Cmdr Skill Re-Bork: Shouldn't we be able to re-spec and reassign for FREE?

[ObnoxiousPotato]

Commander skills can make or break certain ships, so shouldn't WG allow players to re-spec and reassign commanders for free (for a limited time) after rolling out the planned commander skill changes?

[Avalon304]

Re-specs will be free, and retraining will be half off for the duration of patch 0.10.0, should the skill changes happen.

 

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With the release of update 0.10.0, for the duration of the update, you will be able to reset commander skills for free, and the retraining cost in doubloons will be discounted by 50%/

 

https://blog.worldofwarships.com/blog/104

 

[IfYouSeeKhaos]

56 minutes ago, Avalon304 said:

Re-specs will be free, and retraining will be half off for the duration of patch 0.10.0, should the skill changes happen.

 

 

https://blog.worldofwarships.com/blog/104

 

Don't think he needed that clarified.

The requirement to need to spend the 50% is kinda what prompted the thread in the 1st place.

[Avalon304]

1 hour ago, IfYouSeeKhaos said:

Don't think he needed that clarified.

The requirement to need to spend the 50% is kinda what prompted the thread in the 1st place.

 

His post literally asks:

 

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so shouldn't WG allow players to re-spec and reassign commanders for free (for a limited time) after rolling out the planned commander skill changes?

 

Re-specs (also known as resets) are going to be free. Reassignment (also called retraining) is half off. Given that one of the two things he was asking about is actually free, I would say he did need it clarified. And given that the one thing that actually matters in a skill rework is going to be free (the re-specs) Im not sure what the issue is. Why do people think the cost for retraining captains to new tech tree ships is going to ever be free?

 

Under the new system retraining captains is only going to be useful for shifting them between tech tree ships and re-specing is going to matter less since every captain is going to be able to get skills for all 4 classes of ship, meaning you'll be able to use one captain on any premium you want and have skills for it.

[Bortt]

It would make sense that re-assignments should be free considering the extent of the changes. Then again. WG stopped doing free resets for clan battles as if competitive play is the same as randoms.

[Ensign_Cthulhu]

47 minutes ago, Bortt said:

It would make sense that re-assignments should be free considering the extent of the changes.

Why? What's the logic in that?

[Bortt]

8 minutes ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

Why? What's the logic in that?

It’s a complete rework of all the skills. There’s special captains. Ships that needed high point captains that no longer need them or have the relavent skills. Ships that could take advantage of a higher point captain.Etc. 

[Rouxi]

12 minutes ago, Bortt said:

It’s a complete rework of all the skills. There’s special captains. Ships that needed high point captains that no longer need them or have the relavent skills. Ships that could take advantage of a higher point captain.Etc. 

I'm seeing a lot of coulds and maybes in there and not a lot of concrete reasons. Kind of sounds like you're just asking for free stuff for the sake of free stuff.

[Ensign_Cthulhu]

11 minutes ago, Bortt said:

Ships that needed high point captains that no longer need them

Does any particular ship come to mind here?

12 minutes ago, Bortt said:

Ships that could take advantage of a higher point captain.

Perhaps, but again, an example or two would be nice. 

For sure a free reassignment would be good to have - but you don't need to sell me on it; you need to sell WG. And that's a far harder ask.

Now when they finally bring in submarines... yeah, then I think a free respec and reassignment period is ABSOLUTELY in order (although given the way the new system will compartmentalize skills, free respec MAY be less relevant for those captains actually moving to subs).

[Tpaktop2_1]

I tried that here in a thread,  however the hard liners said no. Heavens forbid that WoWS players get a nice break in maintenance of ships and commanders. We are stronk.

[sapient007]

5 hours ago, Avalon304 said:

Re-specs will be free, and retraining will be half off for the duration of patch 0.10.0, should the skill changes happen

The half part only applies to Doubloons though. When were your last  time using doubloons to do this? And consider the rise basic cost of Doubloon retraining. This is almost a no deal by default.

I think that's why/what OP ask. 

[Avalon304]

2 minutes ago, sapient007 said:

The half part only applies to Doubloons though. When were your last  time using doubloons to do this? And consider the rise basic cost of Doubloon retraining. This is almost a no deal by default.

I think that's why/what OP ask. 

And the amount of XP needed to retrain a captain to a new ship is being dropped by half... so... at best this is saving me 500k credits for every retrain now... (because the credit option is going away since its just baked in tot he retraining process now). Im still better off after this change. Also the cost of retraining is going down from 750 doubloons to 500... so... even that option is cheaper now...

[WarStore]

5 hours ago, Avalon304 said:

Re-specs will be free, and retraining will be half off for the duration of patch 0.10.0, should the skill changes happen.

 

 

https://blog.worldofwarships.com/blog/104

 

Both of these should be free for the duration of the patch. But that is not enough. All of your commanders should automatically receive 2 levels.

How are people suppose to test their builds if they won't have all the skill points available?

[Rouxi]

4 minutes ago, WarStore said:

Both of these should be free for the duration of the patch. But that is not enough. All of your commanders should automatically receive 2 levels.

How are people suppose to test their builds if they won't have all the skill points available?

Same way they test builds now?

[WarStore]

6 minutes ago, Rouxi said:

Same way they test builds now?

Not sure what you mean.

[PotatoMD]

1 hour ago, Avalon304 said:

 Also the cost of retraining is going down from 750 doubloons to 500... so... even that option is cheaper now...

No, it's the other way around. 

[RainbowFartingUnicorn]

Unfortunately a single update is in no way long enough to figure out a total rework of the captain skills, so the smartest thing to do is likely to spend thirty minutes as soon as the update drops resetting every single one of your commanders' skill builds.

[Edgecase]

The unique commanders are supposed to have basically-the-same special skills, which are supposed to be similarly useful on the same ships. Not saying I'm confident WG is going to nail that, but the case for needing to arbitrarily move a specific commander around in order to adjust to the changes, given that you can already move his points around during that patch (by respeccing), doesn't seem very strong.

[IfYouSeeKhaos]

6 hours ago, Avalon304 said:

His post literally asks:

Re-specs (also known as resets) are going to be free.

Which is why he listed re-spec 1st & then said "and" after it.

When you place the proper emphasis on the word "and" it becomes pretty clear he understood that already.

If you just monotone read it I can see where you got confused though.

[IfYouSeeKhaos]

4 hours ago, Avalon304 said:

Also the cost of retraining is going down from 750 doubloons to 500... so... even that option is cheaper now...

 

3 hours ago, PotatoMD said:

No, it's the other way around. 

Actually they originally proposed raising it from 500 to 750 & then decided not to so it's just going to stay at 500.

As the price never went up to 750 it's neither "going down" nor going to be "cheaper now"... it's just going to stay the same as it is now...& has been for at least quite a few years (although it may have been a different price many years ago...not sure).

[IfYouSeeKhaos]

6 hours ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

Now when they finally bring in submarines... yeah, then I think a free respec and reassignment period is ABSOLUTELY in order (although given the way the new system will compartmentalize skills, free respec MAY be less relevant for those captains actually moving to subs).

Subs will get their own set of skills so no discounts/free time will be allowed at all when they drop.(edit: probably...no insider info here).

No sub skills will need to be respected as none will have been assigned previously...& retraining a 21 point commander to a brand new ship will not only never be a free option but probably won't even be a discounted option when subs drop (although there may be an upgrade discount...but I wouldn't count on that either).

Think the whole idea of giving them separate skills is so when subs get introduced there will be no need for a free respec...so don't count on 1 then...

This free respec will probably be the last free respec for a very long time.

 

 

[IfYouSeeKhaos]

10 hours ago, Bortt said:

It would make sense that re-assignments should be free considering the extent of the changes. Then again. WG stopped doing free resets for clan battles as if competitive play is the same as randoms.

Didn't you hear?

The reason free respecs are no longer needed after CBs is because CVs are balanced now.

[paradat]

13 hours ago, ObnoxiousPotato said:

Commander skills can make or break certain ships, so shouldn't WG allow players to re-spec and reassign commanders for free (for a limited time) after rolling out the planned commander skill changes?

Confident the respec will be free. I would love it if reassign would also be free +1

Do it WG