2,137 [UBC] Chain_shot Members 2,280 posts Report post #1 Posted December 7, 2020 The man stretches himself in all sorts of contortions. The comments are holding his feet to the fire though. 1 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,639 [REVY] Sventex Members 8,633 posts 6,121 battles Report post #2 Posted December 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chain_shot said: The man stretches himself in all sorts of contortions. The comments are holding his feet to the fire though. Well he wouldn't want to be anti-business after all. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,429 [SALVO] Dr_Venture Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 6,543 posts 7,400 battles Report post #3 Posted December 7, 2020 The best comment I saw "How's that Russian leather taste?" He's not doing himself ANY favors right now. It's clear they are rigged, the masses are angry, and he rolls in defending wargaming. 3 1 4 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,137 [UBC] Chain_shot Members 2,280 posts Report post #4 Posted December 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Dr_Venture said: The best comment I saw "How's that Russian leather taste?" He's not doing himself ANY favors right now. It's clear they are rigged, the masses are angry, and he rolls in defending wargaming. Or he was given his marching orders by the Committee. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,186 [ARR0W] Pugilistic Members 5,136 posts 29,847 battles Report post #5 Posted December 7, 2020 I disagree with Zoup that this is some kind of error. It is the same way the event has worked since its inception, with the change a couple years ago that there are no duplicate drops. There is apparently a gate drop at each level, and beyond that the ships have decreasing probability with increasing tier or belonging to the "rare" group. This has been clear to any interested observer since 2016. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,639 [REVY] Sventex Members 8,633 posts 6,121 battles Report post #6 Posted December 7, 2020 Just now, Pugilistic said: This has been clear to any interested observer since 2016. And if you just started the game, this information is nowhere to be found on the santa crate news page itself. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,518 Wombatmetal Members 4,512 posts 3,255 battles Report post #7 Posted December 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Pugilistic said: I disagree with Zoup that this is some kind of error. It is the same way the event has worked since its inception, with the change a couple years ago that there are no duplicate drops. There is apparently a gate drop at each level, and beyond that the ships have decreasing probability with increasing tier or belonging to the "rare" group. This has been clear to any interested observer since 2016. I agree. They eliminated duplicate drops, otherwise it's the same as it has been since 2016. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,323 [KWF] warheart1992 Members 6,767 posts 7,444 battles Report post #8 Posted December 7, 2020 Quote "Not coming out to defend them" Exact previous sentence: Quote "An honest mistake, in some kind of algorithm or some line of coding...." while there's actual proof on the whole case. Quote "You know, mistakes do happen" While talking about the case of people spending hundreds of dollars on containers..... Man, Zoup for the past 2 years has gone downhill, and he was actually decent at the start . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,186 [ARR0W] Pugilistic Members 5,136 posts 29,847 battles Report post #9 Posted December 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, Sventex said: And if you just started the game, this information is nowhere to be found on the santa crate news page itself. That's fair. This should have been in the news section as in past years. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,434 [TOOF] WarStore Banned 1,424 posts 11,497 battles Report post #10 Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) Damn, there is a guy in the comment section saying he got the Makarov, didn't want the ship, sold it for credits, then got another Makarov. I know it is not smart to sell these premium ships, as they become supercontainers, but that was...brutal Edited December 7, 2020 by WarStore 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,790 [PVE] Slimeball91 Members 8,420 posts Report post #11 Posted December 7, 2020 18 minutes ago, Pugilistic said: There is apparently a gate drop at each level, and beyond that the ships have decreasing probability with increasing tier or belonging to the "rare" group. This has been clear to any interested observer since 2016. I don't know how it has been advertised in the past, that doesn't matter in regards to this year. This year WG misrepresented what the majority of players can actually get when they say you can get a chance of 1 of 107 ships. That is wrong, and actually illegal in most places. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,836 RedSeaBear Members 5,443 posts 19,875 battles Report post #12 Posted December 7, 2020 Wait Zoup still posts WoWs videos? I hadn't noticed. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
187 [WOLFA] hammer_1 Members 237 posts Report post #13 Posted December 7, 2020 Does he ever get to a conclusion? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
137 [DJL] Athrun2021 Members 243 posts 7,459 battles Report post #14 Posted December 7, 2020 1 minute ago, hammer_1 said: Does he ever get to a conclusion? No but alot of people got 1 about him lol that is one brown nose. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,582 [HINON] tcbaker777 [HINON] Members 9,642 posts 15,633 battles Report post #15 Posted December 7, 2020 the fact that people can defend WG when theres overwhelming evidence against them, shows me that some people truly are shills for this criminal of a company 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
187 [WOLFA] hammer_1 Members 237 posts Report post #16 Posted December 7, 2020 50 minutes ago, Chain_shot said: The man stretches himself in all sorts of contortions. The comments are holding his feet to the fire though. I don't know why if you get a ship crate of a ship you already have WG doesn't just give you equivalent value ship instead of totally random, OR give you the doubloons. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,137 [UBC] Chain_shot Members 2,280 posts Report post #17 Posted December 7, 2020 1 minute ago, hammer_1 said: I don't know why if you get a ship crate of a ship you already have WG doesn't just give you equivalent value ship instead of totally random, OR give you the doubloons. I wonder the same thing myself. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,639 [REVY] Sventex Members 8,633 posts 6,121 battles Report post #18 Posted December 7, 2020 26 minutes ago, warheart1992 said: Man, Zoup for the past 2 years has gone downhill, and he was actually decent at the start I had to unfollow him on Twitter because he wouldn't shut up about minor nitpicks of California law. He asks you to follow him for Warships content, instead you get petty political bickering. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
187 [WOLFA] hammer_1 Members 237 posts Report post #19 Posted December 7, 2020 It IS hard to come to a conclusion if you already have every Premium ship, what's the point? If i could have bought Jean Bart or Mushashi I would have, would have been cheaper. I bought $110 worth of crates till I got the JB and quit. Of course I got a lot of flags and my premium time has boosted to over a year in the future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,323 [KWF] warheart1992 Members 6,767 posts 7,444 battles Report post #20 Posted December 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Sventex said: I had to unfollow him on Twitter because he wouldn't shut up about minor nitpicks of California law. He asks you to follow him for Warships content, instead you get petty political bickering. Wasn't aware of that since I prefer to stay as far away from Twitter as possible, though I can easily believe what you describe. Truth be told I fail to grasp Zoups motives behind being so defensive of WG as a whole. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,126 [SAINT] Jolly_Rodgered [SAINT] Members 1,881 posts 21,610 battles Report post #21 Posted December 7, 2020 At around the 7:55 mark Zoup states "these aren't necessarily loot crates". I still like his videos for the most part but truthfully he seemed to be scrambling a bit to come to War Gaming's defense. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,940 [PVE] Taylor3006 [PVE] Members 11,187 posts 28,930 battles Report post #22 Posted December 7, 2020 18 minutes ago, RedSeaBear said: Wait Zoup still posts WoWs videos? I hadn't noticed. Neither have I. Haven't found him particularly relevant since he "advised" the players who listened to him, to buy all the coal ships in his "Which Coal Ship to Buy" video a few years back. Seemed rather a stupid point to make when players were trying to decide on where to spend their resources. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,491 [PISD] Karstodes Members 2,285 posts 7,316 battles Report post #23 Posted December 7, 2020 How dare he do not dig the salt mine like Flamu! 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,186 [ARR0W] Pugilistic Members 5,136 posts 29,847 battles Report post #24 Posted December 7, 2020 38 minutes ago, Slimeball91 said: I don't know how it has been advertised in the past, that doesn't matter in regards to this year. This year WG misrepresented what the majority of players can actually get when they say you can get a chance of 1 of 107 ships. That is wrong, and actually illegal in most places. Go for it. Show them Mom's picture from the stand. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,186 [ARR0W] Pugilistic Members 5,136 posts 29,847 battles Report post #25 Posted December 7, 2020 53 minutes ago, WarStore said: Damn, there is a guy in the comment section saying the got the Makarov, didn't want the ship, sold it for credits, then got another Makarov. I know it is not smart to sell these premium ships, as they become supercontainers, but that was...brutal Fleet Management 101 fail. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
