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So

I know there is a ton of stuff going around about crates and shortlists etc.  Some of us who just do this stuff to have fun and don’t break everything down to the finest if fine details can get confused about all the hubbub.

Now I understand the issues and peoples angst but this is a game… I am betting ( no pun intended ) that if they go into a casino they don’t focus on the particular odds at every table. No.  They grab a drink and HAVE FUN!!

That said here is what I know about my experience so far.

I have a bunch of great and some MEH ships I have gotten from all sorts of crates over the past couple of years.  Last Christmas I got a BUNCH of ships.. some good some Port queens.

This is how it went for me. This is just for Data purposes not to prove anything.

( got this list of ships  from that post earlier….)

Big Gift Shortlist

  • Tier 6 Soviet cruiser Makarov (common)  DO NOT HAVE IT
  • Tier 7 US battleship California  DO NOT HAVE IT
  • Tier 8 EU destroyer Orkan    DO NOT HAVE IT  IT

Mega Shortlist

  • Tier 6 Italian cruiser Duca D'aosta (common)  GOT IT LAST YEAR
  • Tier 7 Japanese destroyer Yuudachi (common)  GOT IT TODAY
  • Tier 8 British battleship Vanguard  GOT IT TODAY
  • Tier 8 Soviet cruiser Ochakov  DO NOT HAVE IT

SO I got 40 Megas this morning and I got a bunch of great stuff and 7 ships. 2 of them you see above.

The ships I got today.

V MARBLEHEAD L   ( SC )   I had regular Marblehead so MAJOR MEH!

 VI E. LOEWNHARDT  (Don’t play CVs unless missions )

VIII VANGUARD

VI   T-61      SC

V   KAMIKAZE  SC

VIII  Z- 35  SC

VII  YUDACHI

Not sure what this shows…..  One thing I do know is the people saying you have to have ALL the Shortlist ships before you get anything good are 100% WRONG!

I got a couple of great ships and as you can see the ship Flamu got first I still haven’t seen.

Love some of his how 2 vids but this isn’t holding water.

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7 minutes ago, Col_Nasty said:

The ships I got today.

V MARBLEHEAD L   ( SC )   I had regular Marblehead so MAJOR MEH!

 VI E. LOEWNHARDT  (Don’t play CVs unless missions )

VIII VANGUARD

VI   T-61      SC

V   KAMIKAZE  SC

VIII  Z- 35  SC

VII  YUDACHI

Not sure what this shows…..  One thing I do know is the people saying you have to have ALL the Shortlist ships before you get anything good are 100% WRONG!

I got a couple of great ships and as you can see the ship Flamu got first I still haven’t seen.

Love some of his how 2 vids but this isn’t holding water.

from what ive heard, if you pull one from the short list that you already have, it becomes a super container, you say you got Duca last year, so you pulled Duca twice in reality for Marble and Loewn, got Vanguard, which is one of the short listed ships, and pulled either it or Duca again but they became T-61, Kami, and Z-35 and then you pulled Poi-bote, you dont need all of them to start getting other ships not on the short list, just one, which you did, the Duca, if you didnt you were basically 100% going to get one of the shortlisted ships

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18 minutes ago, Col_Nasty said:

Not sure what this shows…..  One thing I do know is the people saying you have to have ALL the Shortlist ships before you get anything good are 100% WRONG!

I got a couple of great ships and as you can see the ship Flamu got first I still haven’t seen.

Love some of his how 2 vids but this isn’t holding water.

So a bit of a misunderstanding, you don't need them ALL, but you need at least one of the common drops, as you show yourself, you already had the MOST common Mega ship, Duca, and you got the 2nd one and one of the slightly more rare short list ships as well, I'm willing to bet your first ship was the Yuudachi?  (You listed it twice btw, once with misspelling)

The Big Gift ships (Makarov, etc) don't matter in your post because you bought Mega containers, not Big ones.    

From what I'm seeing here, and granted I don't see the order you got them, you actually proved the issue to be correct, if you got either of those short list ships first, which is the issue.    Also willing to bet every non-short list ship was actually a supercontainer?   Which further proves that the gift containers don't actually drop any of the long list of ships, just the short list of ships, and getting duplicates of THOSE give you a super.   

To put it more simply, if you buy Big Gift, you will always get Makarov before you get anything else, if you buy Mega, you will always get Duca/Yuudaci (possibly both) before you get anything else.

 

Edit:  I see you listed the supercontainer ships with "SC", I missed that before...and with the exception of the E.LOEW (which might be an oversight since you decided to comment you don't play CVs), they were ALL SC ships, further proving the point.

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11 minutes ago, Zenn3k said:

So a bit of a misunderstanding, you don't need them ALL, but you need at least one of the common drops, as you show yourself, you already had the MOST common Mega ship, Duca, and you got the 2nd one and one of the slightly more rare short list ships as well, I'm willing to bet your first ship was the Yuudachi?  (You listed it twice btw, once with misspelling)

The Big Gift ships (Makarov, etc) don't matter in your post because you bought Mega containers, not Big ones.    

From what I'm seeing here, and granted I don't see the order you got them, you actually proved the issue to be correct, if you got either of those short list ships first, which is the issue.    Also willing to bet every non-short list ship was actually a supercontainer?   Which further proves that the gift containers don't actually drop any of the long list of ships, just the short list of ships, and getting duplicates of THOSE give you a super.

To put it more simply, if you buy Big Gift, you will always get Makarov before you get anything else, if you buy Mega, you will always get Duca/Yuudaci (possibly both) before you get anything else.

The ships are listed in the order and fashion that I got them.

The ship ( Yuudachi)  was listed twice because , if you look , I made a note next to each ship on the list itself as to whether I had it or not . As you will see I got it last.. so there's that as well.

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4 minutes ago, Col_Nasty said:

The ships are listed in the order and fashion that I got them.

The ship ( Yuudachi)  was listed twice because , if you look , I made a note next to each ship on the list itself as to whether I had it or not .

Was the E.LOEW also a SC?  I'm sorta assuming you just didn't list it cause you wanted to make a comment about not playing CV?

Basically what happened was you actually opened Duca first, but reroll SC to Marblehead, then again (assuming E.LOEW was SC), then a short list ship in Vanguard, then either Duca or Vanguard 3 more times for a reroll, then finally Yuudachi.     I'd bet that you actually rolled Duca 5 times.

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8 minutes ago, Col_Nasty said:

The ships are listed in the order and fashion that I got them.

The ship ( Yuudachi)  was listed twice because , if you look , I made a note next to each ship on the list itself as to whether I had it or not . As you will see I got it last.. so there's that as well.

Vanguard isn’t as bad as many say; Mouse disagrees with me, but I call it my fast Warspite’ and treat it as such.

After Ochakov this morning, the only two I don’t have are Orkan and Yudachi.

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42 minutes ago, Col_Nasty said:

Not sure what this shows…..  One thing I do know is the people saying you have to have ALL the Shortlist ships before you get anything good are 100% WRONG!

I got a couple of great ships and as you can see the ship Flamu got first I still haven’t seen.

Love some of his how 2 vids but this isn’t holding water.


Yeah, anyone saying that you need all the shortlist before you get the others simply misunderstood the actual theory in the reddit post.

Likewise the Makarov, California, Orkan short list is irrelevant to you as you only purchased Mega containers, not big ones.

As it is, by the theory, you already had 1 of the short list, so it was entirely possible for you to "roll" the Duca again, twice, in which case you (I imagine) got a super container with those 2 ships in.
That out of all the possibilities you got 2 out of the 4 short list does lend credence to them being higher priority.

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