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Buy your own 21 skill commander in the next update, co$t calculated.

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Want a NEW 21 skill commander for your new British yacht, HMS Black Swan? Here is a budget breakdown for you:

 

So you buy a 10pts commander ---in the new world, you can buy a 10-skill Run-of-the-mill commander from WG for 1,500 doubs

retire it with doubloons   ----100% of experience earned at the cost of 110 experience per 1 doubloon.|| 183,000 / 110 = 1664 Doubloons per 10p Captain

use the newly acquired EXP on your legendary commanders

Voila, day one 21 pts commander!  ----19pts to 21pts:  1,200,000  / 183,000 = 7 (6.55 rounded up) Commanders needed to be Exchanged

Win-Win! You pay, WG runs the game!

From scratch: 1500 doubloon for 10pts commander

2,700,000 exp needed to reach rank 21

2,700,000/183,000 = 15(14.75rounded up) Commanders needed to be Exchanged.

15* 1664 = 24,960

24960 + 1500 = 26460!

Cost: 26460/25,000*35= 37.044

Cost: $37 out of your credit card

(Plus 15 organ donor commanders died for your one true master)

 

F2P refer to #10 and #14 of this thread

More calculations(Though not as good as mine, but thanks to her, don't know why she is paying so much for his doubloons): 

 

If you have credits, 280M gets you from 0 to 21.

(and an hour of clicking, recruiting & retiring)

If you have doubloons, 22148 doubloons can get you from 19 to 21.

($80 according to some of the my friends below)

 

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Even if you don't spend any money, that is a lot of work.  I have 110 ships to re-due the commanders skills on.  That is going to take forever.

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Spoiler: competitive aspect was ruined when they announced carriers were coming to clan battles. I went from fighting for #1 in clan battles to not playing the game at all back in February, and just recently came back in a small capacity playing random only

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22 minutes ago, Illustratum_AEternam said:

The new system has been tested like once for a week

It was PUBLIC tested once for a week. WG does far more testing than than that.

As for increase, obviously you have to put in more work for more points. What did you expect? WG to give you another 2 points for free?

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2 minutes ago, Illustratum_AEternam said:

26460 god coins

Oh man... I'll settle for just a handful of god coin... how much is the rate for simple miracles these days?

/joke

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3 minutes ago, AJTP89 said:

It was PUBLIC tested once for a week. WG does far more testing than than that.

As for increase, obviously you have to put in more work for more points. What did you expect? WG to give you another 2 points for free?

Something would be nice. I only have two 19 point captains, but that's still 4 million captain xp needed to re-max them out.

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does this really need a brand new topic? Why not just reply to the topic you have quoted?

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My rough math says you could get a 21 point commander if you have 300 or so million credits lying around.

step 1, buy a 6 point commander (who has 37K XP) for 900,000.

step 2, sell him for 9,250 (25% of 37K) ECXP for 92,500 (10 credits for 1 ECXP),

step 3, do steps 1 and 2 roughly 300 more times.

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6 minutes ago, HonniSoitQuiMalYPense said:

does this really need a brand new topic? Why not just reply to the topic you have quoted?

Because a comment as... wrong... as this would probably get deleted to downvoted in a more popular thread

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5 minutes ago, HonniSoitQuiMalYPense said:

does this really need a brand new topic? Why not just reply to the topic you have quoted?

Shhhhh,

we are talking about pay2win

It is a different topic, not a new/old comparison.

Mine is your Feb budget for a new start.

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44 minutes ago, Illustratum_AEternam said:

From scratch: 1500 doubloon for 10pts commander

2,700,000 exp needed to reach rank 21

2,700,000/183,000 = 15(14.75rounded up) Commanders needed to be Exchanged.

15* 1664 = 24,960

24960 + 1500 = 26460!

Cost: 26460/25,000*35= 37.044

Cost: $37 out of your credit card

This math really isn't adding up. That cost calculation makes zero sense. You're dividing the needed doubloons by 25,000 then multiplying by 35 to get the dollar amount? 

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29 minutes ago, Glamorboy said:

My rough math says you could get a 21 point commander if you have 300 or so million credits lying around.

step 1, buy a 6 point commander (who has 37K XP) for 900,000.

step 2, sell him for 9,250 (25% of 37K) ECXP for 92,500 (10 credits for 1 ECXP),

step 3, do steps 1 and 2 roughly 300 more times.

2,800,000/9250= 303 (302.7 rounded up)

304 * 900,000= 273,600,000  credits

I saved this much in 1 and half-year

You make 200,000 per game with premium ship during premium acocunt

It will be 1,368 games, 

on average 12 minutes per game(Matching making, waiting, playing)

16,416 minutes

this is 11 and half days of playing. 

 

In reality, it will be much faster thanks to daily missions.

If you are a good player making 500,000 per game, only about 4 and half days would be enough

or a super good player making 1 million credits per game, you can finish it in 2 days(for a new commander plus an upgraded 21pts from grinding). 

Super good players, two 21pts commanders every 3 days.

 

 

Or buy it from the premium shop:

$35 per 62,500,000

273,600,000/62,500,000 = 4.378 purchases.

It will be  $153

Assume you earn $2 per day, a $37 commander is only 18 days' wage

comparing to pure f2p with a tier 9 FXP premium ship, the grind is more worth it

You can get 2 fully spaded commanders in 12 days of grind. 

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3 minutes ago, Illustratum_AEternam said:

Shhhhh,

we are talking about pay2win

It is a different topic, not a new/old comparison.

Mine is your Feb budget for a new start.

you do realize that according to the figures you state

46 minutes ago, Illustratum_AEternam said:

So you buy a 10pts commander ---in the new world, you can buy a 10-skill Run-of-the-mill commander from WG for 1,500 doubs

retire it with doubloons   ----100% of experience earned at the cost of 110 experience per 1 doubloon.|| 183,000 / 110 = 1664 Doubloons per 10p Captain

and

48 minutes ago, Illustratum_AEternam said:

Voila, day one 21 pts commander!  ----19pts to 21pts:  1,200,000  / 183,000 = 7 (6.55 rounded up) Commanders needed to be Exchanged

 

(1500 + 1664 = 3164 doublons x 7) will cost about 80 US $ (according to the information you post in the' OP) in the premium shop (my local prices look slightly different to what you will pay in the US). Rather more than 37 $. Are you just trying to confuse everybody?

It is far safer to trust Fem's cost breakdown than this.

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There's plenty of these 21-point threads and they are all negative ("money grab', "the feature no one asked for" etc.). I for one look forward to the new skill system and have exactly zero problems with the higher requirements before you max a captain out. Will I spend $37 to buy a 21-point captain? No. Will I play the game and eventually get there? Yes. Move on.

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2 minutes ago, Toxygene said:

There's plenty of these 21-point threads and they are all negative ("money grab', "the feature no one asked for" etc.). I for one look forward to the new skill system and have exactly zero problems with the higher requirements before you max a captain out. Will I spend $37 to buy a 21-point captain? No. Will I play the game and eventually get there? Yes. Move on.

Thank you !

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43 minutes ago, Illustratum_AEternam said:

god coins

He isn't wrong...they are indeed God coins here.

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4 minutes ago, LowSpeed_US said:

He isn't wrong...they are indeed God coins here.

oh damn, misspell

how much does 25k doubloon cost in your country?

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27 minutes ago, HonniSoitQuiMalYPense said:

you do realize that according to the figures you state

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(1500 + 1664 = 3164 doublons x 7) will cost about 80 US $ (according to the information you post in the' OP) in the premium shop (my local prices look slightly different to what you will pay in the US). Rather more than 37 $. Are you just trying to confuse everybody?

It is far safer to trust Fem's cost breakdown than this.

She didn't even list what she has been calculating.

She is doing math for 19-->21 calculation.

This is 0--->21 calculation.

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Just now, Illustratum_AEternam said:

how much does 25k doubloon cost in your country?

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Well, being competitive is always expensive... any hobby, game or sport (maybe not chess, still you need enough time which is expensive in its own way) requires significant investment to be in the competitive cutting edge... hardly surprising.

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11 minutes ago, Illuminatius_Divinus said:

She didn't even list what she has been calculating.

She is doing math for 19-->21 calculation.

This is 0--->21 calculation.

let me quote you

1 hour ago, Illustratum_AEternam said:

Voila, day one 21 pts commander!  ----19pts to 21pts:  1,200,000  / 183,000 = 7 (6.55 rounded up) Commanders needed to be Exchanged

you clearly state, 19 pts to 21 pts, not 0-21.

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The cost for 37K doubloons is closer to $150 (usd)

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The 30K "special" is $118.80 (USD)

 

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* WG in a shady bar, leaning over to talk to the player: *

 

"So, what are those two Captain skill points worth to you, kid?"

 

 

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