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Why Makarov is the most historically accurate ship for a shortlist (Shippost)

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Now, I also drew a Makarov, but I'm kinda content getting the ship since I find it's history interesting. What is this you may ask? Well, it's the way Makarov, or to be more precise Nurnberg ended up in the Soviet Union. Pay attention and you might find how a historical event is a cautionary tale that applies even now in our pixel game. Not only that, but this makes Makarov the best possible choice for a ship reward of the type.

So, on May 27 1945 Prinz Eugen along with Nurnberg and escorted by Devonshire and Dido reached Wilhelmshaven. Both ships would remain there until their fate would be decided by the Potsdam Conference. To quote https://hamptonroadsnavalmuseum.blogspot.com/2019/01/the-navys-most-unwanted-ship-and.html

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Among the victorious allies, who were vying for the spoils scattered among the ruins of the Third Reich and competing to shape the postwar destiny of the devastated nation, the Soviet naval representatives to the Potsdam Conference that summer were most interested in gaining control of the cruiser, which was officially surrendered to the British on May 22, 1945.  Although American representatives were not terribly interested in taking it in, Prinz Eugen was the most prominent vessel left in the German naval arsenal, it possessed thoroughly modern engineering and instrumentation, and it was still in reasonably good condition, so it behooved American officers like Captain Arthur H. Graubart to deny them the prize. 

Now you may think that the fate of Prinz Eugen and Nurnberg was decided by lengthy negotiations or something of the sort. But actually:

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On October 19, the members of the Tripartite Naval Commission divided the Kreigsmarine's remaining surface vessels into three lists.  Captain Graubart proposed writing each list onto a note card, placing them in his hat, and allowing the Soviets to draw first.  Surprisingly, the Soviet representative agreed.  While Graubart held his upturned hat above his head, a Soviet admiral drew out a card, but it did not contain Prinz Eugen.  Instead, the Soviets had drawn the older light cruiser Nurnberg, which they renamed Admiral Makarov and placed in commission as the flagship of the Soviet 8th Fleet.    

Yup, you read it right. They drew lots out of a hat for warships. Now that's all a fun and interesting wartime trivia. But here's the nice comparison.

Place yourself as the Soviet representative. You want Prinz Eugen for your country. You could say you want one of the super rare lootbox drops.

You are actually allowed to do so, but only if you can draw the proper lot out of another Admiral's hat. Same as the lootboxes, though the Soviets had a 33% chance of getting Prinz Eugen so that was far more generous at the time.

Instead you pick the wrong lot and end up with the unwanted, old vessel that doesn't offer anything interesting. Same as you actually getting a ship from the boxes but ends up being Makarov. 

Do you see it? WG has managed 100% player immersion with this move. Now you can feel the exact same way that a Soviet Admiral had when he drew the wrong lot, saw Prinz Eugen ending up on the United States and he was stuck instead with Nurnberg. I don't think it gets more historically accurate than that.

But hey, at least you aren't the British that probably ended up with that crappy a lot that I can't find what ships they got.

And this is why every time I think of Makarov I smile. Hope this brings some smiles on an otherwise crappy incident.

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Given the horrifying treatment Occidental ships were given by the Soviet Union, I'm kind of glad they didn't ruin Prinz Eugen.

Still, funny how the Russians get all sorts of Occidental ships in the game, but USS Prinz Eugen is nowhere to be seen.

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If WG has a sense of humor they would make the crates look like upturned Admiral hats next year.

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6 minutes ago, Sventex said:

Given the horrifying treatment Occidental ships were given by the Soviet Union, I'm kind of glad they didn't ruin Prinz Eugen.

Still, funny how the Russians get all sorts of Occidental ships in the game, but USS Prinz Eugen is nowhere to be seen.

If I remember correctly when Murmansk was transferred back to the US it was found to be in a complete state of disrepair and filled with mice. Weird though how other Soviet Armed Forces branches appreciated alot Western military equipment. P-39 Airacobra and Kingcobra spring to mind, both well liked.

As for Prinz Eugen, a tier VII IX-300 version with the A turret missing would indeed be a very nice addition.

5 minutes ago, ClassicLib said:

If WG has a sense of humor they would make the crates look like upturned Admiral hats next year.

I know they just went with the least popular ships, but I wanna believe a factor in adding Makarov was inspired as a joke by the story. :Smile_hiding:

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1 minute ago, warheart1992 said:

I know they just went with the least popular ships, but I wanna believe a factor in adding Makarov was inspired as a joke by the story. :Smile_hiding:

Much like I might think they did it because not only was it a low tier, inexpensive ship, they saw some people on the forums express the desire to have it .

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2 hours ago, ClassicLib said:

If WG has a sense of humor they would make the crates look like upturned Admiral hats next year.

That's an amusing idea, dude, though it might be better for the WG anniversary containers, if there are any.  The idea seems a bit off for Christmas, though I do get the subtle joke you're trying to make.

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