskey_Rebel said: Players: DO THE BOXES HAVE MAPS?!?!?!!" Think about how many boxes they could sell if they had new maps in them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,923 [WORX] Navalpride33 Members 12,420 posts 19,697 battles Report post #16 Posted January 24 (edited) I mentioned this in a different thread... The roots of this change where located in Pigeon's corner thread Along with other threads now achived or deleted because of moderation Now, the forum is not the only way this suggestion was brought up to the DEvs attention... Every WOWS podcast predating patch 0.8.0, had some one asking about changing cpt skill or increasing skills... "Be careful what you ask or demand to augment in the game, you may not like the final product." Edited January 24 by Navalpride33 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
500 [--K--] Capt_JollyRoger Supertester, Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters 1,795 posts 5,973 battles Report post #17 Posted January 24 3 minutes ago, Chain_shot said: I think you are tossing me a red herring. I actually narrowed it to posts that said we need a commander rework and guess what nothing. https://forum.worldofwarships.com/search/?&q=need commander rework&page=6&search_and_or=or&sortby=relevancy I found several. Dont know what to tell you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,683 [46856] Chain_shot Members 1,899 posts Report post #18 Posted January 24 1 minute ago, Capt_JollyRoger said: I found several. Dont know what to tell you. Links Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
977 [CK5] PrairiePlayer Members 1,517 posts 16,221 battles Report post #19 Posted January 24 So an unknown number of "influencers" demanded major changes to game mechanics and WG said OK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,683 [46856] Chain_shot Members 1,899 posts Report post #20 Posted January 24 2 minutes ago, PrairiePlayer said: So an unknown number of "influencers" demanded major changes to game mechanics and WG said OK. Personally I would have thought we would have seen the flurry of posts on par with the anti cv posts hear as proof a huge amount of people wanted the rework. I did not know WG listens to the silent majority so much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
484 [CAAT] SaiIor_Moon Members 912 posts 4,543 battles Report post #21 Posted January 24 1 minute ago, PrairiePlayer said: So an unknown number of "influencers" demanded major changes to game mechanics and WG said OK. I mean, you'd think the number of times I yelled on the forums about buffing California's reload time to 30s, which is a minor change, Wargaming would do it then, but noooooo!!! So I highly doubt "influencers" are at work regarding these major changes, and it's just Wargaming making their mind-bogglingly POOR decisions for the game, as per usual... But now I'm yelling for Wargaming to fix secondaries over California's reload time....ooof. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
11,996 [WOLF3] HazeGrayUnderway [WOLF3] Members 29,479 posts 25,624 battles Report post #22 Posted January 24 33 minutes ago, remington79 said: No what they need to do is fix fire and fire spam. I’ve spent entire games on fire. I haven’t noticed any difference with the -10% skill either. The funny thing about this train of thought is that AP is King, and the ships that deal that damage primarily, Battleships, are typically the Damage Average Leaders up and down the tiers. What is all the rage right now? DEAD EYE BATTLESHIPS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
500 [--K--] Capt_JollyRoger Supertester, Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters 1,795 posts 5,973 battles Report post #23 Posted January 24 It's maybe posts like this that they listened to..... In it they mention class specific commanders. There are many many more posts like this and similar but I wont be pouring through over 76k pages to provide links. Dont have the time in my day to do work for others. Taken from page That would be rather interesting imo. Have class specific commanders with strong tech tree skills, and generalist commanders that can be used on any ship. Only problem and a major one is that it could ruin the whole premium ship commander trainer idea if you want to use a class specific commander. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
162 [-WD-] LastSamurai714 Members 493 posts 9,322 battles Report post #24 Posted January 24 Make no mistake...behind the scenes, WG feels this change will benefit them monetarily. This is not for us, they just have to find a way to feed it to us. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,683 [46856] Chain_shot Members 1,899 posts Report post #25 Posted January 24 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Capt_JollyRoger said: It's maybe posts like this that they listened to..... In it they mention class specific commanders. There are many many more posts like this and similar but I wont be pouring through over 76k pages to provide links. Dont have the time in my day to do work for others. Taken from page That would be rather interesting imo. Have class specific commanders with strong tech tree skills, and generalist commanders that can be used on any ship. Only problem and a major one is that it could ruin the whole premium ship commander trainer idea if you want to use a class specific commander. So you found no posts that specifically asked for commander skill rework? I mean we have specific posts about nerfing CV's but I find it interesting they (WG) synthesized a rework based on posts that may be alluding to it. If that's the only post then your point is taking on water as they say. Edited January 24 by Chain_shot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
