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Fairly new to the game.  Everyone seems to complain about the same thing.  WHY would a T10 ship be pitted against a T7 or 8???  Makes no sense.  This NEEDS to be fixed! 

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There is only a two tier spread at higher tiers (X to VIII).  You won't see a tier VII playing against a tier X unless they got sucked into it through a Division.  There has been allot of discussion about making it a one tier spread, with the biggest argument being that it would increase que times.  Personally, it depends on the ship.  Some ships up tier very well.  Others, you might as well go take a nap.  You do get more experience for damaging higher tier ships than yours.  So there is a small payoff.   

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8 minutes ago, MadMaderia said:

Fairly new to the game.  Everyone seems to complain about the same thing.  WHY would a T10 ship be pitted against a T7 or 8???  Makes no sense.  This NEEDS to be fixed! 

Being fairly new to the game, let me introduce you to some WoWs jargon - “fail div”: 2 players of different tiers, where the higher tier ship drags the lower tier ship into a battle he should never see.  Don’t fail div.  People who’ve gotten to tier 7 should know this mechanic, oh right, you’re new to the game... and playing tier 7 ships... your teams must love that :cap_old:

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32 minutes ago, MadMaderia said:

Fairly new to the game.  Everyone seems to complain about the same thing.  WHY would a T10 ship be pitted against a T7 or 8???  Makes no sense.  This NEEDS to be fixed! 

Tier VIII is better off facing Tier X than Tier VII is facing Tier VIII.  The number of critical buffs that happen going from Tier VII to Tier VIII is silly.  Concealment module, radar, HE penetration for CLs, plating increases.  It all adds up and when combined with the usual health, armor and damage output increases it is a big difference.  Also, Tier VII receives no, none, nada protection from Tier VIII whereas Tier VIII can only see Tier Xs in 40% of matches.  Tier VII has that protection against Tier IX.

Keep in mind that you get more EXP for hurting higher tier ships with lower tier ships.

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A T7 ship will only play vs T10s if they choose to play in a division with a T8 ship. It’s not something the MM will otherwise allow. 

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T8 ship can handle T10 ship just fine. That is if you're not playing like an idiot.

 

T7 ship never meets T10 ship under normal circumstances. If you meet a T10 in your T7 ship then don't division with people using T8 ship

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2 hours ago, MadMaderia said:

Fairly new to the game.  Everyone seems to complain about the same thing.  WHY would a T10 ship be pitted against a T7 or 8???  Makes no sense.  This NEEDS to be fixed! 

@Everyone...

His name doesn't even seem to be available on the forums...did Everyone complain to you about that while you were in battle w/him?

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Keeping in mind that I am terrible at this game here is my experience at uptiering.....

Battleship uptiered: Don't lead the charge or push the cap first, always have an exit strategy, huddle near higher tier ships if CV is present, never stop moving. Low chance of getting rekt

Cruiser uptiered: Don't fire in the open, marry the largest island and never leave her side unless she develops suitors, be the mini map, don't be a hero. Moderate chance of getting rekt

Destroyer uptiered: It's over Johnny, it's over. But, don't try to cap early, spot but don't shoot, don't sit in smoke due to radar and torpedo magnetism. High chance of getting rekt

CV: Unknown. 

Also, since the OP is newish, stick to low tiers and concentrate on survival skills. When you play more T9 is now the new T7 and is the sweet spot for randoms, in my humble opinion. 

Fair seas. 

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A t7 bote can NEVER meet a t10 bote unless faildiv with a t8 bote. (Faildiv is a div with a 2 tier spread, so 7/8, 5/6 etc.) Only time that it is feasible to run a faildiv is if you're in a t8 or 9 bote, and are happy to be uptiered

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Because t5 and 6 can see t7 and 8 respectively so its only fair they feel how a ship 2 tiers lower than them feels when getting griefed by you.

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12 hours ago, MadMaderia said:

Fairly new to the game.  Everyone seems to complain about the same thing.  WHY would a T10 ship be pitted against a T7 or 8???  Makes no sense.  This NEEDS to be fixed! 

This is going to be a direct question - so snowflake alert:

Why are you playing Tier VII+?

With your experience you will absolutely get your head handed to you at the higher tiers - and you have.  It is not a mystery.  It is not the tier spread.  There are many players with a ton of experience and high skill level at the upper tiers.  That is how tiers should work.  They can beat you - in your Tier VII ship - in a Tier V ship.

It is not 'illegal' or 'immoral' to play high tiers with less than 500 battles and a horrific WR - it is just kinda silly.  But, you be you.  If you like feeding yourself to your betters than keep on keepin' on!!!

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15 hours ago, MadMaderia said:

Fairly new to the game.  Everyone seems to complain about the same thing.  WHY would a T10 ship be pitted against a T7 or 8???  Makes no sense.  This NEEDS to be fixed! 

Based on your service record, I think that a fair amount of your frustration has to do with the tiers you're playing (esp 8+), not the tier spread. I recommend heading back down to tiers 5-6 for several hundred more battles (maybe 1,000) and trying again.

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You have to play a bit smarter when facing TX ships, but I have no problems fighting them in T7 or T8.

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On 12/12/2020 at 7:26 PM, MadMaderia said:

Fairly new to the game.  Everyone seems to complain about the same thing.  WHY would a T10 ship be pitted against a T7 or 8???  Makes no sense.  This NEEDS to be fixed! 

Unless it's a fail division, a T7 won't see a T10.

As for T8s vs T10s, I'll take a good player in a T8 over a poor player in a T10.  Good T8 players can perform very well in T10 matches.  Nothing to fix.

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