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She barks, she drools, she claws...

I set out to gather potential damage and maybe get myself killed in the process, and instead I turned in this rip-snorter of an effort:

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Vid to follow when I have the time to make it. This thing is a freaking monster, and I HAVEN'T EVEN PUT THE UPGRADE MODULES IN THEIR SLOTS YET! 

(Captain is 16 points, PT EM BOS FP SI)

Streets ahead of Kansas. There is no contest. I can only imagine what the Vermont is going to be like.

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Land of Sky Tinted Waters.

The word Minnesota comes from the Dakota name for the Minnesota River, which got its name from one of two words in Dakota: "mní sóta", which means "clear blue water", or "Mníssota", which means "cloudy water".

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Minnesota is also known as the "Bread and Butter State" because of its numerous flourmills and butter-making plants. Another nickname for the state is the "Land of 10,000 Lakes." Minnesota has over 15,000 lakes, however.
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It may not be an amazing ship, but I'm enjoying mine and generally having decent games. The gunnery feels much more comfortable than the Kansas.

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3 hours ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

She barks, she drools, she claws...

I set out to gather potential damage and maybe get myself killed in the process, and instead I turned in this rip-snorter of an effort:

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Vid to follow when I have the time to make it. This thing is a freaking monster, and I HAVEN'T EVEN PUT THE UPGRADE MODULES IN THEIR SLOTS YET! 

(Captain is 16 points, PT EM BOS FP SI)

Streets ahead of Kansas. There is no contest. I can only imagine what the Vermont is going to be like.

If WG wasn’t putting an end to the mission-based UU quests, maybe I’d have time to find out.

As it is; Kansas is such a peerless pile of unmotivational dullness I may never find out.

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It's pretty mediocre in a brawl

- Sh*t secondaries.

- Can be Citadeled but harder for that to happen compared to Iowa.

- If the secondaries can't provide close range brawl firepower, your extremely slow reloading main battery is not going to do you any favors either.

- So slow that brawling opportunities in 3-5 minute Co-op games are fleeting.

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3 hours ago, HazeGrayUnderway said:

It's pretty mediocre in a brawl

144K damage and three kills is mediocre. Okay, I'll bear that in mind. 

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2 hours ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

144K damage and three kills is mediocre. Okay, I'll bear that in mind. 

I think that all of that line, to include the Florida can have good brawling matches....  I have had a few in the Florida.  So..........were you in the right place with the right ship.......yes.  Is that Minny a killer?  Sort of......same as any other of the clone US BB's.  I picked up the Florida because it is a Premium of that ILK and dropped a 19 point US CPT in her for the Santa Eve event.  Would I buy the TT clones?   Only if they were painted pure white and black and their CPT's talked through a speaker.........

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7 hours ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

144K damage and three kills is mediocre. Okay, I'll bear that in mind. 

That the best?  You could do a lot better in others.

Pommern for one.

GK.

Georgia

FDG

Alsace

Etc.

The list goes on.  Lots of things are better.

 

Trash secondaries.  Not even Secondary Spec makes them good.  Range is supbar still and even worse, the reload of the 127mm secondary battery is awful.

Stupidly long main battery reload.

Stupidly slow speed.

 

Not only does she struggle to get into a brawl, but her offensive options suck.  That's not an exciting brawler.  Those are garbage tier values.

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Wait until you get to the Vermont.  It is way ahead of the Minnesota.  Had a monster game in it yesterday - posted in the Best games in Coop thread.  It damaged, it killed, and it tanked (2.3 million potential damage).  All at 24.1 knots.

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23 hours ago, Sovereigndawg said:

Land of Sky Tinted Waters.

The word Minnesota comes from the Dakota name for the Minnesota River, which got its name from one of two words in Dakota: "mní sóta", which means "clear blue water", or "Mníssota", which means "cloudy water".

Bread and Butter State
 
Minnesota is also known as the "Bread and Butter State" because of its numerous flourmills and butter-making plants. Another nickname for the state is the "Land of 10,000 Lakes." Minnesota has over 15,000 lakes, however.

Minnesota exists to protect Iowa from Canada. 

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16 hours ago, HazeGrayUnderway said:

Lots of things are better.

Lots of things are better specialist brawlers because that's the gimmick they've been built around.

Let us judge her in the context of those ships which are NOT specialist brawlers.

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10 hours ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

Lots of things are better specialist brawlers because that's the gimmick they've been built around.

Let us judge her in the context of those ships which are NOT specialist brawlers.

You made a thread on the idea of Brawling.

 

Offensively these new USN Battleships are among the worst you can get even in a brawl.

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On 12/8/2020 at 12:50 AM, Estimated_Prophet said:

As it is; Kansas is such a peerless pile of unmotivational dullness I may never find out.

Yep.  I keep seeing some streamers play it and claim Kan't-sas is a good boat that gets good damage numbers.  So I pull mine out of port and hit the Battle button.  By the time the 2nd salvo loads I'm asking myself "Why am I playing this again?"  I've even drifted off to sleep while sailing it in battle.  

But I've seen some streamers who love it.  To each their own I guess.  

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On 12/7/2020 at 10:10 PM, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

She barks, she drools, she claws...

I set out to gather potential damage and maybe get myself killed in the process, and instead I turned in this rip-snorter of an effort:

shot-20_12.07_23_19.04-0040.thumb.jpg.b3bfc9a0d08ca5a1de5829d74005ca41.jpg

Vid to follow when I have the time to make it. This thing is a freaking monster, and I HAVEN'T EVEN PUT THE UPGRADE MODULES IN THEIR SLOTS YET! 

(Captain is 16 points, PT EM BOS FP SI)

Streets ahead of Kansas. There is no contest. I can only imagine what the Vermont is going to be like.

:Smile_great:

 

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On 12/9/2020 at 6:38 PM, HazeGrayUnderway said:

You made a thread on the idea of Brawling.

I made a thread on what happens when you NEED to brawl in a ship which isn't optimized for it.

I made it clear at the start that this had been a mission to farm potential damage. I NEEDED TO GET SHOT AT, and I needed to get shot at in this ship specifically (because I don't have either of the other eligible ships), so I went straight in to where all the action was happening. I anticipated a quick demise. I did not anticipate getting to do 140K-plus damage and sinking three enemy ships. THAT outcome is why I made this post.

Is this clear enough to you now?

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On 12/12/2020 at 4:44 AM, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

I made a thread on what happens when you NEED to brawl in a ship which isn't optimized for it.

I made it clear at the start that this had been a mission to farm potential damage. I NEEDED TO GET SHOT AT, and I needed to get shot at in this ship specifically (because I don't have either of the other eligible ships), so I went straight in to where all the action was happening. I anticipated a quick demise. I did not anticipate getting to do 140K-plus damage and sinking three enemy ships. THAT outcome is why I made this post.

Is this clear enough to you now?

Damage Potential in a very slow BB?  They're still awful.

Unless there literally is nothing for the bots in the area to focus on, these slow USN BBs are terrible to rack up on Damage Potential because they're too far back.  I remember a lot of games playing MinneSLOWta where Musashi, Pommern, FDG, Alsace players zipped right past me and killed everything.  I had a lot of HP and my Damage Potential sucked when the game was over.

Matter of fact, I brought this up MANY times in that other thread during my MinneSLOWta grind.

 

It only got good if literally nobody else was there in my area and the bots came to me, or the other players somehow f--ked it up and I was the only one left to clean up.  Because if my peers were anywhere near halfway competent in knowing game controls, they'd be in faster, better ships killing everything before I got anywhere useful.

 

Let me also make this perfectly clear:  I did not sit back and try to stand off with MinneSLOWta.  For PVE I play all my Battleships super aggressively.  Even my Shikashima, Yamato, Musashi, Iowa, Missouri, Montana are in Secondary Spec.  My Iowa, Missouri, and Montana have even SBM2 in Slot 6 for faster secondaries instead of MBM3 or APRM2 in that slot.  I pushed relentlessly to the red bots to get closer and have more accurate attacks, possibly getting broadside attacks in a brawl for high damage spikes.  But it got frustrating when the ship is just too slow and those Pommerns, FDGs, even d*mn 27kt Musashi are racing past me and killing everything.

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