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Is the Black coming to Armory soon?

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I really, REALLY wanted the Black for coal so I started grinding. It didn't show up, so what to do? If it is likely to show up this time next year, I have time to get more coal. If you think it will be sooner, I can wait.

I got a Pommern in a Christmas Crate and was thinking about getting Gunther Lutjens to stick in it.

There is a coupon that I can use to get the Thunderer for 189k.

97% of my battles have been in USN ships - mostly DDs. Recently I've been thinking about fighting another nations ships, coincidentally, GB and Germany.

Any thoughts you might have would be appreciated.

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I was looking forward to the Black as well and was a little disappointed when it did not show up (I am certainly not going to spend coal on the overpriced Neustrashimy)  .  As far as when Black will be available, I don't think anyone outside of WG really knows.  If you can get the Thunderer, do so, because you will not regret it and it looks like you will have some time to collect more coal for when the Black does appear.  

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I too hope it comes back, truth is only wg knows. Fiven theyre pulling smal as a radar dd however makes me pessimistic...

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Thunderer it is. Thanks for your input.

I have 311k coal so I'm well on the way no matter how much coal the Black will take.

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3 minutes ago, Shadow_Woof said:

Well Thunderer is actually going away soon, so that should be your priority.

I was curious about that, but I wasn't sure.

Agreed. Just got it.

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No idea on when Black will return, but judging by the pricing of Neustrashimy and Flint I expect it around the 200-230k coal range, perhaps even a bit more.

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I thought Black was already back, must have seen Flint was returning and assumed Black was coming with since they were removed together.


But as others have said you can't go wrong with Thunderer.

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8 minutes ago, Scarlet_Eagle said:

There is a coupon that I can use to get the Thunderer for 189k.

Do that, ASAP.

Black will be around for awhile, and Thunderer is leaving soon.

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Yup, waiting for Black too. Was disappointed it wasn't offered. Had Flint already (Steel), got Neustrashimy from Santa crate (was assured for me as I was only missing 2 ships off the list - it and Z35 -  so I didn't get it with Coal), and have all the other Coal ships. Sitting on just under 1 Million Coal and nothing to use it on (I will only use Coal for ships).

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I believe Black will end up in the rare ship list.

Radar + smoke is a recipe of OP in many's eyes. 

Black is too good to be coal to be honest. 

 

BTW, both Neustrashimy and Flint was NEVER being considered as OP. I guess WG remove them only because nearly no one will use steel for them. 

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Yeah, I took the Flint, was disappointed as I'm taking all the USN coal ships. Not much for playing Cruisers. Discovered the Flint was kinda like a up-gunned Benson with a hydro. Now I really like playing her.

Got the Z-35 in a Santa crate.

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6 minutes ago, sapient007 said:

I believe Black will end up in the rare ship list.

Radar + smoke is a recipe of OP in many's eyes. 

Black is too good to be coal to be honest:Smile_sceptic:

:Smile_great:Actually USS Black is too powercrept to be OP

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13 minutes ago, sapient007 said:

I believe Black will end up in the rare ship list.

Radar + smoke is a recipe of OP in many's eyes. 

Black is too good to be coal to be honest. 

 

BTW, both Neustrashimy and Flint was NEVER being considered as OP. I guess WG remove them only because nearly no one will use steel for them. 

Except WG specifically said Flint, Neustrashimy, and Black would all be back for Coal. I have not seen a retraction about Black.

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1 hour ago, Scarlet_Eagle said:

I was curious about that, but I wasn't sure.

Agreed. Just got it.

Congratulations, she’s a fine ship.

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5 minutes ago, shadowsrmine said:

:Smile_great:Actually USS Black is too powercrept to be OP

In random, maybe, long range radar is flooding high tier game this days.

Tier for tier in rank, go find some T9 rank recommendations content anywhere. 

Nothing power crepted radar smoke combo, at least not yet. 

2 minutes ago, AdmiralThunder said:

Except WG specifically said Flint, Neustrashimy, and Black would all be back for Coal. I have not seen a retraction about Black.

WG promise:Smile_coin:...... you know.

I personally hope you're right this time because I did not get myself one yet. 

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14 minutes ago, sapient007 said:

I believe Black will end up in the rare ship list.

Radar + smoke is a recipe of OP in many's eyes. 

Black is too good to be coal to be honest. 

 

BTW, both Neustrashimy and Flint was NEVER being considered as OP. I guess WG remove them only because nearly no one will use steel for them. 

Black isn’t close to being “too good to be coal.” The ship’s short duration radar is really only useful for panic flushing DDs out of their smoke, unless you have a coordinated division of ships that will actually focus fire what you spot. Her torpedoes are too slow to be used reactively, and will usually only hit the most brain dead of smoke campers. 

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I expect to see her in the armory in a month or two. I suspect WG didn’t want to drop Black, Flint, and Neustrashimy in the same patch and held off on Black to spread out their content. Especially since the recent announcement of Georgia and Thunderer leaving armory is likely to suck up a lot of players’ coal. As others have already said, WG said that all three would return for coal at some time, no sooner than 6 months after they were pulled.

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2 hours ago, warheart1992 said:

No idea on when Black will return, but judging by the pricing of Neustrashimy and Flint I expect it around the 200-230k coal range, perhaps even a bit more.

I agree. Not that it provides a known price, but Black was going for about 68% the cost of the Neustrashimy when both were listed for steel

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If that ratio holds for coal, the Black would be ~ 202,000 ... 

And ... I'm waiting for its return as well.

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2 hours ago, RainbowFartingUnicorn said:

Get Thunderer with your coupon. You will not regret it.

IMHO the Thunderer is one the best ships in the game if not the best

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I have both Black and Thunderer. I wanted Black for the longest time, and when I got it, I was disappointed. Frankly, Black has been power crept into oblivion.

I got Thunderer thinking it would be  just a 457mm Conqueror. I didn't expect much. Once I played it however, I was very much impressed. Thunderer is flat out Awesome. You will LOVE it. 

There is a reason WG is removing it. Thunderer is so good, don't be surprised if WG finds a way to "globally" nerf it at some point. 

Really, it's no contest at all: get Thunderer. You will never regret it. 

Thunderer is probably the best ship in the game at the moment. Pull the trigger.

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5 hours ago, Skpstr said:

Do that, ASAP.

Black will be around for awhile, and Thunderer is leaving soon.

Actually Black is not around...which prompted the thread.

It was pulled same time as Neut & Flint (they were all steel ships at that time) & hasn't returned yet...but by the time it does (they did state they would all be available for coal at some time) OP will have plenty of time to farm more coal for it.

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