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41 minutes ago, CaptainTeddybear said:

 

The scale for plane HP does not equal the scale for ship hp. Not sure why this is all that noteworthy. For instance, ships arent to scale on the maps either but are in scale in relation to one another.

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Yes.

The real TB2D was an insane beast of an aircraft. CVs belong in WoWP off AI based carriers, where one could enjoy the plane more properly. A lone TB2D may have been truly untouchable attacking a Smith class DD, as well as most other surface vessels represented in the game.

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Would it seem right to you if all aircraft health and AA damage across the board were divided by 100? 37 HP skypirate, and flak doing 16 damage? Then the HP would be in scale to each other, but the mechanics would be identical. :cap_yes:

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It could be worse.  The FDR could fly around dropping Smiths on everyone.

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1 hour ago, CaptainTeddybear said:

USS Smith          https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Smith

7300 HP

700 tons

TB2D Skypirate          https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Franklin_D._Roosevelt

3710 HP

9 tons

 

 


 

 

 

 

Considering that the hit points between ships and planes are as comparable as those between WoWS ships and WoW Elven mages, looks ok to me.

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Since AA damage/plane HP and damage to ships/ship HP are so two totally unrelated systems, I fail to see the issue.

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26 minutes ago, Amenhir said:

It could be worse.  The FDR could fly around dropping Smiths on everyone.

Don't give them ideas.

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In fairness to the OP I don't think it is blatantly obvious without a bit of digging that they are two different systems. Man this place is a tough crowd sometimes :fish_viking:

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22 minutes ago, CapnCazuul said:

In fairness to the OP I don't think it is blatantly obvious without a bit of digging that they are two different systems. Man this place is a tough crowd sometimes :fish_viking:

You can't fire main battery guns at planes (although the AI can on dual purpose mains)& AA doesn't damage ships so it is kinda obvious.

Before hitting the link I didn't even realize he was talking about plane HP...I thought he was completely off his rocker & saying the FDR had 3700ish HPs & was 9 tons.

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10 minutes ago, IfYouSeeKhaos said:

You can't fire main battery guns at planes (although the AI can on dual purpose mains)& AA doesn't damage ships so it is kinda obvious.

Before hitting the link I didn't even realize he was talking about plane HP...I thought he was completely off his rocker & saying the FDR had 3700ish HPs & was 9 tons.

 

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1 hour ago, Skpstr said:

Considering that the hit points between ships and planes are as comparable as those between WoWS ships and WoW Elven mages, looks ok to me.

My Draenei Shaman has about the same health as a Tier VII DD.  Does that seem right or fair to you? :cap_haloween:

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2 hours ago, CaptainTeddybear said:

USS Smith          https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Smith

7300 HP

700 tons

TB2D Skypirate          https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Franklin_D._Roosevelt

3710 HP

9 tons

 

 


 

 

 

 

As much as I like to complain about CVs.  These two HP systems aren’t related . Though sure it can be a tad confusing on first glance. 

Edited by eviltane

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It’s a video game. You're trying to present some false real world equivalency with game stats because you’re an anti-CV troll. 

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1 hour ago, CapnCazuul said:

In fairness to the OP I don't think it is blatantly obvious without a bit of digging that they are two different systems. Man this place is a tough crowd sometimes :fish_viking:

Apparently this didn’t post. I’ll try again.

I’m aware they are completely separate, even for dual purpose guns. 

it’s equally obvious that either planes have too much health or AA does not do enough damage.

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20 minutes ago, CaptainTeddybear said:

If I remember correctly the long range AA of the Minotaur used to be over 1000.

Now it is 433.

And the AA/plane system is completely different. You are once again comparing two values that operate under completely different systems. It’s a completely meaningless comparison.

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30 minutes ago, CaptainTeddybear said:

it’s equally obvious that either planes have too much health or AA does not do enough damage.

Last time I played a CV I ended up with the choice of attacking Kansas or Massachusetts.  Due to positioning I picked the Kansas.  Every single one of my torpedo bombers were shot down before I reached torpedo range.  Full squadron, no flak bursts were involved.  Yes, I was in a Tier VI CV (Ark Royal), but it was late game against a 1/3rd health Kansas and not a single plane even reached torpedo drop range.

Exactly how much damage do you think AA should do?

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1 hour ago, Helstrem said:

My Draenei Shaman has about the same health as a Tier VII DD.  Does that seem right or fair to you? :cap_haloween:

Only if it's an EU DD, so they both have heals.....

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4 hours ago, CaptainTeddybear said:

USS Smith          https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Smith

7300 HP

700 tons

TB2D Skypirate          https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Franklin_D._Roosevelt

3710 HP

9 tons

1 hour ago, eviltane said:

These two HP systems aren’t related . Though sure it can be a tad confusing on first glance. 

I do, however want to know why the USS Erie(50 mm of belt armor)has half the HP of the Longjiang, despite the Longjiang having no armor whatsoever & being 3 times smaller.

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5 hours ago, CaptainTeddybear said:

USS Smith          https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Smith

7300 HP

700 tons

TB2D Skypirate          https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Franklin_D._Roosevelt

3710 HP

9 tons

 

 


 

 

 

 

Do you have FDR or are just complain for sake of complaining because bad CVs are ruining my fun rhetoric? :Smile_hiding: The reason why FDR planes have so much HP it's because FDR has many other drawbacks other CV don't :Smile_sceptic: So wargaming to balance FDR made it FDR planes slow to have an attack cooldown of almost 30 seconds and regen so stupidly slow to the point it makes Saipan regen fast in comparison :Smile_smile:  

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56 minutes ago, black_hull4 said:

I do, however want to know why the USS Erie(50 mm of belt armor)has half the HP of the Longjiang, despite the Longjiang having no armor whatsoever & being 3 times smaller.

You mean the Loyang?  Its T1 noob boat  vs T8 DD

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