419 [POP] Dasha_Eyes Members 1,030 posts 15,791 battles Report post #1 Posted December 14, 2020 The bot DD's on my team in Randoms sat like this the entire game. Meanwhile, the Red Team's DD bots are torpin' er'body up in there.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,417 [RLGN] Estimated_Prophet Members 15,178 posts 26,825 battles Report post #2 Posted December 14, 2020 Bots is the sausage? But yeah; the logic decision loops bots get stuck in sometimes can only make you shake your head. I watched a bot Monarch on (Co-op) Shards get stuck in one of those gaps around C... ...it, FINALLY, managed to work its way out of being stuck, only to immediately start reversing what it had done and get stuck again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,035 [WOLFG] DrHolmes52 Members 11,180 posts 10,408 battles Report post #3 Posted December 14, 2020 If they get close to each other, they like to stop and talk. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,030 [HINON] RipNuN2 Members 13,829 posts Report post #4 Posted December 14, 2020 Just now, DrHolmes52 said: If they get close to each other, they like to stop and talk. Thus begins the process of how new bots are created . . . 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8,475 [GWG] BrushWolf [GWG] Alpha Tester 27,495 posts 14,827 battles Report post #5 Posted December 14, 2020 There were "smart" bots for a short time once and the uproar was deafening. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
18 [ROTTN] rayspotter Members 56 posts 14,770 battles Report post #6 Posted December 14, 2020 1 hour ago, RipNuN2 said: Thus begins the process of how new bots are created . . . OK, that made me make a mess of my keyboard. thank you for that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,079 [PVE] IfYouSeeKhaos Members 7,296 posts 23,183 battles Report post #7 Posted December 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Estimated_Prophet said: Bots is the sausage? I think he meant, "BRAT is the WURST" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
297 [PVE] MasterDiggs Members 1,125 posts 9,566 battles Report post #8 Posted December 15, 2020 At least humans have the decency to take that sort of thing behind a rock for privacy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,160 [POP] MidnightPhoenix07 Members 4,749 posts 12,813 battles Report post #9 Posted December 15, 2020 1 hour ago, BrushWolf said: There were "smart" bots for a short time once and the uproar was deafening. Because all the "smart" bots would do was turn around and run as soon as they were attacked, resulting in co-op games getting needlessly dragged out having to chase bots across the map. At one point they also tested increased bot AI on PTS, but the AI was set so high that you needed a team of really strong co-op mains to have a decent chance of winning (and if I recall correctly that either didn't make it to live at all or was rolled back pretty quickly). Both times the uproar was not about the fact that bots weren't 'easy mode' kills anymore, rather the fact that they weren't "smart" or went from one extreme to the other. Most of the dedicated co-op mains were for an increase in allied and enemy bot AI, but both attempts were sledgehammer changes that resulted in even more problems rather than addressing most the issues co-op mains were pointing out. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
11 [L-H] clmrone111 Members 35 posts 20,870 battles Report post #10 Posted December 15, 2020 That was a epic weekend with the smarter Botts. Win rates were below 50% for the humans in COOP. And yes, people were pisses. Lols Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8,475 [GWG] BrushWolf [GWG] Alpha Tester 27,495 posts 14,827 battles Report post #11 Posted December 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, MidnightPhoenix07 said: Because all the "smart" bots would do was turn around and run as soon as they were attacked, resulting in co-op games getting needlessly dragged out having to chase bots across the map. At one point they also tested increased bot AI on PTS, but the AI was set so high that you needed a team of really strong co-op mains to have a decent chance of winning (and if I recall correctly that either didn't make it to live at all or was rolled back pretty quickly). Both times the uproar was not about the fact that bots weren't 'easy mode' kills anymore, rather the fact that they weren't "smart" or went from one extreme to the other. Most of the dedicated co-op mains were for an increase in allied and enemy bot AI, but both attempts were sledgehammer changes that resulted in even more problems rather than addressing most the issues co-op mains were pointing out. True but if you played the objectives more like in randoms you could easily get 500 base experience for a not much longer match time without being top of the charts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12 [TWWB] scoots76 Members 116 posts Report post #12 Posted December 15, 2020 (edited) On 12/14/2020 at 3:20 PM, Dasha_Eyes said: The bot DD's on my team in Randoms sat like this the entire game. Meanwhile, the Red Team's DD bots are torpin' er'body up in there.... Lol guess the bots needs more ram (not the Random Access Memory kind) for proper functionality. Granted this personally a tad on the amusing side. Can imagine it being frustrating for you guys/gals in that round if they are the only 2 bots to survive until the end... Edited December 16, 2020 by scoots76 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,708 [WPORT] Wolfswetpaws Members 7,174 posts 12,186 battles Report post #13 Posted December 15, 2020 (edited) "... machines need love, too. ..." Sarah Connor's answering machine greeting, from the movie "The Terminator" Spoiler Hi, there. Fooled you. You're talking to a machine. But don't be shy. It's OK. Machines need love, too. http://www.script-o-rama.com/movie_scripts/t/terminator-script-transcript-arnold-schwarzenegger.html Edited December 15, 2020 by Wolfswetpaws Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
200 [SWDT] Singularity_invader Members 474 posts 10,115 battles Report post #14 Posted December 18, 2020 (edited) On 12/14/2020 at 5:15 PM, BrushWolf said: There were "smart" bots for a short time once and the uproar was deafening. The only logical reason is that WG refused to increase rewards for co-op battles and random battles with bots after filling in the "smart" bots. Let's face it: people would accept more difficult challenges if the rewards are high enough. It's part of human nature really. Edited December 18, 2020 by Singularity_invader Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8,475 [GWG] BrushWolf [GWG] Alpha Tester 27,495 posts 14,827 battles Report post #15 Posted December 18, 2020 53 minutes ago, Singularity_invader said: The only logical reason is that WG refused to increase rewards for co-op battles and random battles with bots after filling in the "smart" bots. Let's face it: people would accept more difficult challenges if the rewards are high enough. It's part of human nature really. Actually they did increase the rewards because playing the objectives would yield a comfortable 500 or so base, instead of the more typical 300, for a match that was only a couple of minutes longer. The people that continued to play to kill were the ones that didn't get more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
200 [SWDT] Singularity_invader Members 474 posts 10,115 battles Report post #16 Posted December 18, 2020 8 minutes ago, BrushWolf said: Actually they did increase the rewards because playing the objectives would yield a comfortable 500 or so base, instead of the more typical 300, for a match that was only a couple of minutes longer. The people that continued to play to kill were the ones that didn't get more. Wouldn't scenarios/objectives be another subject matter than co-op and random games though? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
214 [TFFOX] AdmiralFox08 Members 972 posts 2,157 battles Report post #17 Posted December 18, 2020 (edited) I was grinding gangut a week ago and there was a bot myogi on my team who rammed an island, reversed, rammed an island, reversed, rammed an island, and reversed. what a moron. Edited December 18, 2020 by AdmiralFox08 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
489 [NSEW] LowSpeed_US Members 2,153 posts 11,532 battles Report post #18 Posted December 18, 2020 Was expecting a pun...(walks away grumbling) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,522 [NONE] Bilgetwidget Members 3,757 posts Report post #19 Posted December 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, LowSpeed_US said: Was expecting a pun...(walks away grumbling) If bots are being brats, are they bratwurst? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
295 [TF16B] ole_seabee [TF16B] Members 141 posts 16,226 battles Report post #20 Posted December 18, 2020 i wish bots were much tougher in co-op then you might see some team work instead of the rush up kill that inindates this mode. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
515 [A-D-F] Curly__san Members 1,290 posts 12,046 battles Report post #21 Posted December 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Balon_Greyjoy said: If bots are being brats, are they bratwurst? Brats? Even wurst: they're Hakarls!? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites