WOW Question: Can a Plane be Shot Down with Big Guns?

[GEOCHUCKGEO]

I've noticed my shells passing through planes in flight attacking other ships (at least it looks like they do from my angle). Can a plane be shot down that way?  So far, no recorded hits. Is game set up for this to occur?  Or can only AA kill aircraft? Thanks.

[1Sherman]

No, it can't.

[Slimeball91]

I don't know that is a serious question but I'll answer it anyway.  No, planes have no hit box for shells, or when the might hit your ship when shot down (they won't do damage to your ship).  Planes can only be damaged by AA or fighters.

[Subs_Huff_Copium]

You are kidding right?  

 

Are you really one of those guys who is shooting the sky trying to knock planes out of the sky?

[brewakeg]

36 minutes ago, GEOCHUCKGEO said:

I've noticed my shells passing through planes in flight attacking other ships (at least it looks like they do from my angle). Can a plane be shot down that way?  So far, no recorded hits. Is game set up for this to occur?  Or can only AA kill aircraft? Thanks.

Still waiting (in vain I'm sure) for WOW to allow '44-45 Allied ships to load Proximity Fuse shells in the main guns, and shred incoming red planes!

[neptunes_wrath]

27 minutes ago, Dr_Drunk_AKA said:

You are kidding right?  

 

Are you really one of those guys who is shooting the sky trying to knock planes out of the sky?

 

 

[black_hull4]

49 minutes ago, GEOCHUCKGEO said:

Can a plane be shot down that way? 

37 minutes ago, Dr_Drunk_AKA said:

Are you really one of those guys who is shooting the sky trying to knock planes out of the sky?

I have only seen it done TWICE. One shown in a video of Rear Admiral Sir Jingles the Mighty. The other was when a player posted a detailed report screen warning him for unsporting conduct. He had shot down an allied aircraft. But those were also several patches ago.

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[Royeaux]

1 hour ago, GEOCHUCKGEO said:

I've noticed my shells passing through planes in flight attacking other ships (at least it looks like they do from my angle). Can a plane be shot down that way?  So far, no recorded hits. Is game set up for this to occur?  Or can only AA kill aircraft? Thanks.

No, planes aren't physical objects.  You can stick a CV in front of a mountain and launch planes straight through the landmass.

[Charon2018]

58 minutes ago, brewakeg said:

Still waiting (in vain I'm sure) for WOW to allow '44-45 Allied ships to load Proximity Fuse shells in the main guns, and shred incoming red planes!

About the same odds as Yamato and Musashi allowed beehive shells...

[Subs_Huff_Copium]

58 minutes ago, neptunes_wrath said:

 

 

Both your avatar and that meme made me legit laugh out loud.

[IfYouSeeKhaos]

2 hours ago, Dr_Drunk_AKA said:

You are kidding right?  

 

Are you really one of those guys who is shooting the sky trying to knock planes out of the sky?

Are you really 1 of those guys that just reads a thread title & comments w/out reading the text?

[Subs_Huff_Copium]

1 minute ago, IfYouSeeKhaos said:

Are you really 1 of those guys that just reads a thread title & comments w/out reading the text?

Are you trying to defend someone with 5500 games who doesn't know how AA works?  Seriously?  

[IfYouSeeKhaos]

2 hours ago, GEOCHUCKGEO said:

I've noticed my shells passing through planes in flight attacking other ships (at least it looks like they do from my angle). Can a plane be shot down that way?  So far, no recorded hits. Is game set up for this to occur?  Or can only AA kill aircraft? Thanks.

Some big guns are dual purpose for AA & can shoot down planes...but not any player controlled ones...they are all AI controlled.

[IfYouSeeKhaos]

20 minutes ago, Dr_Drunk_AKA said:

Are you trying to defend someone with 5500 games who doesn't know how AA works?  Seriously?  

Are you trying to pretend like the amount of games somebody has is relevant to a rebork mechanic?

There is actually zero data about over 99% of the mechanics in game...OP has less than 100 posts & his OP was about a mechanic that has only been in the game since the rebork.

Until earlier this year over 90% of the forum didn't even realize AA has always been AI controlled...they thought they were doing something more by locking on a target.

Besides...until this post 1 didn't defend the OP in any way at all...just pointed out your inability to get all the facts before posting.

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[Princess_Daystar]

29 minutes ago, IfYouSeeKhaos said:

Are you trying to pretend like the amount of games somebody has is relevant to a rebork mechanic?

There is actually zero data about over 99% of the mechanics in game...OP has less than 100 posts & his OP was about a mechanic that has only been in the game since the rebork.

Until earlier this year over 90% of the forum didn't even realize AA has always been AI controlled...they thought they were doing something more by locking on a target.

Besides...until this post 1 didn't defend the OP in any way at all...just pointed out your inability to get all the facts before posting.

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This game imo is far worse at explaining anything than World of Tanks. For the first 2k battles i had no clue what damage potential i was missing out on secondaries, i saw the term "Secondary Build" over and over when i would take my Bismarck out but had no clue what it meant. I didnt have to do as much research into the mechanics for GW2 as i did for this game, just absurd the amount of information they actually dont give the player.

[Wolfswetpaws]

3 hours ago, GEOCHUCKGEO said:

I've noticed my shells passing through planes in flight attacking other ships (at least it looks like they do from my angle). Can a plane be shot down that way?  So far, no recorded hits. Is game set up for this to occur?  Or can only AA kill aircraft? Thanks.

In the real world?  It is theoretically possible.
Japanese "Beehive" projectiles were intended for anti-aircraft action, for example.
I'm not sure how well they worked in practice, or if the aiming systems were up to the demands.
So, in the real world, if enough ships are sending projectiles in the air and in the correct trajectory, there is a chance to hit an aircraft.

In World of Warships?  
I play CV's frequently.  And I've yet to see it happen to my aircraft.
I have taken "friendly fire" from AA, before a game patch changed the AA mechanics, though.

Personally, I'm not opposed to main-battery projectiles hitting planes.   Just need properly model the relevant physical phenomena in game.

Edited to add:  If friendly projectiles hit my planes, I expect the "Friendly Fire / Team-kill" game mechanics to be invoked, though.  

[Subs_Huff_Copium]

45 minutes ago, IfYouSeeKhaos said:

Are you trying to pretend like the amount of games somebody has is relevant to a rebork mechanic?

There is actually zero data about over 99% of the mechanics in game...OP has less than 100 posts & his OP was about a mechanic that has only been in the game since the rebork.

Until earlier this year over 90% of the forum didn't even realize AA has always been AI controlled...they thought they were doing something more by locking on a target.

Besides...until this post 1 didn't defend the OP in any way at all...just pointed out your inability to get all the facts before posting.

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There's no facts here other than the OP doesn't understand how the game works and you getting butthurt that someone called him on it.  

 

You PVE guys need to sit down and have a beer and stop being so uptight.

[IfYouSeeKhaos]

55 minutes ago, Dr_Drunk_AKA said:

There's no facts here other than the OP doesn't understand how the game works and you getting butthurt that someone called him on it.  

 

You PVE guys need to sit down and have a beer and stop being so uptight.

LOL... you're hilarious :-)

The only fact is that OP clarified he has never tried to shoot at planes w/his main battery guns in the text of his OP & you accused him of it based on your misinterpretation of his thread title.

Why would anybody be butthurt over your inability to get all the facts before sticking your head up your butt before replying to a thread but yourself?

I got a laugh out of it (as did at least 1 other person that responded w/a funny notification).

BTW...over 75% of my games are in random...I only farmed co-op for missions...as if game mode has anything to do w/your shortcomings in the thread.

[Subs_Huff_Copium]

8 minutes ago, IfYouSeeKhaos said:

LOL... you're hilarious :-)

The only fact is that OP clarified he has never tried to shoot at planes w/his main battery guns in the text of his OP & you accused him of it based on your misinterpretation of his thread title.

Why would anybody be butthurt over your inability to get all the facts before sticking your head up your butt before replying to a thread but yourself?

I got a laugh out of it (as did at least 1 other person that responded w/a funny notification).

BTW...over 75% of my games are in random...I only farmed co-op for missions...as if game mode has anything to do w/your shortcomings in the thread.

Speaking of reading comprehension:

 

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I've noticed my shells passing through planes in flight attacking other ships

Yep.  You can't read.  FeelsBadMan.  Your first grade teacher is laughing at you now.

 

Also, your game mode means nothing.  You're still irrelevant.  Good on you.

[Whitebuster]

4 hours ago, Dr_Drunk_AKA said:

You are kidding right?  

 

Are you really one of those guys who is shooting the sky trying to knock planes out of the sky?

It's a legitimate question. I used to do that in my first few games back in closed beta.

[Subs_Huff_Copium]

Just now, Whitebuster said:

It's a legitimate question. I used to do that in my first few games back in closed beta.

Hi.  2020, CV rework an 5500 games on account called.  This is not about being a n00b.

[IfYouSeeKhaos]

22 minutes ago, Dr_Drunk_AKA said:

Speaking of reading comprehension:

 

Yep.  You can't read.  FeelsBadMan.  Your first grade teacher is laughing at you now.

Wow... really?

You interpreted that:

5 hours ago, GEOCHUCKGEO said:

I've noticed my shells passing through planes in flight attacking other ships

...to mean OP was talking about intentionally attempting to shoot at planes instead of OP being the 1 shooting at other ships?

Why would he need to clarify the planes were attacking other ships as opposed to possibly just flying by or even attacking him?

[Subs_Huff_Copium]

11 minutes ago, IfYouSeeKhaos said:

Wow... really?

You interpreted that:

...to mean OP was talking about intentionally attempting to shoot at planes instead of OP being the 1 shooting at other ships?

Why would he need to clarify the planes were attacking other ships as opposed to possibly just flying by or even attacking him?

You really can't see that he was asking why the shells he's fired at them don't hit?

 

Seriously man, you need to think before you post and stop white knighting an trolling.

[Royeaux]

1 hour ago, Wolfswetpaws said:

In the real world?  It is theoretically possible.
Japanese "Beehive" projectiles were intended for anti-aircraft action, for example.
I'm not sure how well they worked in practice, or if the aiming systems were up to the demands.
So, in the real world, if enough ships are sending projectiles in the air and in the correct trajectory, there is a chance to hit an aircraft.

I've seen US plotting charts for their 16" guns to target aircraft.  Shame I didn't think to save the image.

[iDuckman]

7 hours ago, GEOCHUCKGEO said:

I've noticed my shells passing through planes in flight attacking other ships (at least it looks like they do from my angle). Can a plane be shot down that way?  So far, no recorded hits. Is game set up for this to occur?  Or can only AA kill aircraft? Thanks.

Short answer:  No, only AA.

Long-winded answer: Maybe. Lighter main guns like 5" could be used in a dual-purpose role, i.e. surface/AA.  These DP guns in secondary batteries are rolled into the AA rating of the ship.  I believe that the equivalent main battery guns (e.g. those on Atlanta, designed as an AA cruiser) are also rolled into AA but can't recall a statement to that effect.

In game, the main shell fire that you see is anti-ship.  AA fire is abstracted; you won't see actual AA fire, just the general "spray at the heavens" tracer fire.

Edit:  Forgot:  https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Anti-Aircraft_Fire

 

BTW, a few truly heavy guns like the auto-loading 8" turrets on Des Moines/Salem *were* rated by the Navy as dual-purpose guns.  I.e. they supposedly could contribute to AA fire.  There is no record of them ever being used this way so they aren't in WoWS.  Nothing larger, either.