1,658 [46856] Chain_shot Members 1,873 posts Report post #1 Posted December 3, 2020 Is Neustrashimy one of best in tier for concealment? That's what the current add for it says (see below.) This means it would to have a concealment range compatible with Shimikaze, gearing or even the pan Asian DD. Looking at its base concealment in port without mods which is 7.1, I just don't see it being in the 5.5-5.7 kms range when fully equipped. Does it get that low? I am asking players who have one currently to inform me. If it does not get that low then is WG being creative with the truth here? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,826 [A-I-M] MannyD_of_The_Sea Members 3,586 posts 14,476 battles Report post #2 Posted December 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Chain_shot said: Is Neustrashimy one of best in tier for concealment? It’s gotta be...it’s been months since I’ve seen one! 3 3 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,663 [KWF] warheart1992 Members 5,239 posts 6,659 battles Report post #3 Posted December 3, 2020 Max concealment on my own is 5.6km. Problem is that you are often too clumsy to use these small but important stealth advantages. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,658 [46856] Chain_shot Members 1,873 posts Report post #4 Posted December 3, 2020 Just now, MannyD_of_The_Sea said: It’s gotta be...it’s been months since I’ve seen one! *** Drum roll*** Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
489 [NSEW] LowSpeed_US Members 2,151 posts 11,516 battles Report post #5 Posted December 3, 2020 Well, let's see. Concealment Module gives you -10%, Captain skills would give you another -10%. 7.1 - 20% = 5.68 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
489 [NSEW] LowSpeed_US Members 2,151 posts 11,516 battles Report post #6 Posted December 3, 2020 1 minute ago, MannyD_of_The_Sea said: It’s gotta be...it’s been months since I’ve seen one! Saw two, TWO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,658 [46856] Chain_shot Members 1,873 posts Report post #7 Posted December 3, 2020 1 minute ago, warheart1992 said: Max concealment on my own is 5.6km. Problem is that you are often too clumsy to use these small but important stealth advantages. Thx. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,663 [KWF] warheart1992 Members 5,239 posts 6,659 battles Report post #8 Posted December 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, MannyD_of_The_Sea said: It’s gotta be...it’s been months since I’ve seen one! I'm the only Neustrashimy I have seen in close to a year, so touché . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,766 [GGWP] DuckyShot Members 7,211 posts 16,745 battles Report post #9 Posted December 3, 2020 1 minute ago, LowSpeed_US said: Well, let's see. Concealment Module gives you -10%, Captain skills would give you another -10%. 7.1 - 20% = 5.68 3% for the camo. And they don't add 7.1 - 10% = 6.39 6.39 - 10% = 5.75 5.75 - 3% = 5.58 rounded up 5.6 in the client Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
489 [NSEW] LowSpeed_US Members 2,151 posts 11,516 battles Report post #10 Posted December 3, 2020 1 minute ago, DuckyShot said: 3% for the camo. Dang it! How could I forget that one... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,029 [HINON] RipNuN2 Members 13,826 posts Report post #11 Posted December 3, 2020 25 minutes ago, Chain_shot said: Is Neustrashimy one of best in tier for concealment? This means it would to have a concealment range compatible with Shimikaze, gearing or even the pan Asian DD. Psst, it's a T9 not a T10. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
208 [RBMK2] MizzenMast Members 349 posts 7,062 battles Report post #12 Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) I rarely bring mine out but nearly always get comments when I do that range from "what is that" to "Holy S**t, I havent seen one of those in months". TBH, it ticks me off seeing it for sale for coal, why did I waste my steel when I could have waited a year & spent coal on it. Edited December 3, 2020 by MizzenMast 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
179 Airglide2 Members 1,106 posts 12,142 battles Report post #13 Posted December 3, 2020 49 minutes ago, warheart1992 said: Max concealment on my own is 5.6km. Problem is that you are often too clumsy to use these small but important stealth advantages. Bingo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,098 [WOLFG] Skpstr Members 31,352 posts 9,649 battles Report post #14 Posted December 3, 2020 57 minutes ago, Chain_shot said: Is Neustrashimy one of best in tier for concealment? That's what the current add for it says (see below.) This means it would to have a concealment range compatible with Shimikaze, gearing or even the pan Asian DD. Looking at its base concealment in port without mods which is 7.1, I just don't see it being in the 5.5-5.7 kms range when fully equipped. Does it get that low? I am asking players who have one currently to inform me. If it does not get that low then is WG being creative with the truth here? Yes, if you have CE and use the concealment upgrade in Slot 5. 7.1-20%=5.5 or 5.6, depending on how it's rounded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
203 [MHG] OnociTsalk Members 327 posts 20,161 battles Report post #15 Posted December 3, 2020 34 minutes ago, MizzenMast said: I rarely bring mine out but nearly always get comments when I do that range from "what is that" to "Holy S**t, I havent seen one of those in months". TBH, it ticks me off seeing it for sale for coal, why did I waste my steel when I could have waited a year & spent coal on it. It is the opposite for me. I'd gladly play the 21k steel it costed instead of the current 296k coal asking price. I knew there would be a mark-up, but did not expect a 40% increase from the direct conversion. If only WG agrees to take my steel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
872 [WOLFB] Lonewolfpj Members 3,166 posts 7,558 battles Report post #16 Posted December 3, 2020 36 minutes ago, MizzenMast said: I rarely bring mine out but nearly always get comments when I do that range from "what is that" to "Holy S**t, I havent seen one of those in months". TBH, it ticks me off seeing it for sale for coal, why did I waste my steel when I could have waited a year & spent coal on it. Its WG nothing is ever exclusive. At some point I am sure we will see more steel ships switch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,029 [HINON] RipNuN2 Members 13,826 posts Report post #17 Posted December 3, 2020 1 minute ago, OnociTsalk said: It is the opposite for me. I'd gladly play the 21k steel it costed instead of the current 296k coal asking price. I knew there would be a mark-up, but did not expect a 40% increase from the direct conversion. If only WG agrees to take my steel But coal cannot be converted into steel while steel can be converted into coal which makes coal a more flexible resource. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
203 [MHG] OnociTsalk Members 327 posts 20,161 battles Report post #18 Posted December 3, 2020 Just now, RipNuN2 said: But coal cannot be converted into steel while steel can be converted into coal which makes coal a more flexible resource. I can see where you are coming from, but given that we have multiple coal ships leaving soon (GA, Thunderer), I'm really hard pressed on that front. Steel I have some to spare considering there is no urgency here on account of ship removal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,152 [BONKS] Pay_Your_Torpedo_Tax Members 957 posts 3,794 battles Report post #19 Posted December 3, 2020 Yes. She's a very good stealthy DD. With guns that people underestimate to their own mistakes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
322 [DOG] zubalkabir Members 1,220 posts 12,659 battles Report post #20 Posted December 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Chain_shot said: Is Neustrashimy one of best in tier for concealment? That's what the current add for it says (see below.) This means it would to have a concealment range compatible with Shimikaze, gearing or even the pan Asian DD. Looking at its base concealment in port without mods which is 7.1, I just don't see it being in the 5.5-5.7 kms range when fully equipped. Does it get that low? I am asking players who have one currently to inform me. If it does not get that low then is WG being creative with the truth here? With everything it can get down to 5.578 km. About the same as a Shima, I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10,391 [INTEL] Taichunger Members 13,459 posts 37,734 battles Report post #21 Posted December 3, 2020 It's a good boat, but the guns can be frustrating. The heal makes her very useful, since you have health to trade in gunning down other DDs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,076 [PVE] IfYouSeeKhaos Members 7,284 posts 23,174 battles Report post #22 Posted December 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Skpstr said: Yes, if you have CE and use the concealment upgrade in Slot 5. 7.1-20%=5.5 or 5.6, depending on how it's rounded. Doesn't work that way...the two 10%s don't add together...they are computed individually: 2 hours ago, DuckyShot said: 3% for the camo. And they don't add 7.1 - 10% = 6.39 6.39 - 10% = 5.75 5.75 - 3% = 5.58 rounded up 5.6 in the client Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
185 [B_Y_F] sapient007 Members 617 posts 14,740 battles Report post #23 Posted December 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Pay_Your_Torpedo_Tax said: Yes. She's a very good stealthy DD. With guns that people underestimate to their own mistakes. Only if those guns can hit consistently...... In my experience, what people offent underestimate is how hard to kill zomby. Neustrashimy can trade two hp to one and still come out on top. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,152 [BONKS] Pay_Your_Torpedo_Tax Members 957 posts 3,794 battles Report post #24 Posted December 3, 2020 11 minutes ago, sapient007 said: Only if those guns can hit consistently...... In my experience, what people offent underestimate is how hard to kill zomby. Neustrashimy can trade two hp to one and still come out on top. Last time I checked I had a 50% Hit Rate with the guns. And they hit hard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
185 [B_Y_F] sapient007 Members 617 posts 14,740 battles Report post #25 Posted December 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Pay_Your_Torpedo_Tax said: Last time I checked I had a 50% Hit Rate with the guns. And they hit hard. Well, hitting BB and hitting DD are not the same thing but unfortunately under same category (Hit rate) in stat. I have 50 Hit rate too, but I won't trust them hitting wiggling DD. I'm sure you have better aim and it's good for you. XD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites